Hello all! This is a little thread for anything that has to do with the Vampire Chronicles, by Anne Rice...be it the books, movies, soundtrack, plagiarized versions of the series ((Twilight)), whatever!

Personally, I love these books! Interview was the first one, and that wasn't really that good, but as soon as I got into Lestat's writing, I fell in love with him....
I love all of the books and think that the movies are cheap knock-offs.

Currently, I am almost done with the Vampire Armand, and will be starting Merrik Soon....

Post your thoughts here! Slams on Twilight very Welcome!

So, you're claiming plagiarism because both series are about vampires? Granted, I've only read the first four books of the Vampire chronicles, but other than the vampires, I don't see a single similarity. The Twibooks are a [sic] love story, and it would be very VERY difficult to qualify the Vampire chronicles as even attempting at a love story. There's no cross species copulation, no dog boys...You have just as much validity to claim that Anne Rice plagiarized Bram Stoker.

I'm a huge Anne Rice fan, and I have to agree with Saisei. The only similarity is vampires.

I own every book in the 'Vampire Chronicals'. My favorite would probably be, Blood and Gold -Marius' story, or Blackwood Farm- Tarquin Blackwood's story.

Now by no means does that mean I dislike any of them. I love them all, even Pandora's story and Vittorio's, it's just those are the two that I continually return too.

Hmm, my ideas on plagiarism are more biased than actual plagiarism, I'm just saying that the lame story line is so cliched that it's not even funny.

Here are a few of the similarities that I've noticed between the two:

Vampire who's so ashamed of what he is that he can hardly stand it...Louis de Pointe de Lac vs Edward Cullen.

Large clan of Vampires that 'over-lords' the rest of them...The Children of Darkness vs the Voltori.

Large manor house in a cultured place in Italy...Marius' palazzo vs the Voltori's hide-out.

Vampire with a human lover that suddenly falls ill and therefore must be changed into a vampire....Marius and Armand vs Edward and Bella.

The cultured British gentleman that was turned into a vampire against his will....David Talbot vs Carlisle Cullen.

The evil vampire chick who seeks to destroy everything/one ((this is a stretch, I know))....Queen Akasha vs Victoria.

((Here's one more that I just noticed recently that isn't really relevant, I'd just thought I'd mention it because I hate Twilight))
The apple on the cover of the front books, that little tidbit of info is more or less reminiscent of the apple that's symbolism is used in the opening animation for Death Note.

And finally, I'm just going to throw out there that Twilight is one of the only series of books that has poorly written necrophilia and bestiality in the same novels...

You all may not agree with me, but the fact remains that the Twilight saga is a poorly written series of books that are both childish and demeaning.

Concerning Saisei's comment about Bram Stoker: it is true that Bram came up with the original Vampire, but Anne Rice was the first person to make the Vampires 'beautiful' instead of monstrous and horrid like thoe in Dracula and Salem's Lot. Also, saying that any vampire book is plagiarizing Bram Stoker is just like saying that any fantasy story is plagiarizing JRR Tolkien: all fantasy book have some resemblance to them, and some have a lot of resemblance to them, but that's an entirely different slice of cake.

but all of those siliaities arn't specific enough to be considered plagerism, or else I could think of 15 different 'Vampire' authors that have

Large clan of Vampires that 'over-lords' the rest of them

or

Vampire who's so ashamed of what he is that he can hardly stand it

Again though, an apple can't really be copy-righted without further placement, or else any were-wolf novel that has a full moon on the cover would be in trouble.

I fully agree that Twilight was a horribly written book series, that has no place in the mention of Vampire novels.

Oh and Bram didn't come up with the original story. It's actually rumoured (from pretty stable sources- I'll find them when I get the chance) that he stole the idea/plot from another author, and just managed to get his version published first.

Actually, Stoker's Dracula had a whole stable of seductive-y wives who tried to have their way with Harker and anybody else that came along. :)

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They were only monstrous against the backdrop of Victorian sensibility.

Saisei: that is true, but then again, Verona, Maruska, and Aleera were hardly human at all. They have more similarities to the vampires in Salem's Lot than they do in The Vampire Chronicles or any book series thereafter. You must be aware that the movie Vampires didn't really seem 'preternaturally beautiful' in all respects until the Anne Rice books were published. This speculation being stated only to the limits of my knowledge. The Brides of Dracula can only truly be likened unto the beauty that a tiger possesses right before it decides you look tasty enough to eat. Of course, the Vampires in Anne Rice's novels might be viewed this way as well...in fact, I am quite sure that Lestat had nightmares about him being the tiger that attacked David Talbot when he was still a young human. My point being that any of the Anne Rice characters are human enough to be considered something other than monsters by the reader, and the Brides of Dracula didn't really strike me as such.

Codette: Touche. I see your point, and it makes perfect sense to me. What I believe I was trying to say in my above posts would be that I despise Stephanie Meyers' series about Vampires, and I think that I was so hard on it because it was so awful compared to another book she had written__The Host__which had better developed ideas and characters than the Twilight Saga....plus I've been on the receiving end of plagiarism, so I'm a bit hard on anything that even remotely resembles it...