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[points to bolded sentence] Just so you know Albert Einstein smoked weed. [points to second bolded sentence] Don't talk about things you know nothing of. Addiction is the definition of physically depending on it, like tobacco addiction. The human body does not depend on THC. It's an habitual drug, not an addicting drug. Also, anyone who thinks Marijuana is bad for you should take the time to open the pages of the history books and realize that we as humans have cultivated weed since..well..ever. It was the very first agricultural plant, used for many medicinal purposes. Anti-Inflammatory, anti-depressant, promoting of healthy digestive tract, preventative chemicals against cancer. [ and the recent discovery that, when cooked with vegetable oil and mixed in a certain way, even cures cancer, by fusing itself with the cancerous cell, then destroying itself] It even temporarily prevent MS attacks. Marijuana is one of the healthiest things you could ever consume. But noooo, why smoke weed when you have all the highly toxic pharmaceutical medication available right? Go ahead, destroy your kidneys and be forever dependent on medication. Marijuana has the largest list of medicinal benefits for a natural plant product. I myself smoke it due to a heart condition I have, I would be dead without it. Sure, I could take medication, but I dont feel like destroying my organs. All these threads about whether or not weed is bad or not are completely pointless, thousands of scientists have lost their license disproving the 200 years of government stupidity and their reason as to "why marijuana is bad" News flash, IT ISNT!! The only reason why it is because some dumbass American scientists put a monkey in a cage and attached a jet breathing apparatus to its face. They then replaced the O2 feed with Marijuana smoke. Every time that monkey breathed out it was releasing carbon monoxide. That poor thing was killing itself with every breath. The lack of oxygen fried his brain cells, and when they did the autopsy they assumed the weed killed his brain cells. Before this test was done Marijuana was LEGAL. It was legal for nearly 2000 years XD They even went as far by saying Marijuana made black men rape and kill white women. I mean seriously, this is YOUR government telling you this. And YOU are agreeing with it. And you dare say people who do drugs are stupid. In fact, during the time of WWII You could get arrested for NOT growing Marijuana plants. AND you could pay your taxes with it. The USA alone would make 90 trillion dollars in the first year if they legalized and taxed Marijuana. I could go on and on but really, those people that believe its bad are one-minded and will never understand why weed isnt bad for you. Quote:
You cant get in trouble for smoking it BUT you cant grow it or sell it, so how do they expect you to smoke it in the first place? The whole "decriminalizing" thing is extremely flawed |
"I agree with the statement that drugs don't make a person stupid, but stupid people do drugs--and that's why we have laws."
How exactly did both of you interpret that statement? Did I say ALL people who use drugs are stupid? No. I said that there are stupid people who do drugs, it's a fact. |
There are also really smart people that do drugs. :P
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^ And just to get back to the debate at hand, did legalizing alcohol and tobacco stop trafficking in those respects? No, there is still an underground industry for cheap tobacco and booze. We still have 'shady businesses' trying to avoid government interferences for the sake of money. In the end, people who are out to make money won't care what the drug does to the people they sell them to. And pot is stupid, fyi. And where did you get that bigoted information that cocaine use was discontinued because the 'african american community' was using it? They discontinued cocaine use in commercial drinks and elixirs because the side-effects of cocaine addiction were finally being noted. I don't think weed is the "devil", (childish analogy LOL, brava. Way to stick words into my mouth.), I just don't think it's smart or healthy for anyone to be using. My 'example' is perfectly fine, I don't see how I'm contradicting myself. If a person goes to rehab to quit a smoking addiction, were they suddenly not ever addicted to smoking? If someone goes cold-turkey from cigarettes, does that suddenly mean that they were never at a point where their brains had a nicotine addiction? If a person decides to quit smoking pot, does it mean that they never had a mental dependency on it? No. And in your example of 'foods', sugars are ESSENTIAL to someone's diet. Your body can't live without intakes of certain fats and sugars. So why then should particular foods be illegal whereas pot is NOT essential to your survival? That was a horrible example. :| ---------- Quote:
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@Deviant - Uhm, pot is healthy, for a lot of people.
About everyone who has any heart condition, eating disorders, MS, Cancer. And about a thousand other conditions. Including myself, Marijuana has kept my heart in regulation for many years now, without it, I'd be dead. So not healthy? Think again. |
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And the whole reason they use medicinal marijuana for cancer is to relieve people of the pain, and stop them from being sick all the time. It's not that I don't believe you when you say that it has kept your heart in regulation, but there are many drugs that people take that don't exactly have true 'healthy' benefits. If all it's doing is keeping your heart in regulation, then what else is it doing? What would be the medical benefits of someone else using that who weren't already using it for pain relief or a heart condition? A pill of Bayer can do both of those things. |
Bayer doesn't relieve pain the way that marijuana can. I had a friend who passed away last October from renal cell carcinoma. He said pot was the best pain killer he ever had. It had helped his appetite, put off his nausea, and allowed him to eat and move about without being so uncomfortable. He really didn't understand why people are so against it, especially for medicinal use.
And trust me, aspirin would not have worked for him. There's a reason that hospitals will put you on a morphine drip instead of giving you a bayer. Also, have you ever herd of Reye's Syndrome? It can kill you. Marijuana, in sensible doses, will not be any more dangerous than aspirin. |
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Oh and of course, lets mention Bayer a prescription drug. The whole point Im making is that Marijuana, when consumed responsibly, is a lot healthier then prescription drugs. Everyone knows that doctors are paid by the government to keep throwing pills at you. The government knows the medical benefits of Marijuana. Everyone knows, its just that the majority refuses to accept this fact. |
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Exactly. As a pain reliever, and as a medical use I can see marijuana being useful. But for some average joe coming up to me on the street and trying to tell me that it's 'healthy' for regular people without any conditions? I just don't see it. |
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Who's to say if they hypothetically made marijuana legal (and assuming the government would have to regulate that and tax that as well) that the doctors wouldn't be paid to throw that to people as well? ---------- Quote:
Well inform me, for the regular person who doesn't have an eating disorder, cancer, a heart condition, or etc. how is it 'healthy?' |
I'd like to see other non-recreational use of hemp legal as well. Y'know, like for making paper, or as an alternative to soy plastic (less expensive + doesn't interfere with food supply).
