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Paranoid Doll 04-07-2012 06:32 PM



there was so much wonderful conversation to keep up with~
i feel like i did something uuber cool when i posted in
the thread, like it was magical ressurection or soemthing~

i don't know if i can comment on everthing said here,
mostly because i probably haven't had too similar experiences…

kirin;; your story about the little boy and the dad really
just makes me think about our world. how some don't ever
look into the scope of things… and how closeminded we can be~
your work with children is something i admire very very much! you
seem to really love your job, which is good, and it makes me really
happy to see that there's at least one person who works in alternate
child care who cares about catering to the children's needs~ that's
uuber imporant because your influence helps them to grow into whom
they are~ you have a lot of power in their lives, and i'm happy
that you're using it for the best <3

crow;; that's super cool what you do, and especially after what
they did to you~ you are quite the amazing person, if i might say~
you're generous in heart online and offline~ which is a lot more than
most people can say~ i deeply admire you especially after reading the
conversation between you, kirin, and lynn.


Lynn StarDragon 04-07-2012 08:58 PM

*Waves to Kirin*

Thanks again for the Mannies. >O<~<3 They make me feel all big and sexy.

Now I just need Mene to add in another Hair style for guys, then I'll be able to Role as Ansem, Seeker of Darkness, Lord and Master of all Heartless, and grade AA p0rNz star to boot.

I tell you, Ansem is pure walking sex. I should be so buff as this hunk of raw primal magnetism.

Oh well, I'll just be a Werepire for now. (Thank you Adventure Quest.)

@ Paranoid Doll: And thank you for posting in here, and helping to bring this thread back to the top, where I could see it. :3

Kirin Rosenbaum 04-07-2012 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Paranoid Doll (Post 1770593950)


there was so much wonderful conversation to keep up with~
i feel like i did something uuber cool when i posted in
the thread, like it was magical ressurection or soemthing~

i don't know if i can comment on everthing said here,
mostly because i probably haven't had too similar experiences…

kirin;; your story about the little boy and the dad really
just makes me think about our world. how some don't ever
look into the scope of things… and how closeminded we can be~
your work with children is something i admire very very much! you
seem to really love your job, which is good, and it makes me really
happy to see that there's at least one person who works in alternate
child care who cares about catering to the children's needs~ that's
uuber imporant because your influence helps them to grow into whom
they are~ you have a lot of power in their lives, and i'm happy
that you're using it for the best <3

crow;; that's super cool what you do, and especially after what
they did to you~ you are quite the amazing person, if i might say~
you're generous in heart online and offline~ which is a lot more than
most people can say~ i deeply admire you especially after reading the
conversation between you, kirin, and lynn.


Oh thank you. Your compliment gave me the warm fuzzies. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynn StarDragon (Post 1770594976)
*Waves to Kirin*

Thanks again for the Mannies. >O<~<3 They make me feel all big and sexy.

Now I just need Mene to add in another Hair style for guys, then I'll be able to Role as Ansem, Seeker of Darkness, Lord and Master of all Heartless, and grade AA p0rNz star to boot.

I tell you, Ansem is pure walking sex. I should be so buff as this hunk of raw primal magnetism.

Oh well, I'll just be a Werepire for now. (Thank you Adventure Quest.)

@ Paranoid Doll: And thank you for posting in here, and helping to bring this thread back to the top, where I could see it. :3

Oh glad you like them.

Lynn StarDragon 04-08-2012 01:01 AM

Yes~

I think I will show them off for the next few days. <3

Kirin Rosenbaum 04-08-2012 01:16 AM

Some times I do nakie time in the mannies

Lynn StarDragon 04-08-2012 01:47 AM

Everyone needs Nakie times to recharge their creative juices.

Kirin Rosenbaum 04-08-2012 02:09 AM

Yep.

ProfessorSinister 04-08-2012 02:11 AM

What a wonderful discussion topic! Kudos~

Personally I have a problem with gender identity. I am transgendered myself, so there are a lot of times when I feel uncomfortable because I have to keep up with society's expectations of me based on what I look like physically. There are a lot of times where I'm spoken to or treated differently because of it and I am one of those who love when I'm "one of the guys" because to me, that's how I'm supposed to be.

Avatar sites became more appealing to me immediately after I came to identify with myself as a trasgendered person. Instead of hiding it, I embraced it. Anyone who wanted to know, and were nice about it, I finally felt comfortable enough with explaining. And I was met with something unexpected, when I was open with people about it and I showed confidence and resolve in who I was, they responded back with acceptance and understanding.

