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Miss Mad Hatter 02-10-2009 12:53 AM

-thyme in-
Hey hey, How are you? Ever finish the homework?

Thyme Traveler 02-10-2009 01:29 AM

@Queen:
Yes, those creamsicles are delectable- I haven't had them in awhile myself.
The fudgesicles I got are only 40 calories each, so I can eat them guiltlessly. xD

@Missy:
Yes, in part. I managed to finish just what was due today- the research I'm still working on, right now. It should go smoothly though; I found some good sources to use, so I'm feeling a bit more optimistic now. ^_^
What about you?

Miss Mad Hatter 02-10-2009 01:36 AM

@Thyme; I managed to get everything done except journalism. Gah I hate that class. It's so boring.
=] I'm glad your project is going well.
I'm about to probably go make cookies. Though I want to hold off until tomorrow. lol

Thyme Traveler 02-10-2009 01:44 AM

Is it? One of my friends took journalism, and she loved it. But maybe it depends on the teachers- or the topics- or whether you like writing or not. xD
Cookies!<33
What kind? You should go make them now- and give me one when you're done! xD
My mom made cake. xD

Miss Mad Hatter 02-10-2009 07:30 AM

Gah, sorry for bailing earlier. My tummy started to feel really yucky & I crashed out.
It's not the writing part that I hate. lol It's the teacher... x_x he's soooo stupid.

Mhm. Cookies. V-day sugar cookies. :drool: If I could somehow give you one, I would!

Pa-pancake 02-10-2009 08:39 AM

Hey Thyme!

Its been awhile :) Well, for me it's been awhile since I had not log on for about 24 hours, which seems like a really long time O.O How have you been doing?

Thyme Traveler 02-10-2009 06:25 PM

I've been good. ^_^
I'm at college right now- using a computer here to do some research.
How've you been for the last 24 hours? xD
It's nighttime there, right?

Pa-pancake 02-10-2009 06:30 PM

Heya!

Research. What kind of research are you doing? What course are you taking up by the way?
Well, For the last 24 hours. I feel GREAT! I wanna blab about my happiness! XD
Can I? Can I? *begs*

I think I will regardless... XD

Well, the last few hours have been better than the last 20 before them. I sort of called my boyfriend after dinner and asked why he never messaged the whole day. And he said he was sick (which he was in a way). Then after dinner, I asked if we could maybe chat online on Skype and he said he was doing something so I was like, 'okay... Its 11pm, what is he doing?' Then the doorbell rang and I was like, 'No way...' He brought me a single rose and said, 'Happy Early Valentines Day'.

*in ecstacy mood*

Okay so it wasn't Valentines but *sighs* I felt like it was anyways...

Sorry if I took up a post in your thread to 'KYA!' about it ^^"

Queen_Andais 02-10-2009 06:37 PM

That's just wrong...eating ice cream without guilt. Very weird. I want all the guilt!

Thyme Traveler 02-10-2009 06:37 PM

I'm researching a dialect of American English called Gullah. It's only spoken in a tiny area of the United States; not many people know about it.
It's for a research paper I'm writing for English composition class...xD
I'm also taking Marine Biology this semester.

Honey, you can "Kyaaa~!!" all you want here. xD
That's soo sweet! Awww...^w^
That is something to be ecstatic about! *envies* =3

What classes are you taking?

Pa-pancake 02-10-2009 07:00 PM

Thyme:
Wow! I should be envious of your classes. They sound really interesting and not something everybody takes. Is the English class your elective?
I'm taking economics and management. Sort of a double major for a business degree. Its actually quite normal around here. Just a weird combination of majors.
All my electives so far have not been fun since my electives are still economics and management ^^" I drive myself crazy by taking all my core subjects as electives too.

Thank you for letting me 'KYA!' here! XD I couldn't find the English equivalent to 'Kya!' It just doesn't exist does it?
And I am happy. Its the first flower I've gotten from him in 2 years O.o I think its because I always told him flowers are a waste on money on Valentines Day XD
*throws that thought away* Whatever! I love my rose! :P I don't know what to do with it now though? I have no vase...

Anda:
The single mention of ice-cream makes me want to go get some :P

Thyme Traveler 02-10-2009 07:14 PM

No, it's a required class for any major- I don't need many electives for my major, just a couple of classes which I finished in my first two years.
My major is Japanese language and translation.
The classes I'm taking are General Education classes. I can take a variety of them, so I try to mix it up so I get a bit of every discipline. It's fun. ^_^
What kinds of jobs do economics and management majors do?
Did you choose it because it's a major you like or because that career path is in high demand now?

