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Who here knows the festivities of saturnus?

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Ahhh...Saturnus...It rings a bell...but I have no idea what it is about. I would love it if someone here did know and we can like come to understand it better...^_^

Are you perhaps referring to Saturnalia?

That's just what I was wondering Kyou.

I have no idea what that is. x.x

I can't say I have heard of it.

i don`t know.
What is it?

I have never heard of it either.

I heard it refrenced in an episode of Boondocks as a possible pagan origin of Christmas but thats all I know.

hmm Ive never heard of it . what is it?

No I've never heard of it =x

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Originally Posted by Lady Luck Infinity (Post 1765892515)

I heard it refrenced in an episode of Boondocks as a possible pagan origin of Christmas but thats all I know.

Well, I don't know if this is fake or not, but Christmas IS originally a pagan holiday. Nothing about Christmas trees has anything to do with Christianity and the Christians who first started this holiday were all Romans and Romans had a god named Saturn, so it wouldn't be surprising if this was the true origins of it.

I know many Christians who refuse to celebrate Christmas because of the original pagan origins of it.

Does is have something to do with saturn?

And glorious wikipedia comes to the rescue!

Quote:

"Saturnus may refer to:

* Saturn (mythology), a Roman god whose Latin name was Saturnus
* Saturnus (band), a band from Denmark
* Saturnus (butterfly), a genus of butterflies in the grass skipper family"

I'm thinking the first one.

And for Saturnalia's relation to Christmas
Wonderful Wikipedia once more!

Quote:

There is no evidence scripturally or secularly that early Christians in the first century commemorated the birth of Jesus Christ. In fact, in keeping with early Jewish law and tradition, it is likely that birthdays were not commemorated at all. According to The World Book Encyclopedia: "early Christians considered the celebration of anyone's birth to be a pagan custom." (Vol. 3, page 416) Rather than commemorating his birth, the only command Jesus gave concerning any sort of commemoration of his life actually had only to do with his death (Luke 22:19). It was not until several hundred years after the death of Jesus Christ that the first instances of the celebration of Christmas begin to appear in the historical record. According to the new Encyclopedia Britannica, some who later claimed to be Christian likely "wished the date to coincide with the pagan Roman festival marking the 'birthday of the unconquered sun'." The festival was celebrated with similar customs (gift giving, feasting) that are done to celebrate Christmas today.

I think that's really interesting. And no, I had never heard of it either until you brought it up. I have heard of Christians refusing to celebrate Easter because of the realtion to Ishtar, but not Christmas.

Oh, and if you wanna learn more, here are the links, Saturnalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Saturnalia - Celebrate the Saturnalia
Oh, and the last funny thing I found whilst searching, "For how many years shall this festival abide! Never shall age destroy so holy a day! While the hills of Latium remain and father Tiber, while thy Rome stands and the Capitol thou hast restored to the world, it shall continue."
- Saturnalia" That's from about.com

Yeah... It's really well remembered isn't it?

Like what x-mas was before it was x-mas, with a fool and stuff?

Seems so. I think it sounds like a lot of fun. The article also mentioned masters and servants switching places!

well I have never heard of it untill now, and it sounds interesting xD

That sounds like Boxing Day I believe.

A lot of the Christian Holidays were originally pagan. Like Halloween, which was originally Beltane. The masks were meant to scare away evil spirits. And there was no candy involved.

Saturnalia is the celebration of the Winter Solstice, I think. That might be separate though?

How interesting, I had never heard of Saturnus before this. Yes it was indeed well remembered =_=;; Lucky we have wikipedia to remember for us!

Pssh.

I've never heard of it before today! D :
Sounds kinda interesting all the same.
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Ancient druids used to also celebrate the winter solstice. They didn't have Saturn as a god. Just randomly throwing that fact out there.

Huh... Interesting. Haven't heard of it, but interested in learning about it.

Neat info :) Most pagan holidays involved sacrifices, feasting, and more physical activities. So Christmas during Roman times among different cult groups would not have been places for children and modest ladies :)