I hated it :x
But I know lots of people liked it, so discuss ^^

back when i was in high school i couldn't bring myself to read it. i hated reading back then but now that i don't have to write papers like crazy on book like this i love them. Pride and Prejudice is one of my favorite books of all times and it got me hooked on the works of Jane Austen. why don't you like it?

i think my favorite parts about the book are that Lizzie is such a strong character, that she doesn't take anything from anyone even in her social position but that she has to be true to her heart and to her mind as she is so much smarter then some of the characters.

i also love that Darcy has a totally change of character in his eyes and in the eyes of other i.e. Elizabeth. he starts out as this stuck up high class man that doesn't realize that there is good in everyone and that below the surface or family and appearances his no better then anyone else.

And finally i love how perseverance Darcy if. he's rejected by Elizabeth and still he loves her and he changes for her and he finally gets her because she realizes his good qualities.

I really liked Pride and Prejudice actually. Though some of her (Jane Austen) other books seemed to be similar in plot to it. That's really the only problem I have with her work.

I liked how Lizzie and Darcy end up together. But somehow, it kinda feels like a violation of character when they do, because Lizzie is such a strong woman and then she falls victim to love. ...I dunno, that's how I feel.

i agree with you on that, but i also think that Darcy has succumbed a lot to his heart as well and i really don't believe that if there was more into the story of Darcy and Elizabeth she wouldn't be the defenseless creature that literature of the time makes women out to be.

I dunno, it just seems to me like they lost some of themselves to become a couple and eventually marry. Yes, I know when one is in a relationship, then they have to make changes if their personalities don't mesh, but it seemed like it was a bit harsh. Because all of a sudden, Lizzie was some blissfully domestic girl, with not a single drop of her former fire and spirit.

I wrote an essay on this for my sophomore english class, just so you know. I had a lot o fun doing it, even though everybody pegged me for the militant feminazi for the rest of the year.

thats awesome. that had to have been an awesome paper. i love it when people do stuff like that. and i do agree with you on the subject. from your point of view i would have to agree with you. but i still think that to some extent Lizzie had Darcy whipped. she did become more pacifistic as the book progressed, but thank god she didn't just give in to mr collins.

You guys are missing the entire plot. Lizzie is just as vibrant and spirited as she was before she married Mr. Darcy. You say that she's fallen victim to love, as if it was a bad thing. Lizze and Mr. Darcy are so similar, and both so stubborn. They were perfect for each other, but both were too prideful to admit their affections for each other. It is Lizzy's fire that first attracted Mr.Darcy to her, because she's not like the other simpering girls that fall in love him just because he's rich. Falling in love does not make Lizzie any less of a character than she was, in fact, she's matured more by being more acceptable of other people.

I love that book! I don't think that Darcy is that bad of a bad guy, and I think that Darcy was Elizabeth's victim. Dary didn't really expect to fall in love for her anyway. xP

Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen is one of my favorite books. My English teacher tried to assign it to us but the kids in my class protested (it's too long for an Honors 10 class obviously... Stupid people).

Anyway, I don't think anyone was a victim of love in a bad way. How can love be a bad thing? Even if they did change their personality or their outlook slightly while falling in love, doesn't every union lose something at the same time as gaining? Just look at chemistry, to put together a formula, you have to lose something.

I agree with everything that Simplixity said; neither Lizzie nor Darcy change who they truly are, they just lose a bit of their stubbornness but when it comes to it, they're pretty much the same person as they were from the beginning. Darcy still can't stand Elizabeth's family and Lizzie still dislikes Mr. Bingley's sister because of her stuck up personality. If they really had changed, like you people are saying, wouldn't Darcy have accepted Lizzie's family for whom they were and not try to escape them and wouldn't Lizzie have tried to befriend Ms. Bingley? I know that it says that she became friendly with her, but she still didn't like her as much as she could have.