Hmmm...maybe "Squee!" could be the "kya" equivalent in English? Unless "squee" isn't English at all...xD
Maybe you should try pressing the rose. Then it'll be preserved as it dries and last a long time...

@Queen:
I don't like to feel guilty when I eat. XD
Ruins the fun of eating in the first place- then I can't enjoy it.
I think it's just better to reduce the amount of ice cream I eat- or eat low-cal ice cream- instead of avoiding it altogether.
That would never happen though- I love food too much. xD

Pa-pancake 02-10-2009 07:26 PM

Oh required classes! We have those too but we completed it in pre-university courses. Ours were moral studies and Malaysian Studies. We also had the national language if people did not do well in their government exams for the national language.
For us, since English isn't the country's first language, they look very lowly on our English skills to to enter our university, we have to take English tests. =.="
The education system there is really interesting. I somehow like talking about education systems. You might find that weird... :P

And Whoa! I love your major! XD I want that kind of major. Though sadly my parents aren't really fond of me doing language.
I wanted to take up English and probably try my luck at being an editor at local publishers. But my parents thought studying language is hard in this country >.<"
I did my course because it's probably the next best thing to what I really wanted. Language and arts. I can't draw much but I love interior decorating ^^
I guess its definitely easy to get a job with my degree, everyone needs a human resource manager or financial analyst nowadays.
So yeah, I can work for any company really since management is so broad. I like the thought of becoming a human resource manager.
And for economics, I really hate it since I never understood it but I somehow seem to be able to bullcrap all my exam papers with randomness that work O.o
But I think with economics, I can work with trading companies or with stock markets. Something of that sort.

Squee works too! But I never used squee that much unless its for kawaii things XD Squee should be an English word, right? XD So much for me wanting to take up English as a major :P

Thyme Traveler 02-10-2009 07:47 PM

I like talking about different educational systems too! So by all means chat away about it as much as you like.
I can hold my own because I lived in Egypt for my last three years of high school and first two years of college- and the systems were SO different from the States.

Your system sounds similar to the Egyptian system- you take all your GE's before you start college- and just delve into your major right away from first year.
I did the same thing- but when I transferred to college here in the States, they didn't accept that system, and I have to do all those GE classes over again. x_x

My parents wanted me to be a doctor, but I put my foot down and did the exact opposite. I wanted an non-science major; I love science, but I don't want to study medecine for ten years to get my PhD.
Besides, I learning Japanese is more fun than work- and at the time I chose it (when I was in college in Egypt) that was the best career path for a language major. There aren't many Japanese departments in colleges over there- and they're really hard to get into and only accept a few students at the top. My class had only 22 students in a college with over 5,000 students. So it was a very demanding major as well.

When I moved back to the States I found myself ahead of my class in Japanese, because the teaching level in languages here is lower (can you imagine? worst than the third-world country I'd just come from. xD). But they insisted I do my GE's again as if I were a first year.
So that's what I'm doing now. x3

Aw, I hope the Economics gets easier with practice. I took a class in high school, and I loved it- but mostly because I had a great teacher, so...

Pa-pancake 02-10-2009 07:59 PM

Oooh! You went to Egypt! That's pretty cool yet you had to retake a lot of things? Are you now almost finishing your degree in Japanese Language? And I think maybe the language standards there is higher because its an Asian country teaching an Asian language? Our standards of English here are horrible! We sometimes have fill in the blanks with 'is', 'with' or 'the' in our fourth grade =.="

Our education system is really different. We graduate out of high school with government exams where people take a minimum of 6 subjects. Coming from a crazy school, our students weren't allowed the minimum. The minimum for our school was 9 or else! I took 10 and was from the science stream. How I hated it! XD

So we don't get no diplomas out of high school, we just had to qualify for pre-univeristy in colleges, go straight to diplomas or continue in government school where you take the 2nd hardest exam in the world... That was not an option at all for me :P

I went on to pre-U and took law for a year. We crammed two years of Australian education into one year to qualify for university. And in Malaysia, we don't have many foreign universities, local universities are insanely hard to get into for non-Malays. So we opt for expensive as hell foreign ones, which are hard to get into to but with okay pre-U results, they are fine.

