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Kenora 02-12-2010 05:33 PM
Sigh. No bodies business but my own.
 
Sooo... Who here also thinks that Valentines is a horrible holiday for lovers?

I mean Saint valentine was murdered horribly. Soooo.. Who feels the love?

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St Valentine was persecuted as a Christian and interrogated by Roman Emperor Claudius II in person. Claudius was impressed by Valentine and had a discussion with him, attempting to get him to convert to Roman paganism in order to save his life. Valentine refused and tried to convert Claudius to Christianity instead. Because of this, he was executed. Before his execution, he is reported to have performed a miracle by healing the blind daughter of his jailer.

Jesmond 02-12-2010 05:43 PM
Well, I found this part rather sweet.
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
The Emperor supposedly did this to grow his army, believing that married men did not make for good soldiers. The priest Valentine, however, secretly performed marriage ceremonies for young men. When Claudius found out about this, he had Valentine arrested and thrown in jail. In an embellishment to The Golden Legend provided by American Greetings, Inc. to History.com and widely repeated, on the evening before Valentine was to be executed, he wrote the first "valentine" himself, addressed to a young girl variously identified as his beloved,[17] as the jailer's daughter whom he had befriended and healed,[18] or both. It was a note that read "From your Valentine."
For the times. ;)

Skaudie 02-12-2010 05:47 PM
Despite the origins of the holiday, I think that it's a good idea to take the opportunity to express love for each other. It's kind of like a slap in the face to all those cruel, mean-hearted actions that the human race performs without batting an eye.
Take that, Evil! Ha!

Kenora 02-12-2010 05:49 PM
Really though. Violent deaths for being cristian isnt my idea of romantic.

but do we NEED a single day to be romantic and gooey? Isn't that what relationships should be about? even if life gets in the way sometimes?

Jesmond 02-12-2010 05:55 PM
Relationships are about being and connecting with your partner, not about being romantic. A lot of people don't do romantic anyway, or at least not easily.

I don't see what's bad about having a day that encourages couples (and SINGLES as well; show some love to those you have it for!) to take a break from life and just be with their mate. Life DOES get in the way. It's not an excuse to only do those sort of things on that day, but even so, if someone only does things with their lover on V-day, it's not the day's fault.
It's not like it's a bad thing.

Skaudie 02-12-2010 05:59 PM
It depends on your relationship status. Single people hate the gooey-ness of Valentines day because it's not pleasant to watch. It's about jealousy, really, and I don't blame them. I used to think that way too. However, in reality, it's not gooey that we're going after. For married couples, Women want to feel special, like princesses, and men want to get laid. Farther beyond that, it is about deepening one's relationship with your partner by sharing a special experience together. Regardless, it's about reinforcing love.

MayLily 02-12-2010 06:02 PM
Sure we don't NEED Valentines day, but could the same not be said for pretty much all holidays? I'm not a huge fan myself but I'm not fussed. I think people generally need occasions to remind themselves of things. Or even just break up the pattern of everyday life. *shrugs* Doesn't really matter if you're romantic or not.

Kenora 02-12-2010 06:11 PM
I'm just saying, isnt it a better idea to make a holiday that doesn't have any connotation with violent death of an innocent man, The day you do the gooey romantic stuffs? I mean.

LittleFiend 02-12-2010 06:13 PM
Really though if you look at the history of nearly ALL holidays there is going to be something unpleasant about them. Just focus on what it has transformed into.

MayLily 02-12-2010 06:16 PM
I agree with Little. I suppose the origin of a lot of holidays don't seem to matter so much anymore. Just that it's a day to celebrate something or the other in life. Besides, I think the holiday is a wonderful way to remember Valentine, I don't think he'd want to be remembered for his death, rather what he thought of life.

Sammi 02-12-2010 06:18 PM
It's true that it had kind of a gruesome history and that it's just been transformed into a money holiday for the greeting card industry, but what it stands for now is nice - a day dedicated to letting your loved ones know how special they are to you. :yes:

Kenora 02-12-2010 06:35 PM
Meh. I still think that its a bit strange. I just want to point it out here.

Lacquer 02-12-2010 06:35 PM
I do agree with the gruesome start. St Paddie's Day is like that too. And as far as I know, my fiance and I don't really celebrate V-day. Mostly cause we're prone to do cute-weird things all year long. Like the adorable butterfly I gave him that I won from a crane machine. XD He's got two plushies from me so far.

Kenora 02-12-2010 06:35 PM
^Thats what it SHOULD be like.

akinmytua 02-17-2010 02:47 PM
Sometimes holidays are a nice way to break up the monotony of the year. I really didn't do much for V-day... I think the holiday is a nice idea, even if it has a bloody past.

Runes 02-17-2010 02:51 PM
Valentines in the Christian theme is love for all. He healed the jailer's daughter, which, shows love for all. In Europe, it was noticed that birds pair around the middle of Feb and thus the infamous 'Valentine' was created, since men started to write love letters to women they wished to marry on this day.

Huffie 02-17-2010 03:07 PM
Well just because people have set aside one day especially to celebrate love and for couples to have a romantic day doesn't mean they're implying it should be the only day you can be romantic, I mean, what about mothers'/fathers' day? They're not meaning you to take it that you should only ever treat your parents nicely only on those days, it's just a little celebration. Nobody seems to complain about that, why about Valentines? D:


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