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Kah Hilzin-Ec 04-20-2009 11:37 PM

I'll send you a mission, to keep you busy. Make a list of the things that make you feel better. It doesn't matter if it's taking towels out of the drying machine and hugging them [*guilty*] or finding animals randomly [*again guilty*], as long as it has at least 5 things.

Also, if you feel like something is going worse, put some classical music and think about it. Is there something in particular that's triggering this feeling? Something you did, or something you didn't? To what degree are you feeling bad?

I hope this helps :) I'll be sending good vibes your way ;)

miss serene 04-21-2009 12:17 AM

I've been where you are, and my best suggestion is to go to a doctor and ask for help.

I'm almost done my psych degree, and have been there as well, so if you want to chat, by all means pm me.

You don't have to be alone, and people care, so don't be afraid to reach out.

Nambs 04-21-2009 07:34 PM

What can't you cope with? What's so terrible about your life? And more importantly,

Are you still in highschool?

HIM_ROCK 04-21-2009 08:15 PM

I've tried going to the doctors for help before and all they did was send to me see a counseller which didn't help.
Last time I ended up going to see a therapist because the doctor decided it was best to treat my anxiety.

I'm out of school compleatly and I'm not condsidering any further education, not after everything I was put though.

I don't think I'm ever going to get any help.

Nambs 04-21-2009 08:39 PM

What, may I ask, were you put through?

I'm not trying to sound harsh, but I'm not going to baaaaaw for someone who's upset about their parents acting like parents. But if you have some real problems, I'll know I'm not wasting my time on a whining teenager, and will be more than happy to ofer my ear and my heart for your assistance.

HIM_ROCK 04-21-2009 09:23 PM

I was bullied on and off constantly. In final year of school I stopped going because it just went way passed being bullying or harrasment and the school wasn't doing anything about it.

Nambs 04-21-2009 09:30 PM

In defense of the school, there isn't much they CAN do.

Is this still happening now that you've graduated? If not, I think you need to realize that it's over. You're free to live your life now.

Basically get over it.

If that sounds harsh, then I'm sorry. But there are worse things that can happen to you. And I say that as a pretty severe bully victim myself, so I know where you're coming from.

HIM_ROCK 04-21-2009 09:43 PM

It still goes on.

Nambs 04-21-2009 10:52 PM

If it's still going on, and you're of age (which I'm assuming you are because you said you're out of school) then you can probably press charges, get a restraining order, or whatever for the person causing your distress.

Bisque 04-22-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nambs (Post 1764376288)
If it's still going on, and you're of age (which I'm assuming you are because you said you're out of school) then you can probably press charges, get a restraining order, or whatever for the person causing your distress.


bullying is not always something one can 'press charges' on.

You obviously have not had real experiences with people in your life that make it their amusing joy to emotionally harass you.

I havnt read back through the thread so I don't know what all has been talked about, but I know that you cant just simply 'get over' some things in life.

I'm 23 and never graduated b/c of social anxiety disorders. I can't work out of home b/c of Panic attacks and making myself physically ill.

If I could just 'get over' it I certainly would and I'm sure HIM would too. Do you think living like this is pleasant?

Nambs 04-22-2009 06:51 PM

By get over it, I don't mean "just force yourself to become a normal, emotionally unscarred, functioning member of society" I mean to move on. Yes, something like that is going to affect you forever. And don't assume that I never had any experiences with bullying. I still have anxiety attacks just like you're describing. But the difference between me and you is that I'm working to help myself get past it. For me, the bullying has ended, and it's a struggle every day to bring myself out of my shell, and force myself to be vulnerable. Make friends, trust people, speak out when something is unfair. Because now, I can do soemthing about it when a person takes advantage of me.

It's up to you to stop being the victim. It's hard, but it's not impossible.

And yes, you CAN press charges when someone is harrassing you. You can sue them for severe enough emotional distress, especially if the person has caused you to become depressed to the point of needed drugs. At the very least, you can get a restraining order.

Cases of stalking are harder to get rid of than cases of harrassment.

Izumi 04-22-2009 07:43 PM

I think this sounds like it is an internal struggle with the self, HIM, and I think until you truly want to get better and are willing to take what steps are necessary to bring happiness into your life you will notice life will be this never ending spiral of depression.

This is from a person who has dealt with depression her whole life - her grandmother has it, her mother has it, even her fiance has suffered (and nearly taken his life). I'm not simply going to say "get over it", as it isn't as easy as that! And it isn't as simple as looking for the solution outside yourself either - I've been from doctor to doctor trying to find someone to help me and I found that I couldn't just simply wait for something or someone to come along to save me, but I had to find the answers within myself. Of course I had help along the way, and I had doctors who helped me by putting myself on medication, but you will find until you train your way of thinking you will have one hell of a battle that will feel constantly uphill.