At least I can be proud to say I am in one of the better foreign universities and when I do get my degree it is recognized :)

I never took economics in high school ^^" So I was a total n00b O.O My teachers are nice too but I just never really took it in much. It is kind of boring. Just that I bullcrap it into making some kind of sense that I myself do not know of...

Thyme Traveler 02-10-2009 08:41 PM

I studied in Egypt. A harrowing experience, I can tell you.
I guess it was a bit of a culture shock- so very different from the US and all I had grown up with. To make matters worse I went to a public Egyptian school my first year there (10th grade)- and the educational system was just too different and too oppressive. Tenth grade in Egypt is like first-year college here in the US- you take 18 subjects- I'm not kidding! Ask students from there- 18 subjects- the purpose of which is to help you decide what you want to major in, because your major will decide what classes you take in your last 2 years of high school.
Luckily, I transferred to an private American school for my final two high school years, so I skipped all that crap about prep-classes for my major. I had friends in the system, though, and they said it was hell on earth.

I went to a public Egyptian university after that. They're free, and pretty good, too, if you have high grades. The college system is grade-based, with top students getting first choice of colleges and majors.

Japanese was actually the hardest language department to get into. You had to have a 96% grade average and a perfect 100% score in your high school English exam ( I don't know why that was so important).

The college itself was decrepit, but the teachers were great- all Japanese- which is more than I can say for some of the other language departments.
I think I learned way better from my professors in Egypt than those over here. I'm worried that my level will drop if I don't take more advanced Japanese classes soon.
But first I have these GEs to finish. ?_<

Sorry...I bored you with that long story. But I had to keep my frozen fingers warm. xD

Gotta run- see ya later, Pan! =]

Miss Mad Hatter 02-10-2009 11:59 PM

THYME!! *glomps* How are you? Besides busy? lol

Queen_Andais 02-12-2009 12:01 AM

Good afternoon Thyme. Yet another thread where people max out their gold getting for the post. Craziness.

Kind of grey and icky outside, but I love that feel of rain and just flaking out on the couch. Not sure if mom and I will be walking tonight if the rain starts to come down. Not much into the wet squishy feeling in my shoes *shudders* Gross.

Pa-pancake 02-12-2009 08:43 AM

*Jumps in*

Heya Thyme,

Just wondering how your research is going? Should be fine right considering you didn't come in after our chat yesterday ^^"

Okay 18 subjects is insane O.O How the h*ll do they have time for 18 subjects. Its only a five day school week right? Unless you stay in school for much much longer hours >.<" But after the 10th grade surely it was relaxed a little? We just had the government exams again when we were 15 to decide which stream we would be put into in our final 2 years of high school. Thinking about your experience, I was wondering how come you were sent to a public school there. Didn't they converse in Egyptian? I'm sure the private school was fine but the public school...?

Public universities there are free? O.O Even for foreigners? That's a first I've heard. Universities here are never free but yeah public universities here are many many times cheaper. Only they have really low standards. They also are insanely hard to get into if you are not of the national race. So even with perfect grades for the final year of high school, they would only allow a certain number of other races to enroll.

96% average O.o Okay, I can forget about that... XD That is really insane! I've never even come close to sniffing a 96% average. 100% for English seems achievable but on the other subjects... Wow! My business degree only required us to have a Tertiary Entrance Rank of 82. Meaning that you'd have to be in the top 18% of that course taken around the world. Which is actually much easier than the average thing because my average was actually quite low but my TER was high =.=" Meaning that either my year's exams were really hard or everyone else in my year was not that smart including me XD

I hope I didn't bother you with my story as well. I think I always talk about the education system when I get the chance... Sorry dear ^^"

Queen_Andais 02-12-2009 04:44 PM

Nice Universities and State Colleges are very selective of who they grant admittance to. Good grades are great, but to truly be accepted the applicant has to have other nonacademic achievements to their name or play a sport really well. Universities and State colleges are also more expensive to attend, costing the 10 to 20 thousands a year.
City colleges, or Community colleges usually only require a high school diploma and are much cheaper to attend. Much cheaper, it could cost about 500 a semester versus 15 thousand.