I loved the book. it was cute. and well writeen. Elizabeth was the only one able to break darcy odwon into a real human figure. he kept thining he was above everyone else from the beginning and after talking with elizabeth and falling head over heels from her learned that he was indeed just like everyone else. He did everything in his power to get to her after that. i thought ti was sweet. if i could have a guy do that for me i would in a heart beat.
oh wait. i have >.>
har har har. men are so cute sometimes.

Originally Posted by Tamerthanthou

Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen is one of my favorite books. My English teacher tried to assign it to us but the kids in my class protested (it's too long for an Honors 10 class obviously... Stupid people).

Anyway, I don't think anyone was a victim of love in a bad way. How can love be a bad thing? Even if they did change their personality or their outlook slightly while falling in love, doesn't every union lose something at the same time as gaining? Just look at chemistry, to put together a formula, you have to lose something.

I agree with everything that Simplixity said; neither Lizzie nor Darcy change who they truly are, they just lose a bit of their stubbornness but when it comes to it, they're pretty much the same person as they were from the beginning. Darcy still can't stand Elizabeth's family and Lizzie still dislikes Mr. Bingley's sister because of her stuck up personality. If they really had changed, like you people are saying, wouldn't Darcy have accepted Lizzie's family for whom they were and not try to escape them and wouldn't Lizzie have tried to befriend Ms. Bingley? I know that it says that she became friendly with her, but she still didn't like her as much as she could have.

Elizabeth adn Miss Bingley did become friends. His sister really liked her. and Darcey paid for Elizabeths sisters wedding to that one soldier guy even after he spread horrible rumors about him. I think that speaks enough for Darcys character. He did accept her family and she his.

Originally Posted by Chocobit Xyelle

I dunno, it just seems to me like they lost some of themselves to become a couple and eventually marry. Yes, I know when one is in a relationship, then they have to make changes if their personalities don't mesh, but it seemed like it was a bit harsh. Because all of a sudden, Lizzie was some blissfully domestic girl, with not a single drop of her former fire and spirit.

I wrote an essay on this for my sophomore english class, just so you know. I had a lot o fun doing it, even though everybody pegged me for the militant feminazi for the rest of the year.

were a family of feminazis <3

I only took to the book after watching the movie. Mr Darcy is <3

I don't see it as that they feel as victims of love, I think their love was a positive thing, which helped them overcome their stubboness and pride. So the change was for better.

i was actually forced to read the book before my friend would tell me that there was a mini series at the time. the movie makes me so mad though. so much is missing if you really want a good representation of Pride and Prejudice you have to see the A&E mini series staring Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehre. but nothing beets the book.

Originally Posted by Simplixity

You guys are missing the entire plot. Lizzie is just as vibrant and spirited as she was before she married Mr. Darcy. You say that she's fallen victim to love, as if it was a bad thing. Lizze and Mr. Darcy are so similar, and both so stubborn. They were perfect for each other, but both were too prideful to admit their affections for each other. It is Lizzy's fire that first attracted Mr.Darcy to her, because she's not like the other simpering girls that fall in love him just because he's rich. Falling in love does not make Lizzie any less of a character than she was, in fact, she's matured more by being more acceptable of other people.

i think you are missing the point that she was making, as i was in the beginning as well. i believed the same as you did because that is how i interpreted the book in the first place but after reading it a few times and seeing different portrayals of the story everyone is going to interpret it differently. I personally believe that Darcy and Elizabeth are the best example of soul mates that anyone will ever find in literature because they are so alike but they are from different back grounds and sometimes, and i understand where this would come up, but Elizabeth does seem to be more pacified when she realizes just the position her family is in because of Lidia and because she is falling in love with Darcy. i don't necessarily think she gives up anything because she loves Darcy but i do see a change in the character as the story progresses and it does seem like she falls into a pacifistic kinda stereotypical woman roll, at least for that time period in literature. she starts out as such a no nonsense kind of character not willing to change anything or be forced into love but as she falls in love she does change and i think that is the point, aside from the fact that everyone is going to interpret literature differently and only if Jane Austen was alive and telling us, "no this is what i mean when this happens," doesn't make any one of us right or wrong or missing the boat or not missing the boat.