I would continue trying to go to counseling or therapy, but make sure to go with an open mind and try to take on board what they are saying as they are trying to help, but along with that you should sit down and think to yourself what makes you happy and try to find out if you can set some goals (both short term and long term) and see if you can start making the steps to accomplishing them. You'll find even the smallest step towards those goals can really make you feel better about yourself and life around you -- you've given yourself purpose. That in itself can really help a person come out of that spiral.

I also understand what it feels like to be bullied too, but I can assured you as one who was constantly ridiculed for the way I looked, I was called all sorts of names from boygirl to tarzan, tuna (because apparently I smelled) to sexual harassment - calling me dyke and butch and other nasty names. It hurts, and it takes a huge hit to the self esteem. I haven't had counseling or anything for it, but in time the wounds have healed and had to learn the hard way that you have to not let it get to you. They knew I would bite every time, and I'm sure they saw the hurt from my reaction and they knew I wouldn't retaliate. I can't really offer much advise other than time heals wounds, and once you move on to another stage of your life you find out how insignificant and stupid some of those comments are. I continue to stay true to myself, and do what makes me happy -- rather follow some sort of trend blindly just to 'fit in'.

Anyways, I really hope you keep up with the therapy, especially with a case of self hurting as that really isn't healthy and needs to be addressed. There are safer ways of releasing your emotion that will feel just as beneficial...

Edit - To Nambs - I wish to applaud you for your positive thinking and your making steps to make life better. You have to stop being the victim. Very wise words.

Kah Hilzin-Ec 04-22-2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HIM_ROCK (Post 1764375759)
I don't think I'm ever going to get any help.

There's the problem, HIM. You don't believe in your own abilities. Each human has them - get the dust off the package and use them!

HIM_ROCK 04-23-2009 01:33 PM

I'm never going to get help because everytime i ask for help i just get called stupid.

jellysundae 04-23-2009 01:38 PM

Maybe you do need to find it from within then? Or from a completely unlikely source...some therapists and doctors have their heads up their arses and can say the most rediculous things.

I'd sneak up on your issues from behind. Try and find something new to interest yourself that you'll enjoy doing and will make you feel good. Any time spent doing something that makes you happy is a plus right? Even if you start to feel bad again later, you still had some up time so that's positive.

You live in a quiet area? I know you're close to a city, but how much access do you have to transportation to get yourself out and about?

Oh, and I'm in the same position as you now with the job centre. They're useless aren't they? D: They're not helping me to find a job at all.

HIM_ROCK 04-23-2009 01:43 PM

i've decided to go to borneo i just need to find somewhere to volenteer for on a long term basis seeing as i can only afford to go one way.

jellysundae 04-23-2009 06:33 PM

Really?! Awesome!

I'm excited for you! Doing something like that will give you an entirely new perspective on life, hell, it will be a whole new life and could lead to so many things! :hug: Well done on deciding to take such a big and brave step!

Nambs 04-23-2009 06:40 PM

I think that's a very admirable thing, HIM. My only advice, don't use this as an excuse to run away from your problems. It doesn't make them go away.

HIM_ROCK 04-23-2009 07:23 PM

I'm going to see about possibly going for a week or two. If I can't get the money together then I might just go visit my auntie in Turkey for a couple of weeks.

Kah Hilzin-Ec 04-24-2009 05:34 AM

Turkey, Borneo, Santo Domingo de los Tsáchilas. As long as you get some foreign estimulation? I think it's a great idea :)

jellysundae 04-24-2009 01:01 PM

Anywhere that's away from your non-friends and hard to get along with mother is going to be better, right?

I'd trade dingey semi-northern England for Turkey any day. Staying with your Auntie for a while might be a good move anyway, you can move on elsewhere from there once you've had time to get your head together a bit and look into your options further.

The best of luck to you though, HIM, whatever you end up doing :hug:

Izumi 04-24-2009 03:24 PM

Traveling to a different country is a wonderful way to gain some perspective on life. I hope you are able to do it, and I hope it will help you find purpose. :)

HIM_ROCK 05-12-2009 05:58 PM

Things have been alright and on the up for a while until now depression seems to be back worse now.

jellysundae 05-12-2009 10:55 PM

Do you keep a diary or anything of how you feel, I mean like a record of your ups and downs? How you feel seems to swing quite regularly, and I wondered if it was fairly regular and could possibly be linked to/affected by hormonal changes or something similar, or whether is something that's entirely random.

HIM_ROCK 05-13-2009 08:04 AM

I've kept one before to see if it was at a certain time of month and it wasn't linked to that. I've been thinking about doing that again when I find the notebook it was in.


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