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Since there is no discussion about Pro-Wrestling the the Great American Past-Time of Distraction.

I enjoy Pro-Wrestling, I know it's fake but I just enjoy the way it has evolved since the days of Hulkamania. Back then you could tell it was fake, but now we got talented performers who put on a lot of good matches. Be it CM Punk with his Straight Edge Society preaching at people about living a cleaner life or John Morrison with his flashy moves, like his Strarship Pain finisher.

I do hold hopes that within the next year or so we will get some new blood within the main event of the WWE. TNA is working on it, with the push of Elijah Burke now known as The Pope D'Angelo Dinero, and possibly a few more in the future. WWE needs to really do something more. A lot of people may be fine with Cena, Triple H, Orton constantly being in the main event, but man it's gotten boring.

Who knows whats going to happen in the WWE after Wrestlemania this year so I guess I'll have to wait and see. But feel free to discuss anything Pro-Wrestling.

WWE has been very boring lately. Although since the return of Edge things have gotten a little more worth watching. I've started watching TNA as well, & they put on a hell of a show.

TNA has only stepped their game up once they relegated the geriatric brigade to non main event duties. WWE on the other hand needs to bring back the cruiserweight title so guys like Evan Bourne can actually be used right. I have hopes that within the next few years Morrison and Punk will become full time main event performers. Because if you haven't seen the two make the best rivals. Almost HBK Vs Hart level.

John Morrison is one of the best young talents in WWE. I hope he gains a world title soon, he really does deserve it.

I enjoyed the feud with Punk back in 2007. But I loooooooooove the Straight Edge Society angle right now! ITS FREAKING AWESOME. Punk comes out, he's serious, he insults the audience for drinking, or accuses them of taking drugs, and it gets a reaction that Orton wishes he could get. SES are the new DX.

I actually hate the straight edge society. I think it's a pathetic attempt to make the show more kid friendly. I never liked CM Punk, & I think it's really strange for them to suddenly turn a retarded man (Festus) into a straight-edge, biker wannabe. I like Serena, I would like to see her get some ring time. Because obviously she isn't just a random girl from the crowd, she's a diva.

Not just a diva, a female wrestler who has trained for it. She studied on Dr. Death for crying out loud! Have her acquire the Womens title by having an angle where they bring up McRibs and her diet pill abuse and the fact she can't seem to stay healthy.

It really isn't an attempt to be kid friendly. Punk IS Straight Edge, and he's used the "Better than You" tag line since Ring of Honor. The repackaging of Festus as Luke Gallows has been a god send, Luke is a good wrestler the Festus gimmick was a stupid idea to begin with. I only hate Punk when he doesn't give it his best effort like Carlito, but lately he has been bringing a lot to the ring.

I really think creative needs to stop pushing McCool. Even when I was being a mark and getting back into wrestling, I just didn't like her, I was actually behind Maryse during their feud. Why she gets her push? She's dating Undertaker. The Divas division is a joke. You got talented women like Katie Lea (my favorite), Mickie James, Beth Phoenix, Serena, Melina, Gail Kim, Maryse, and Jillian. But they push the models like Kelly Kelly or the Bella Twins, girls with utterly NO talent.

Most of the divas are completely untalented. They're just there to give you something to look at for 5 minutes, or so you can take a bathroom break. None of them would stand a chance against a TNA knockout. Knockouts are actually strong atheletic women. Most of the ARE pretty, but thats not the only reason they're there, like it is for the divas.
I agree that the idea of Festus was stupid, but sending him back out as a normal wrestler was also stupid. I don't think many people will forget that he was just some retard time filler.

Who are your favorite wrestlers?

Well they explained that Luke was enabled and Punk cleaned him up. Punk used to be in one of Raven's cults in ROH, and thats where the SES comes from.

Victoria was a Diva if you didn't know, she left the E after being forced to job to the Brie Bella so often.

I like John Morrison, CM Punk, The Miz, and Kofi Kingston. These four could make up the top tier of the WWE. If they give that place to Ted or Cody I will switch to TNA. Ted is easily forgetable if not for him being the son of the Million Dollar Man. That is all he has!

Yeah I knew about Victoria being Tara now. I think maybe Beth Phoenix is the only current Diva that might be able to fight wit the Knockouts. I pretty much stopped watching WWE when Jeff Hardy left. He's my favorite wrestler. I'm not sure when or where he's going to come back to. He made a short apperance on TNA in January, & posted a video on YouTube asking fans if he should go to TNA or WWE. Personally I don't really care either way. He's great. TNA would be a bit better for him, because it's so much more extreme and bloody than WWE. WWE has gone soft really.

I don't like any of the Divas, they're a waste of broadcast time. I don't mind knockouts but I don't have a favorite yet.

How can you hate Katie Lea?! She's hot and and she was the Queen of Chaos, she is probably the most qualified of the divas, next to Serena and Beth.