I read the younger children's version of the book, so a lot of lines were REALLY corny to me XD But I did love it.

I think Austen is very good at building and presenting characters. Her dialog is boring and inconsequential to us but if one was reading it from the time period, they would comment just how well Austen captures the essence of real people and shows them through a magnifying glass, presenting the reader with their own flaws and strengths.

angel_of_joy:: i really dont know why i dont like it. i understood the humor in it, but i really didnt think it was funny. i thought it was dry and boring XD and nothing really happens in the whole damn book until the end. i could sum it up in 3 sentences. wasnt my type of book.

heheh i see a alot of pride and prejudice lovers here :3 good. it will create some discussion!

Originally Posted by melody xyelle

Elizabeth adn Miss Bingley did become friends. His sister really liked her. and Darcey paid for Elizabeths sisters wedding to that one soldier guy even after he spread horrible rumors about him. I think that speaks enough for Darcys character. He did accept her family and she his.

Elizabeth may have befriended Miss Bingley, but Darcy says outright that he didn't pay for Elizabeth's sister's wedding because of the family but rather he did it for Elizabeth. Personally, I think he's saying there that the Bennett family could be subjected to scandal for all he cared if not for Elizabeth being a Bennett.

Originally Posted by Enniel

angel_of_joy:: i really dont know why i dont like it. i understood the humor in it, but i really didnt think it was funny. i thought it was dry and boring XD and nothing really happens in the whole damn book until the end. i could sum it up in 3 sentences. wasnt my type of book.

heheh i see a alot of pride and prejudice lovers here :3 good. it will create some discussion!

i am sad that you don't like it but not everyone is going to like it! i can understand why some people would find it dry because its so into that time period of literature.

yeah :3 its not my favorite time and place to read about.

Originally Posted by melody xyelle

Elizabeth adn Miss Bingley did become friends. His sister really liked her. and Darcey paid for Elizabeths sisters wedding to that one soldier guy even after he spread horrible rumors about him. I think that speaks enough for Darcys character. He did accept her family and she his.

Are you kidding me? Lizzy could tolerate Miss Bingley. Even Jane, who never says one bad thing about another person, dislikes Miss Bingley. Also, Mr. Darcy only saved Lydia's wedding for Lizzy's sake. Mr. Darcy thinks that Lizzy's mother and all of her sisters not including Jane are silly and ditzy.

What an awful expression! Victim to love indeed. Love is wonderful. One cannot fall victim to it.

MOVING ON...I absolutely love Pride & Prejudice. Colin Firth is an absolutely shmexiful Darcy. :squees then collects herself: I first saw it in play form. I absolutely LOVED it then, so it is good I saw that first because I would have hated it had I already read the book.

I think that it is important to understand Jane Austen's life to understand her books. I'm not saying it's a necessity by any means, but it does help make things more clear. They say people write what they know and if you look at her work, they all have such evident parallels to her life.

Originally Posted by raiawyn

What an awful expression! Victim to love indeed. Love is wonderful. One cannot fall victim to it.

MOVING ON...I absolutely love Pride & Prejudice. Colin Firth is an absolutely shmexiful Darcy. :squees then collects herself: I first saw it in play form. I absolutely LOVED it then, so it is good I saw that first because I would have hated it had I already read the book.

I think that it is important to understand Jane Austen's life to understand her books. I'm not saying it's a necessity by any means, but it does help make things more clear. They say people write what they know and if you look at her work, they all have such evident parallels to her life.

i have to completely agree with you on the colin firth comment. he was the best Darcy and after watching the mini series i hated the new movie. it was just all wrong in my mind.

and i also agree with you on the understanding Jane Austen's life. it does help a lot and i think thats why a lot of her plots are so similar. because she was so sheltered in her life and what she knew as many women were then.

I really liked the movie, and have been obsessing over it lately.