![]() |
Well I'm definitely for breastfeeding. I was,my sisters and brother were and my baby brother is doing it too. For those moms on the go I recommend a pump. Some moms work and can't stay with the baby. If you don't want to give your baby formula just pump a few bottles. The problem with that is that you don't know how much your baby will drink during the day.
|
Quote:
Men can run around without shirts on, and yet if a woman does that, she'd get in trouble. Breasts are meant to feed children. There's nothing sexual or inappropriate about that. The only reason seeing boobs feels like it's offensive is because in certain places, people (mostly men) have sexualized the idea of breasts over time. There are still countries today where women walk around without shirts. It's not a problem for them. Go figure. So I don't get the whole boobs-are-a-big-deal-and-totally-rude-to-show. That's just my opinion, personally. |
@Anhata, I think it kindof is sexual (not breast feeding, but breasts). There are several nerves in the nipples that are very sensitive and can trigger arousal. This can also happen in men, but to a much lesser degree (or it just makes them feel "weird").
Also, it seems that anything that directly involves child-rearing should be covered up (genitals, breasts, and baby bumps). |
"because it relates to child-rearing" is a dumb excuse to cover up anything, I think.
A lot of women actually don't have super-sensitive nipples, and I know a lot of guys that in fact do. The image of a shirtless man can definitely arouse women as much as the opposite, so even the fact that a bare chest could be taken as sexual isn't taken into equal consideration between the sexes, is it? |
But this isn't a debate on what's fair for men verus women, is it?
And breats are a sexual thing because that it what society has made it. If from the moment I'm born I live in a culture where things like that are found inappropriate, well chances are it's going to make me uncomfortable. If other countries have shirtless women, well that is good for them. That's another country, with a different culture, beliefs, and values. |
I support public breastfeeding. Sometimes I think the mothers could be a bit more discreet about it, I know there pervs out there that get off on that sort of stuff and that bugs me. I don't like to see creepy people staring at a mother feeding her baby the natural way.
Personally, it doesn't bother me. It's a natural process, and I wouldn't want the baby fed in some sort of dingy bathroom instead. Breastmilk is very good for the baby! That packaged stuff can't compare. Sometimes I find it not difficult to stare when some woman flaps it out infront of everyone, but I manage to be polite and just let it be. In America, our society seems to look on mammaries as serious naughty bits, and a lot of us grow up with similar view points - they shouldn't been seen in public. For some reason, breasts seem to attract the attentions of straight men and are viewed as sexual symbols and objects. Perhaps if we didn't strive to censor the world, it wouldn't be so weird and our society wouldn't be so covertly fixated on sex. Repression only makes it worse xD People who think of breastfeeding as sexual or arousing have some serious issues, in my eyes. |
@Amelia: Hey, I'm just saying that where you come from doesn't HAVE to define you. If you can see things from another point of view, hell, watch more documentaries with shirtless women or something, maybe breastfeeding wouldn't bother you anymore.
I just think people being offended or whatever are silly. And I didn't grow up in a thrid-world country, either. That is all. |
I don't see anything wrong with it. Most of the women I've seen breastfeeding in public are some what covered up. They have a blanket covering the breast and baby. It shouldn't be illegal to do it in public, I mean a baby got to eat.
It really not the mothers that are breastfeeding that is making it bad, it is how people see breast that are making it bad. Breast are usual seen as something sexual. If you take that train of thought and bring it over to what breast are really ment for, it turns negative. There is nothing wrong with breast, everywoman has them. I don't see why someone should be offended when a mother is trying to use her breast for what they are made for. In my mind if breastfeeding is illegal, than shouldn't girls showing to much clevage be illegal? What about woman running around without a bra and their nipple shows through? If exposing your breast in order to feed a child is wrong, than shouldn't exposing them for sexual attention wrong as well? |
Breastfeeding is fine in general.
