Trust me, I can't draw, either. I am just learning about the basic elements of composition in my 2D design class and so far all tha tI have had to do is cut out paper and arrange it in pleasing and organized manner, but the other class I have is ceramics.

I love ceramics. I was able to take a single pottery class really inexpensively during one summer when I was much, much younger and since then I've been stuck on pottery and ceramics. Unfortunately it's easier and cheaper to buy a pack of pencils and a notebook in comparison to a kiln and materials for working with ceramics/pottery. Ultimately that's what I stuck with the written and spoken word.

I have a twisted relationship with giving speeches.

I'm less keen on the current Brujah Primogen being forcibly removed by the combined powers of Abbadon, William and Cardea because William and Cardea are not keen on that idea themselves.

By forcibly, i don't necessarily mean by force of arms. He could be blackmailed or otherwise convinced that it would be in his best interests to step down and maybe go far, far away. Ideas for that? Is this acceptable? (also, what's with your pacifist vamps? This concept baffles me.)

My vamps are not pacifist - they're careful.

What do you think about the Prince sending the current Brujah Primogen to take care of the Gehenna cult and the cultist taking the Primogen out? That would leave the way open for Abbadon and for Cardea and William to pull ties to maneuver him into a seat of power.

Rebooting.

Mmkay to reboot.

I'm not sure. With Abbadon himself being interested in Cainite Lore and the Occult, how should he react when he is then asked to pick up where the previous primogen left off? And would Cardea/Abbadon/William be the ones to tip off the Noddist cult? It would make sense for the Prince to want the cult exterminated, but I am just concerned about that duty then falling to Abbadon. Thoughts?

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Also, promised linky goodness: Path of Power and the Inner Voice

Is it some conviction of Abbadon's to evangelize Noddist or Kindred lore?

If the trio tipped off the clan and the clan took out the Brujah Primogen, who I am sure would come with back up, and in the ensuing battle lost most of the members of the cult.. would it be a big deal for Abbadon to finish off the cult and thus silence any potential blackmailers who might otherwise alert the Prince that they had been tipped off?

Thanks for the link. *clicks*

That's a good point. If they tipped off the cultists to ensure that the primogen was destroyed, it would be in their best interests to eliminate any witnesses (and perhaps confiscate some of their noddist reading materials). So long as Abbadon had sufficient support (and a good idea of how many of the cultists remained) it may or may not be all that difficult. Also, could there bea potential reason for the trio to want to brujah primogen out of the picture apart from Abbadon wanting his seat on the council? WIth this path I am considering, it requires that he respect those more powerful than himself--unless he has a reason not to.

On a side note, what are some potential terms of endearment Abbadon might have for William regarding their age and generation gap? Things that are common for other vampires, that is. My mind is a blank and I haven't read enough of the actual writing to know these things.

Abbadon has the merit of bullyboy, correct? He could request to be entrusted with the removal and/or destruction of the Noddist lore the cult has. Cardea and William could sort through and take whatever the trio doesn't have covered between the three of them.

We'll have to chart this out on paper so I'm sure of what's going on.

I'm.. not sure what you're asking for. Explain? IRL.

Haha yes, pencil and paper are much, much cheaper than clay or what have you. Sculpey and that are easier to do but not as powerful... ah, well. C'est la vie.

Indeed.

Wow, a one word post from you. That's the first I've seen XD.

It's really bothersome that finances decide so readily what I can and cannot have an interest in and participate in. :(

This timer is really useful.

Yeah, I know what you mean. That's why I kind of hate money :lol:.

Monetary systems are a bother. I'm not suggesting we revert to an agrarian system (because that would provide us with even fewer recreational option) but... I guess i just can't wait for postmodernism to take hold in our country. I'll be long dead by then, but I would love to know that it will happen.

Yeah, see I just don't know what you are talking about there XD. I like the idea of living in a small but creatively rich community relying on and respecting the world around me...

Postmoderism is kind of hard to explain succinctly. XD One postmodern ideal is euqitability. No one has to work for money, they just build their house, cultivate their garden, and maybe trade favors with those around them--but the emphasis is on survival, not excess.

my friend is doing post modernism for some english thing.
it's kind of weird, some of the stuff he tells us.
And....I'm not really here.

Alright! At some point tonight I will have both my milestones and the game outline posted to my Menewshan blog, C.Z.. It's not terribly easy for me to concentrate right now thus I make no promises of when these things shall be done tonight. Just.. tonight.

Bah, monetary system.

Yeah that is kind of how it is working in my head XD.

That is one of many postmodern ideas. Feminism is another. These are all pretty representative of the Marxist ideaology.

Only the rich have time to excel in any thing.

I am thrilled by the amount of gold I've been able to earn over the last couple of days. It's too bad we're going to be out of town tomorrow with limited internet access.

Haha yeah, oh well, maybe you can excel in crafting for a living :P.

I am definitely a feminist...


Aw, oh wel, though, cause the gold will still be there when you come back.


And wow, your post right there... well, it amuses me.

My mother could use her crafting skills to pay the bills if she buckled down and took it seriously but I'm not so highly skilled. I'd also have a very niche customer base if I were to try that.

Hah, that I would make a somewhat snide remark about the rich and in the same post chortle over my gold count? Yeah, it amuses me too. :XD

Playground is right, SL. The gold will still be there (and you'll probably spend all your time making me watch you have fun on the computer anwyay :P ). Speaking of the rich... XD

I'm glad to hear that you're a feminist, Playground.

lmao sorry that feminist thing was kind of out of nowhere (well I mean it was in reply to something earlier but I didn't really elaborate on it or anything) XD.

And yes, yes that is what was amusing.

But that is the fun part of life. Being able to laugh at yourself for being... contradictory.