Thyme Traveler 02-13-2009 03:33 PM

@Missy:
Heya! *tackles*
I'm good- didn't sleep for the 36 hours between 5am Wednesday and 5pm yesterday. I had so much to do still on my research report that there was no time to sleep! xD
I'm fine now though- I slept right after dinner last night and now I feel fine. ^_^


@Queen:
Heyyy...you do it too! xD
Lol- I think it was just coincidence that we had a lot to say- that's how the posts came out so long!
I love the rain! And I love walking in it and getting soaked (but only if I don't have to go anywhere afterwards)- and I don't have rain boots, so my feet always get squishy and soggy. I don't mind, though- they usually get so cold I don't even feel it after awhile.

Yeah, that's true about good universities. I'm in a community college right now, because it's inexpensive, but I really want to transfer to a good university. I've applied, but I'm not sure I have enough extra-curricular activities to my name. I don't have any sports at all- because when I was in high school overseas they didn't offer those kinds of activities. I hope the university takes that into account...>_<"


@Pan:
Well, it's impossible to get good grades in 18 subjects, so it's a known fact that 10th grade is "whatever year"- even the best students just try to scrape a pass at best. It doesn't matter because schools only require you to pass 10th grade to get into 11th- and they'll pass you even if you fail a few subjects. They have to be easy on you because the amount of work is ridiculous.
I only had 9-10 subjects because I was a foreign student and thus exempt from subjects taught in Arabic- and even 10 subjects had me doing nothing but eating, sleeping and studying- that whole year!

Yes, they're free- all you have to pay for is a small fee for books.
They don't limit the amount of foreigners, but they do limit the amount of students from foreign school systems. For example, I went to an American school with a US school system and curriculum, so I was considered an applicant from a foreign system.
Generally universities reserve 5% of their space for foreign school system students- even if they are Egyptian (like if an Egyptian went to an American or French or some other foreign school in Egypt, they'd be considered coming from a foreign school even if they're citizens).

96% isn't all that high, because grades there can go over 100%- up to 112% I think. And 100%+ grades are required for medical and engineering fields like dentistry, architecture or if you want to become a doctor. I think dentistry was highest at 112% grade average requirement. Medicine was 110%.
I was 110%- which is why my family wanted me to become a doctor- they thought I was going into a field below my level when I decided on Japanese.
I disagree.
The philosophy there is, if you've got the grades for a certain field- take it- it doesn't matter whether you like it or not.
Yeah, the college entrance exam sounds much easier than the Egyptian system. They make it so hard!
But I think there's also a reason why the set such high standards- especially for difficult fields requiring years of study- it's because they want to make sure only students that are worth their while get in- after all, the government is going to pay for all those years of education! When I think of the loan debts medical majors accumulate here! It makes sense.
It's still outrageous, though. xD

Hey, I like talking about education, too- this is good- now we can rant all we want to each other about education systems! xD


Woah, it took me so long to type this, I got signed out of Mene! xD

Pa-pancake 02-13-2009 04:50 PM

Ohhh you sort of lucked out with 10th grade then with only 10 subjects ^^" Its different here because we don't have 10th grade and stuff like that. We have forms? In public schools we have primary school for standards 1-6 (7-12 years old) and secondary school with forms 1-5 (13-17 years old). This is compulsory for all of us unless we enroll in private schools. But in our 3rd form at 15 years old, similar to 10th grade, we have the exams that we take 7 papers for the government to determine what stream we would take. In my case, it was what stream my school would force you into =.=" So yeah, we had 10 subjects in our schedule but only 7 were examinable ^^"

Its amazing that they're free! Our books are killer expensive here probably amounting to about 500 bucks per semester And I usually pay for my own books with my own money so I definitely feel the pinch >.<" I'm not sure who they exclude here since my university is a private foreign one but I know by the next semester, all students will have to spend at least a year in their Australian campuses. Which would probably scare a lot of students away considering how horrible the exchange rate is >.<"

I thought the 96% was over 100%, which made me react with the, 'O.O'. That is pretty insane you've got to admit. And its funny how dentistry is higher than medicine. But actually, medicine TER here is also at its 80s like 88 but engineering is at 90. Engineering in my university seems really hard. I kind of always refer to the super smart ones as engineering students because they do get an average of 90% in their exams and cry if they ever get 80%. All I ever see them do is pray and study =.=" I didn't qualify for medicine with my TER ^^" but even if I did get the mark, they wouldn't let me in since I didn't take Science subjects in my pre-university year.

