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Sho-Shonojo 01-11-2009 04:29 AM

Am I wrong? -New Development-
 
So here's a little back story. I missed the book buy back at my school and decided to try selling my books on Craiglist.com. It wasn't going so well and then I get an e-mail from a man in Ohio (I live in South Carolina). It was virtually impossible to understand, but I figured it would work because I really needed the money.

Well we go through all this crap. He says that he's buying the book for someone who lives down here and he's going to send the money to me and then I just have to hand the book off to whoever it's going to. That works for me fine.

Well then I got an e-mail today saying that not only do I have to meet the guy, but I also have to cash the check being sent to me and pay the guy who picking up the book with part of the money(there was extra, so it's not like it was part of my pay) Now I've also found out that my school is having another buy back so I'm thinking of backing out of this whole thing (which is sounding pretty fishy now), and just selling my books to the school. I can't help but feel a little guilty, after all the money is already in the mail.

Is it wrong of me to want to back out? This thing has been going on since before Christmas. I thought selling a book would take me a few days.

Here's an example of one of his e-mails, so you can see the kind of garbage I had to read through just to try and understand what he wanted.
Quote:

Good morning,
how are you doing with your family,yes i m really sorry it took me so long to email you i m out for church salvation i m just back
last night,yes i just wanna let you know that i m really much interested to buy it from you,and like i said it going to be given to
motherless home as thanks given so i m wiling to pay you wright about now,i need this to be done before there school,and i will like
you include this to the books i wanna order,psychology,mathematics for business, and. Personal finance textbooks,kindly email me
your information to proceed with payment I e your full name,home address,state code number and your smooth phone number to reach you
for conversation,as for the pick up,i will personal arrange for the pick up wright from your place down to the motherless home which
needed,looking forward to hear from you,(name removed),Wishing you and
your family Complement of the season,and happy new yrs,.
The worst thing I find about this mail is that I had a specific list of books I was selling, and they were only art books, and out of no where he asks for psychology and mathematics books? I just can't understand how this guy is thinking.

Spoons:
Am I wrong to want to back out of this deal?
Have you ever had to deal with someone like this?
How did it work out in the end?
Did this guy ever take an English class in his life??


Edit: So I've still been trying to get this guy to leave me the heck alone. He's sent me three e-mails all of which I have ignored because I told him in my last e-mail that I was no longer interested in his business and that I would send his check back once I got it from him.

Today, I received this e-mail.

Quote:

Good morning,my dearest one,
yes before proceed wanna thanks for the patient with me,may the lord bless you and your entire family,guess what just have the tracking number for the payment and i m sure it will surely deliver this week i m gonna email you the tracking so that you will know when the payment is going to deliver okay,and more so wanna let you know that payment was include with shipping movers and i will like to informs you that the amount you re going to recieve is 2,100$ you re to get your money deduct+50$ as your own compensate for the patient with me,so the remain fund will be sent down to shipping movers via western union i m gonna email you there information as soon as get back to you okay,so please bear with me i will like you do what ext i told you as soon as you get the payment okay,may the lord bless you and your whole entire once again thanks for the honest with me and patient,leave in peace.
My first reaction is... what the hell? And where does he get off calling me dearest one? :shudder: Let me remind you that I've ignored his last few e-mails, and somehow he thinks that means I'm agreeing to continue the deal.

My biggest problem with this e-mail. $2100. He told me he was shipping money down to pay me and the guy who was going to pick up the book. Let's see here, $50 for, that still leaves $2050 for that guy. Does anyone else see a suspicious problem with all of this?

Should I report him on Craigslist? (if I can figure out how)

DeLish 01-11-2009 04:39 AM

Fishy Fishy
 
Is it really necessary to give him all that contact information? For selling things online, I'd set up a PayPal account or get a PO Box so they don't have my actual address. It does seem fishy. I don't know why he would ask for books you didn't have. I wouldn't do it. I don't blame you for wanting to back out.

Sho-Shonojo 01-11-2009 04:44 AM

Well considering he lived all the way in Ohio, I figured it would just go like this. He sends me the check, I ship him the book. But it's gone all sorts of complicated on me.

Oh, and I didn't mention this, but he won't even tell me who it is I'm meeting to give the book to until I receive the check. What the hell is that?

xSzayel Granz 01-11-2009 04:48 AM

People have privacy issues. It's just something you have to deal with.
Also. this is the internet. Maybe he bought a book of you, cheaply, to see if you were a scammer ( like the many of the web) or you were the real deal.


Also yes. You should of just got a PayPal account. Much smoother for transactions.