Jeff I feel is overrated. Matt is just as good if not better but never really got the push. All because he can't do flips. And Jeff should stay away from TNA, just like WCW they don't take care of employees, so drug abuse gets worse there. And given Jeff's drug of choice that is a bad idea. I would like for Jeff to get clean before he comes back to the WWE, after he gets back in Vince's good graces. Vince was angry as hell when he saw Jeff on TNA.

The problem that need remedied right now in the WWE is the talent. Triple H needs to stop trying to win as many titles as Flair, no matter what we will remember him for DX. Cena needs to stop being this guy who overcomes the odds and maybe step away from world titles so we can get some fresh air. And maybe just maybe, they could use royal rumble to elevate people instead of using it as an excuse to have people feud. Orton Vs. Trips last year, and Edge Vs. Jericho this year. And did Batista need to have a title for Cena to face him at Wrestlemania? It seems like such a wasted chance.

I've never seen Katie Lea wrestle before. I don't watch ECW (when it was actually still on) because it isn't broadcasted in Canada until 12midnight on Fridays. Most of the wrestlers on ECW were a waste of time anyways. The only great one they had was Christian, & I don't even understand why he was on ECW.
I don't really worry much about Jeff's drug problems, & I don't think it's right that everyone in the industry thinks it's such a big deal. Drugs are not always bad, but they are alway given bad hype about them. I think if he's happy on drugs, & he likes it, he should be allowed to do them.
I often call TNA "Crackhead Wrestling" because that's where the wrestlers seem to go when they get into hard drugs. Or when they start looking like homeless men, like Kurt Angle.

Jeff's drug of choice if cocaine. That's a bad choice. And I don't want him to die like Umaga. And HOW DARE YOU!!! Vance Archer is awesome! He stares at the camera like a sadist and I love it! A lot of talent has come through ECW during its rebirth. Morrison, Punk, Kofi, Knox, Bourne, Barretta and Croft, Yoshi Tatsu, and a few others. It's flaw was they didn't treat ECW like an equal brand. And Christian was on there to try and bring up the ratings and Vince was angry at him for going to the competition to get a main event run. Morrison is even considering jumping ship if he doesn't get a world title run by the time his contract expires, or so it has been rumored.

I'm aware that he enjoys cocaine, but there is many worse drugs he could be using.
I believe the rebirth of ECW was a complete failure. I'm very glad it has ended. Now hopefully some of their stars will fall off the planet, & will never be heard of them again. The ones who are worth watching will move on to Raw or Smackdown.

I dunno I thought ECW was a good test system. NXT will continue the process of testing to see if the guys will catch on. Since a lot of the talents in FCW are hardly recognizable. Bryan Danielson and Kaval are about the only two they have coming up that stand out as Indie sensations. Most are nobodies that Laurinaitis signed because they look good.

I have no idea who any of the NXT people are. I haven't heard of any of them. I likely won't be watching NXT because it likely won't be broadcasted in Canada. Not in a reasonable time-slot at least.

Youtube.

Bryan Danielson is considered the best of the new generation. ROH, Dragon Gate, and countless indie promotions had a part in his reputation. Trained by HBK and Regal he is a popular upcomer.

Kaval AKA Low-Ki is a high flier who can hit a double foot stomp from the Tree of Woe position. He isn't on NXT but youtube him, he had a FCW match with Bryan Danielson a few weeks ago.

Yeahh, I'll check them out for sure. Thanks.

Daniel Bryan AKA Bryan Danielson (I wish I was making that up), is probably one of the best in the business currently. Though when he was in Ring of Honor mic work wasn't important.

Yeah I think WWE worries about mic work a lot more than most wrestling associations. That's one of the reasons I love it though. They put on a good show.

It is. Problem is, they can't make a decent face wrestler anymore without going the John Cena boyscout route. Which drives me crazy. John Morrison would be a lot better on the mic if he was insulting the heels hes up against more, with some dirt sheet style humor. I loved the episode where he had the coffee and issued the apology to Dreamer.

"We would like to apologize to Tommy Dreamer for calling him a fat whale. You aren't a fat whale, more like a fat porpoise or a fat manatee."

In truth that is what the attitude era had to offer. Good guys weren't expected to be boy scouts they could be a little edgy. No one wants a face thats acts like Captain America. Part of why Hardy is arguably more popular than Cena is the fact he was flawed he made mistakes, Cena you just get this feeling he got straight a's, always did his homework, always did the chores, and always did as he was told. No one likes perfect people, in fact it makes us hateful.

I am realllly tired of John Cena. It's always the same thing with him. I'd like to see him put out for a few months. He'd still come back as a face. I don't think he would be able to play the bad-guy role. It just wouldn't suit him. I like some superstars who can pull off both face & heel easily. Like Edge, Batista, and a few others.

John Cena wants to go heel but Vince wont let it happen. He wants his money. Cena has brought a lot of bad things in his era, the spinner belt being the worst. We need Punk to win the wwe title and make it stand for something.

I think CM Punk is just a fad. I hope he doesn't stick around too long. He's my least favorite superstar.

He is far from a fad. He is an Indie legend. He has a cult following he is staying for a long time.

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