The problem with the U.S. ban is that it's not legal to do ANYTHING with it, not just recreational use. |
Well for one, it's a general preventative.
It clears the tar out of the lunges of smokers. It regulates your digestive tract, and promotes a healthier appetite. It helps people with sleeping issues. It also regenerates and repairs, broken and or damaged cells. It's an anti-depressant, anti-inflammatory. It helps with anger issues. The list goes on and on and on |
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I could see this too. |
@Deviant - lmfao. General preventative isnt for people with "issues"
Neither is an anti-depressant nor anti-inflammatory. Regulation of your digestive tract, and promoting a healthier appetite also isnt an "issue" And seeing that like 97% of a general population smokes or has smoked, it counts as "the average person" Sleeping problems isnt always an "issue" neither is anger. Or sorry a "condition" |
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For the average person who doesn't need to have regulation of their digestion, for the person who doesn't have anger problems, sleeping problems, or lung problems from smoking...how is marijuana 'healthy?' I guess I just don't see the connection of how this drug is immediately beneficial to someone who wasn't already suffering from a separate issue. The digestion thing I can kind of see now, but I haven't located a legitimate site that wasn't biased, and had actual studies that could tell me that. |
Wow, you're just not getting this, at all.
No one NEEDS to have their digestive system regulated but it helps and they SHOULD because it is HEALTHY to do so. And please, read a post before you respond, not being able to sleep isnt ALWAYS a problem, EVERYONE has those nights where they cant sleep or those days where you're just angry just because. And everything pisses you off. Weed would help get rid of it. Also, EVERYONE smokes in one way or another, be it first hand or second hand smoke. Take the accumulation over several years and even a non-smoker will have tar in their lunges. Ive answered your question several times now, if you still dont get it then I cannot help you and you should read a banned book called "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" It was written by a man who had access to many legit historical documentations and historic videos, etc etc. His books were banned from every single book store in the world because he publically went against the government and disproved their "reason" for the banning of Weed, and also disproved all the myths and rumours on weed. EDIT:: Or watch the documentary called " The Union: The business behind getting high" Another EDIT:: It has been proven that smoking Marijuana promotes healthy brain cell growth. By that reason alone EVERYONE should smoke Marijuana. Not necessarily every day, but on occasion |
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Or is this just propaganda you've picked up from 'documentaries' about being pro-marijuana? Edit: Because if there are any at all, I'd like to look at them. You've said you know all about this stuff, but you can't provide any links to these apparently 'commonly' known facts? |
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And dont speak so hypocritically, you picked up your side of propaganda yourself. And dont assume I cant provide you with links, I simply forgot to include it. The only place to read that book is the only place its still available and thats his site. Here He makes the appropriate citations of every single document in history that he got his information from. |
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So, he's basing his opinion off historical contexts, and not actually by any modern studies that have been done on the use of marijuana....really? I'm saying that I don't think smoking marijuana for other than medicinal use is neither healthy or smart. There just is no proof to back up either of our claims. And you're trying to prove to me that smoking weed is going to restore cells? /unconvinced |
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And modern studies would be better anyways because we have a lot more research capabilities then we did back then. Seeing that the ONLY reason why it is illegal now is because of those studies "back then" that later on were proven to be wrong. And uhm, yeah there's a ton of evidence to back up the claims of it being healthy for "regular people" as you like to put it. Also, im not trying to prove shit to you about Marijuana restoring cells, I dont have to prove anything because its been proven way before I even knew what weed was XD But I highly doubt anything is going to convince you about anything. All I can tell you is instead of being so stubborn about it, take the time to read a few books, whether or not you are convinced the source is "legit." Every lie has truth to it ;) I've said enough about this subject and I will make my leave now. Have a nice day. |
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Cocaine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This mentions what I was talking about. With any luck, it has a link to a propaganda poster somewhere in the article. Some of them are actually really hilarious in their caricatures of both black men and white women, if they weren't so infuriating. Quote:
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Further, everything I mentioned is actively unhealthy. Very unhealthy. Caffeine is (physically) addictive and can make you jittery. A diet high in fried foods can cause serious heart problems. Pot is just about as unhealthy as inhaling polluted air, and there are ways to use it that don't involve smoking it, negating the one side effect. Except when used with other substances or in special, extreme cases that don't even apply to the vast majority of the population, that's the only negative health effect associated with pot. Quote:
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You're giving me a reference to a book, written by a person who is obviously biased, who is probably using old information to back up his opinion. I could reference you to an anti-marijuana prop site that I know for a fact is unnecessarily biased, and I could say the same thing to you. I'm having trouble with this, because logistically some of your points just aren't adding up. You're not describing to me HOW marijuana "removes tar from a smokers lungs" (which in all seriousness I find ironic if this person isn't using a vaporizer), or how it "restores cells." If you can't tell me how any of this works, if you can't give me a link to a modern, independent, unbiased group who did a study on this...then yes, I will be stubborn in believing you. I'm saying this drug isn't the miracle drug. |
Oh and one more thing actually, the only PROVEN actual "side effect" of smoking Marijuana, is sleepyness, hunger and happiness.
As of yet, to date, there have been no studies that were able to find negative side effects of weed |
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