Just don't do it in public. I don't think it's cute. I actually think it is gross. Yes, it is part of life. Just, do that at home. Your husband may like it, but not the general public, small children. Stop it. But I actually don't think it should be illegal. You don't like it? Don't look, walk away. That is what I do. |
I don't like it. At all. It's just a little inconsiderate in my opinion. No one really needs to see that, especially children. And while some may say it's not sexual, I think it is. A woman's breast is not the same as a man's chest.
If you want to breastfeed, do it in closed doors. Get a pump if you're going to be out and make a few bottles. |
Quote:
I didn't even really know women did that. |
Quote:
|
Quote:
Well, pot, meet kettle. How can you sit by and declare that a woman feeding her child is inconsiderate, when you basically just asked a woman to stay at home until her child is old enough to eat on its own? :| Honestly, such hypocrisy is astounding. These women don't do it because they want people to see it. They do it because their child needs to eat. I'm sorry if it's a newsflash to you that children eat, but, hey, it's a fact of life. Shocking, isn't it? Who ever heard of a child needing to feed, right? I honestly think that asking people to cater their actions to you, because you are prudish against nature, is more inconsiderate and rude than most things a person can do. If I need tampons should I be disallowed to go to a male clerk, because it might make him uncomfortable? Should I not read books or magazines about women's sexuality because it might make someone feel "icky"? Should I not talk about homosexuality because it'll make someone uncomfortable? Or, since everyone has different things which make them feel uncomfortable, should we leave it to the person at fault to deal with their fault, instead of burdening and hurting women and children? |
Quote:
If women go out for a few hours or whatnot, usually the baby doesn't have to eat every minute. But if they get to that point, don't just sit in the middle of a restaurant and pull open your blouse. Besides, how can you say that Double S wants people to "Cater" to her? She didn't say that breastfeeding disgusts her or that she hates the act. She just said that she thinks it is inconsiderate. She thinks-opinion. She is not going around to these women on the street saying "stop it-you are being inconsiderate!" Yes breastfeeding is nature. Animals do it, humans obviously can do it. But in our society when a woman's breast is sexual, most people don't want to see it. I know a lot of woman are well covered with blankets and that is fine I guess. I personally don't like breastfeeding in public either. Because a lot of people don't like to see public breastfeeding - they are burdening women and children? Not really. Double S isn't even saying this act should be illegal. She is just expressing her opinion on the act. She will get over it. We all will get over it. These women won't stop and we can't make them. |
Um, forgive me if I'm mistaken, but isn't public breastfeeding already illegal in most places? As in, it's lumped together with "public indecency" and women who attempt it are cited for it. It's perhaps more often looked-over than streakers and whatnot, and it occasionally makes the news if the arresting officer is particularly rude about it, but I'm pretty sure they aren't allowed to do that. So yeah, there is a way to prevent women from breastfeeding in public, and they're doing it currently.
And as far as what society finds 'sexual', the entire female body is sexualized, with or without clothes. Just about every woman's worth, at some point or another, is estimated based on her sexual attractiveness, and that determines how she's treated by society. Even with the breasts alone, if someone's going to stare, they're going to do it regardless of whether or not there's skin showing. To suggest that making women deny their infants food because they're in the wrong place for "that sort of thing" will keep their every feature from being sexualized in one way or another by someone is simply an attempt to cover up the true reason for it -- women are expected to be ashamed of their bodies, men are not. The end. |
There is nothing wrong about breastfeeding in public.