DeLish 01-11-2009 04:57 AM

[tone="paranoia"] But what if the Ohio address is fake, and HE'S the guy he wants you to meet and he's gunna RAEP YOOOO!!!! :gonk:[/tone] How far are you from Ohio? Is he saying it's a gift for this recipient or donation or something? Where is he trying to get you to go? If you're going to do it, take some trusty muscles with you in case he needs to fight someone off. You gotta boyfriend or buff close friend? Don't tell him you're packin' 'dat powah, neeva. :no:

xSzayel Granz 01-11-2009 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeLish (Post 4577995)
[tone="paranoia"] But what if the Ohio address is fake, and HE'S the guy he wants you to meet and he's gunna RAEP YOOOO!!!! :gonk:[/tone] How far are you from Ohio? Is he saying it's a gift for this recipient or donation or something? Where is he trying to get you to go? If you're going to do it, take some trusty muscles with you in case he needs to fight someone off. You gotta boyfriend or buff close friend? Don't tell him you're packin' 'dat powah, neeva. :no:

There's no need to make her paranoid.

But yeah, someone like that is the extreme of the opposite of what I was talking about.
While it may be nice to take someone with you, they may get suspiscious and think you're going to rob them.

If you do take a friend, make sure he (or she) doesen't look like they are there with you.



I wish trust wasn't so dead on this planet between strangers.

DJ Mango 01-11-2009 05:06 AM

WHAT??? D: I'm scared for you...
And Granz is right, this is the internet. Just because someone puts it in words, doesn't mean its true. He could be a stalker, or a rapist. Who knows..he might be somewhere near your house right now, waiting. o.o

And you gave him your address? To your house? D:

If I were you now, I'd lock all my doors, windows and bring something to defend myself everytime I leave the house. ...Like a pocket knife.l

Sho-Shonojo 01-11-2009 05:10 AM

I'm about nine hours driving distance from Ohio.

He told me that the book was a gift for a "motherless home". That's a direct quote from him. He told me to choose a place for the transaction. I would most definitely have my sister with me because we go everywhere together.

That part of it isn't really bothering me as much as the fact as he's been very unreliable with information and getting back to me from the start, and now he's asking me to foot the bill for the guy I don't even know yet.

Let me put it this way, he said he was going to send me the tracking information for the mail so I could see when the money was arriving. He told me that on the 6th and he still hasn't sent me the information.

DeLish 01-11-2009 05:16 AM

Close it.
 
Well then tell him the transaction is taking too long or something and so the deal is forfeited. He said before school started, and well, school started for most kids last Monday, and for me this Monday. Time's running out. He'll also have to hire a translator to handle any further text conversations. :talk2hand:

Sho-Shonojo 01-11-2009 05:25 AM

School starts for me this coming Monday and I've just sent him an e-mail telling him the deals off and I'll have his money sent back in the mail. Mostly I did it because my mom told me too.

I can't help feeling bad because I can't help thinking that I'm coming off as entirely rude. This guy has just been driving me crazy!

Granz: Wow, calm down. I'm not too afraid of anyone coming to my house. Plus I keep all the doors locked, and I have big dogs, and a stand up Joker tacked to the wall.(He looks pretty scary in the dark). And I still live my family, so there are always a lot of people home and police living right down the street. Why have you even got me thinking about this. :o

xSzayel Granz 01-11-2009 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sho-Shonojo (Post 4578195)
School starts for me this coming Monday and I've just sent him an e-mail telling him the deals off and I'll have his money sent back in the mail. Mostly I did it because my mom told me too.

I can't help feeling bad because I can't help thinking that I'm coming off as entirely rude. This guy has just been driving me crazy!

Granz: Wow, calm down. I'm not too afraid of anyone coming to my house. Plus I keep all the doors locked, and I have big dogs, and a stand up Joker tacked to the wall.(He looks pretty scary in the dark). And I still live my family, so there are always a lot of people home and police living right down the street. Why have you even got me thinking about this. :o


Olol. I thought because you gave your adress away, you were much older. Sorry about that. Didn't even noticed I needed to calm down. Oh wells. Sorry 'bout that. Heh.

RoseMaxwell 01-11-2009 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sho-Shonojo (Post 4577819)

Am I wrong to want to back out of this deal?
Have you ever had to deal with someone like this?
How did it work out in the end?
Did this guy ever take an English class in his life??


Are you wrong? Absolutely not!

Scammers abound all over the place. My mom had some small dealings with someone who was 'out of the country', and we figured that he was a scammer guy.

In the end, he was reported to the site as being a fraud. A lot of times, if you look at the email details, there will be something like this: [email protected] abc.com < [email protected] 123.com>. Just looking at the two different emails in the information tells me straight off that this guys a fraud. :yes:

English? Probably not this guys first language, if he even speaks it. More than likely he's not even telling you the truth about where he lives, and he's actually out of the country. If you were to deposit the check, he'd have information on you, and would be able to scam you out of lots of money.

Good thing for you that you listened to your mom, especially as he was taking far too long to 'make a deal.'

Sho-Shonojo 01-11-2009 05:54 AM

Oops Granz, I actually meant to tell Mango to calm down. ^.^;; But yea, I'm 19, but I'm still living at home.

Thanks Max, I'm glad to hear that I don't seem that paranoid about this guy. It's a good thing you guys didn't deal with that guy!

On the off chance that he isn't a scammer, I suggested that next time he tries to buy from Craigslist, that he should deal locally instead of across several states. If this was the real deal it would have been so much easier for him to just buy the book from someone up there an ship it to whoever he wanted to send it to.