Well, bribe is always always welcomed in my country! And even more since my university is not government owned. Medicine is the 'IN' thing for people to study so even if you don't get the mark, just add in some more money and hey! You mysteriously get accepted! Voila! I don't think we have students sleeping around with lecturers and all considering my country is super conservative. But we definitely have plenty of monetary bribes going on. ^^"

And yeap! This is probably one of the subjects I could write an essay on with no problems :P

Thyme Traveler 02-13-2009 05:23 PM

The regular school system in Egypt also has forms- elementary, preparatory and secondary- following the British school system (Egypt was under British occupancy for many years).
I was in an American school though, and we used the grade system; I've just gotten used to it so I don't use it even when talking about Egyptian schools.

1st year Secondary= 10th grade high school

It's a bit different from you system- you don't have prep years.
It goes:
Elementary: (six years- ages 5-11)
Preparatory: (three years- ages 12-14)
Secondary: (three years- ages 15-17)

Yeah, bribes are widespread in Egypt as well. It's impossible to avoid them- no matter where you are.
There are bribes for everything- even parking in the street! xD
Even the principal of my private American school probably got her degree on a bribe. My friends and I were sure she didn't get her PhD in Biology by studying.
She taught the Biology SAT courses in an after school program (the SAT is a college entrance exam for American schools- even though it doesn't count in Egyptian universities, they make you take it anyways in case you want to go to a private American university).


Anyways, I went to one of her classes, and you know what she said?

A student asked what a hedghog was.

She said it was a type of extinct dinosaur.


I kid you not. It was all I could do the stop from screaming with laughter.I think we all know that hedgehogs are very much alive and well- and they are not related to dinosaurs in the least.

And then you know what she said?

That a quail was a kind of reptile.
It's a bird.

Who gave this woman a PhD?!!! That's what I want to know.

These are animals the students had never heard of because they not native to Egypt- it's criminal that they should get such wrong information!
I didn't say anything- I was too afraid I wouldn't be able to keep it polite- and this was my principal, after all- so I had to humor her even if I disliked her.
Besides, I was beside myself with joy that I finally had a concrete reason to hate her- I'd disliked her from the first day of school and I didn't know why.
What an idiot.
And not because she didn't know what those animals were- I can forgive it if she said she didn't know- but to lie...
Unless she really did think hedgehogs were [email protected][email protected]
DEFINITELY fake PhD there. Her parents were probably rich, but she wasn't smart enough- or too lazy to study enough- and they bribed her way through college.
Wonder how much a fake PhD costs? Hmmmm....

Yeah- you see some doggone crazy things...living in a third-world country. xD

Queen_Andais 02-13-2009 05:37 PM

So it looks like the strip club is out this weekend as neither one of us has money to go. We'll post-pone the trip until further notice.

Idiot teachers and/or administrators is a little ridiculous and very frustrating. Makes you wonder how these people ever got to be in a position of power to begin with. Most often times, it's all about who can kiss the most ass and who can do it well. There were a few teachers at my high school that should never have been allowed to teach due to personality issues or a lack of brains.
Mr. Flynn comes to mind first and foremost. Fflur and I had this ass hate for sophomore world civilization class. What a NeoNazi ass wipe. Always talked about Hitler, didn't know how to teach and would get mad at you when you called him out about the lesson and the pocket size holes of misinformation he was spewing out. Actually got into a verbal argument with him after class one day in which he threatened to call my parents because I refused to do my homework since he had started calling me Perfect Katie and telling the class that I always turned in my homework.
It was hilarious when he asked me did I want him to call my parents? Simply asked him which number he wanted to contact them with...cell phone, house phone or work numbers since they were both aware of what a prick he was and fully supported me. That shut him up pretty quickly. Nothing like telling a teacher 'Fuck you' without actually saying it.

Thyme Traveler 02-13-2009 06:09 PM

@Queen:

Strip club? Wha...? xD

I've had a number of unbearable English teachers.
I detested Mr. A--- his English grammar was faulty, his accent was despicable, and his spelling ludicrous. Most memorable was when he spelled "baptism" as "pabtism".

Mr. M--- looked me over and said I had a "nice body" on the first day of class during introduction time. I thought, "What are you, a pedo?"
I wasn't even 15 yet...and he was married with kids.Gross.

I dissed my English professor in college by pointing out all her mistakes. I did it on the last day of school though, so I wouldn't get into serious trouble.
It was great- she kicked my friend and I out of class for being "smartmouthed". But the whole class knew I was right and supported me and that made her furious.
I just waved cheerfully as I left- and they all grinned at me. xD



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