I think there are some public places that have designated areas for it. People should just mind their own business? ^^ It's when you're not in the proper area for it in public that becomes a problem. If there's no area for it, I suppose going to the bathroom wouldn't be such a bad idea. Problem in that instance is if you don't know where the area and/or bathroom is. D: I don't what's embarassing about it. Shouldn't be mothers be proud that they're actually giving their babies what's due? I know women who get frightened by the idea of it since it deforms their breasts for good or sth. O_o However~ I do think that you shouldn't be bringing out such young babies out in the public in the first place. Shouldn't they stay home where it's a far more safer environment than to bring them in public areas? Babies who are still breastfeeding aren't that strong yet and need to be kept in almost sterile conditions if possible. The only instance when they should be taken out is when it's time to see the doctor or some really inescapable family event. Otherwise, please let them stay home where it's safe. @[email protected] A mall is not a safe place. Whenever I see babies being breastfed, I don't mind much. Then I continue on with the thought of why did their parents have to bring them out bothers me. Worse I think I saw breastfeeding/bringing out of the super young baby once when I was commuting. AND THE VEHICLE WAS OPEN AIR. I began to worry about the kid's immune system. I have odd concerns I know. >_>; |
I don't think there's anything wrong with it! A mothers gotta do what a mothers gotta do ya know! When I notice somebody's doing it I just ignore it because I'm pretty sure the mom doesn't want stares. So if you see it don't get all "Why are you doing that in public?!" Just ignore it. :P
|
i don't have a problem w/ breastfeeding in public. i just don't want to see anything, as in the way of partial boob or whatever. i've heard that in switzerland or somewhere like that, they have special cafes for breastfeeding mothers. i think that's genius. not just b/c they're out of the public eye, so to speak, but b/c they're around people going through the same thing they are, so they can communicate w/ other mothers and stuff. that's a great idea.
|
Quote:
Quote:
|
Quote:
Of course babies eat. Everyone does. And you know what? So do grown people. I shouldn't have to be on a train and see a woman just pull down her shirt, or whatever she may do, and have the baby drink milk. It's not like no one is going to look when a woman pulls out her boob, whether they are perverted or just freaked out. There are pumps. Baby formula. They do not have the breastfeed in public. And my sister tried the pumps, and she said they didn't hurt. Not to meantion that my entire family was fed via formula, and we are all fine. As have my nephews & nieces, and they are more then healthy/smart. My half-sister was breastfed, and she's not in the best health at all. I'm not saying breastfeeding is unhealthy. But niethe is the formula. So, don't try to tell me that women have to feed their children in public using their breasts. It has nothing to do with what is natural, it's about caring about those who are around you. Reading a homosexual magazine is not the same as coming on the train with your lover and having sex. Tampons are advertised on TV. He will get over it. Breastfeeding? Not on TV. Well, nowhere available to those under 18. Quote:
Because women do not have to be confined to their homes/cars/whatever, and can be in the company of others. Bonding, and making friends! |
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
If we teach children that it's okay for mothers to breastfeed in public, then that is how it will be. We can change things, but you have to be willing. It is wrong that we have taught women to be ashamed of their bodies. It is wrong that we condemn them to bathrooms and cars and homes because their breasts are icky evil sexual things. It is insulting to tell them to hide themselves if they want to quiet a crying hungry infant. It is insulting to say, "No, we are on an airplane, go hide yourself in the toilet so your spawn will stop disturbing everyone else, don't you dare do it out here." Are we no better than cultures that cover up womens' hair, face, ankles, and arms? I don't think we are. We can't even let mothers feed their children. Because people think it's gross and unnatural and you should just do it some other way because I am offended that you would do something the way we have done it for centuries. |
Surely, breastfeeding is natural, but so is reproduction, and the act of sex.
And no one wants to see that. |
Quote:
Explain to me this: how is breastfeeding a sexual act? How is a child eating a sexual act? I'm glad your sister could pump, but your sister is not everyone. What is good for one person is not good for everyone. For someone women, pumping just doesn't work. For others, it is too painful to do. Formula is expensive and not as good for the child. |
Quote:
|
And I don't think Kris was saying Double S thought breastfeeding was a sexual act. She was saying that intercourse is a sexual act, which is why we're not okay with seeing it in public. It isn't because there's nudity, because there are ways around that which don't detract from the offensiveness of it in a public setting. It's not violent, it's (usually) not breaking any laws besides the obvious. So, there's no real comparison between sex and breastfeeding.
|
| All times are GMT. The time now is 01:21 AM. |