Vickicat 01-11-2009 07:49 AM

Stuff.
 
That guy sounds kind of scary, to be honest. The whole thing sounds weird and I wouldn't give my address to someone like that no matter how many people or dogs or police were in or near my house. The whole thing sounds fake. Motherless home? I mean... Yeah there's organizations and stuff for kids but we're talking college books right? People old enough for college are adults and if they had no parents and needed some sort of support it wouldn't be from a home for children with no parents. It would be for something for adults I would think. You were right to call it off. Honestly, I think the thing I would worry about the most would be the check bouncing. I definitely wouldn't accept a check from someone like that. Not reliable at all! I have quite a few college books sitting around because my college is crappy and won't buy back certain books. They just flat out refuse to buy certain ones back, they make sure to change the books for some classes every semester so they can sell all new books and not have to buy any of the old ones back for students so we get stuck with them and lose out on the entire price of the book. I was considering selling some on Craigslist, I've never sold anything on there before but I can't think of any other way to get rid of them, and now I think I'm scared to.

Omi 01-11-2009 07:55 AM

Yeah, I'd totally back out of that. It seems like the deal turned into something that you didn't agree to initially and, therefore, he breached of the initial contract terms (if you can call it that...?) first.

I would send the money back ASAP via certified mail (to make sure the guy signs for it) and tell him, "Thanks but no thanks. This is far too much work when I can just go sell them back to the store for less hassle."

DJ Mango 01-11-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sho-Shonojo (Post 4578374)
Oops Granz, I actually meant to tell Mango to calm down. ^.^;; But yea, I'm 19, but I'm still living at home.

Thanks Max, I'm glad to hear that I don't seem that paranoid about this guy. It's a good thing you guys didn't deal with that guy!

On the off chance that he isn't a scammer, I suggested that next time he tries to buy from Craigslist, that he should deal locally instead of across several states. If this was the real deal it would have been so much easier for him to just buy the book from someone up there an ship it to whoever he wanted to send it to.

Sorry. :sweat:
.__. I feel bad now.

Sho-Shonojo 01-11-2009 06:28 PM

I'm glad to hear that I seem to have made the right choice. I'm still waiting for a reply on that e-mail I sent him. I hope he at least answers it, I would hate to get no reply at all.

Don't feel bad about it Mango. I was more joking than anything. :hugs:

LoversEnd 01-11-2009 06:46 PM

I'd say back out of that and don't give him your information. From what you said, it sounds like he's just preying on you. He could be lying after all. So he might live where you do. I don't think I'd give him any kind of info if it were me. *nods* Just my input, also, if you get the check or whatever and you don't cash it, just rip it up and he keeps the money in his bank account. *nods*

Coquette 01-11-2009 11:44 PM

Quote:

Spoons:
Am I wrong to want to back out of this deal?
Have you ever had to deal with someone like this?
How did it work out in the end?
Did this guy ever take an English class in his life??

if you can take care of everything, then yes
at first i was gonna say no, but then i thought a little about it

no, i have not gotten into a situation like this before
-third question is void

and maybe he did; i'm sure i've spoken like that before. i'm not very formal in the way i type either

Neurotic Cupcake 01-12-2009 12:06 AM

In all honestly. This sounds very fishy to me as well. I do not really think that you should go through with it. All you really have to do is not cash the check. It is that simple. I think the main thing that raised a red flag in my head was when he told you that he wanted to meet you. Besides, he could have written the check out for the exact amount that he owed you for the book, so there really is no reason for them to have to meet you in person at all. You should not feel bad about not going through with this, it all seems very questionable if you ask me.

insanester 01-13-2009 12:10 AM

Back out. don't fall for it. It sounds fishy, and you don't want to end up dead. So Just sell it at your school and everything will be fine. :)

Jenova4 01-13-2009 02:12 AM

Yeah, The first few sentences of his e-mail scared me a little.
Good think you broke it off. Don't worry about if it seems rude. You two are strangers, and you don't necessarily have to be cordial.

Guesstimation Imagination 01-13-2009 02:17 AM

That's sorta scary...I would back out immediatly once the person asked for my personal information. He could be a psychopathic murderer..

suicidal_sal 01-13-2009 02:42 AM

It's good that you backed out of the deal, he sounds like a creeper. He doesn't even need your information! Why the heck does he need to know all of your information, the only thing he didn't ask you for was your social security number... geez Louise!

And what exactly is a ":motherless home" assuming they need those books they're already adults, in college and can take care of themselves. Why did you even have to meet the person, all of it was just wrong. You did the right thing.


What the Frick! "motherless home?" give me a freaking break! That's rapist talk for "meet me at my house":sarcasm: Seriously, though, that guy... EPIC PHAIL:angry:

Liath 01-13-2009 02:57 AM

That's pretty stupid, for lack of a better word. It's like the guy himself doesn't even know what he needs you to do.
I'd say if you're not feeling comfortable with this deal, back out. That's definitely a bit fishy if he asked for all of that information from you.


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