But there were those who felt like I was hiding. Like I was trying to trick people into thinking I was someone else only to flip the switch on them later. That was horrid for me. I would love nothing more than for my outside to resemble how I feel on the inside. I would love nothing more than to not feel like I'm wearing a costume, so it kinda hurt for people to assume that's all I wanted.

on another chat site, I started to create items and clothing for male avatars, feeling that there was a lack of clothing for those of us that aren't into wearing baggy clothing and bland colors or even certain colors just because we're male. Just because I feel like I am one way mentally, doesn't mean I have to only like "manly things". I've always been one to not like how something was supposedly designated to one specific demographic. This is for boys, girls wear this, this is for black people, this is for whites. Why can't things be just that? If you like it, you like it, if you're not hurting anyone or doing anything fudamentally wrong, then why not?

Kirin Rosenbaum 04-08-2012 02:17 AM

I had a kid in my Sunday School class who at ten years old came out transgender. He told his parents one night at dinner that he felt more like a girl. He was accepted.

Lynn StarDragon 04-08-2012 02:43 AM

*Hugs ProfessorSinister*

I'm sorry not everyone was so accepting of you, but I'm also glad you've been given the chance to design items for other avatar sites. I feel the same about things being things. Humans are complicated and we can like anything we want, so long as we aren't hurting others while doing it.

o.o! Wow, Kirin, that's pretty amazing. I hope the kid has a happy life, and zer parents aren't just humoring zer through a 'phase zie will grow out of'.

Kirin Rosenbaum 04-08-2012 02:44 AM

No the parents are awesome. Totally accepting.

ProfessorSinister 04-08-2012 02:57 AM

Even though I had people totally unaccepting, I'm glad I at least got it out there. Like a weight off my shoulders. As for telling my parents, I kinda have the type that will just ignore something they think may not necessarily be wrong, but it's something they don't want to deal with. So it's like I say something, they brush it off, or call it a phase, or hormonal imbalance or something, then if I bring it up again, they act as if they didn't hear me.

My mom has even taken to buying me deliberately girly things, things she knows I don't like because of the style or what have you, but it's her passively asking me to continue my life the way she wants. She's a wonderful person, my best friend, this is just something she just can't process enough for me to feel accepted. It's a big reason I've lived the life I have up until now.

I always love hearing about accepting families. That always makes me smile and in a way. I feel I'm lucky. At least when I did say something I wasn't immediately shunned, hurt, or kicked out or some other horrible scenario from many a coming out story.

Kirin Rosenbaum 04-08-2012 03:03 AM

My mom told me my being bisexual was a phase. This kid and his sisters were all adopted and the parents were always encouraging the kids to come to them with anything.

Lynn StarDragon 04-08-2012 03:20 AM

My mom has had to work with people who are not 'Hetero-normative', and as such she's always been open and supportive of me doing what makes me happy. She does worry if I'm fully informed about something, but otherwise, she's happy if I'm happy.

My dad is the same way, though he's from an utterly different background. . .

Kirin Rosenbaum 04-08-2012 03:24 AM

Haven't told my dad. Though my brother and his girlfriend are both very accepting.

ProfessorSinister 04-08-2012 03:34 AM

I'm just glad my friends were a lot more accepting if my family isn't. They're like my other family anyhow, so it's awesome. Really when I finally told everyone of them, most of them just said "Oh I already kinda guessed that."

Kirin Rosenbaum 04-08-2012 03:40 AM

I knew it with the kid in my Sunday School class.

Lynn StarDragon 04-08-2012 04:10 AM

x3

Then I'm glad for you, ProfessorSinister.

<.< *hugs Kirin too, for being awesome.*

ProfessorSinister 04-08-2012 04:32 AM

I'm glad too. Coming to terms with things really takes a weight off my shoulders, even if no one accepted me ever, it still was worth it. Just for the well being within myself, coming out and telling people kinda solidified it. No more running away and hiding it. Even if I have to live my life a certain way, at least everyone knows who I am.

Lynn StarDragon 04-08-2012 04:43 AM

That's inspiring. :3 I really have no other words for it, but I am truly happy for you, and that you were able to have that kind of resolution.

ProfessorSinister 04-08-2012 06:08 AM

]I hope other people can too. The world would be a much better place if people just left others to their own devices. The golden rule applies a lot here. -nods wisely-

Lynn StarDragon 04-08-2012 06:48 AM

*Sigh*

Now if only more people know the true golden rule, and didn't think it meant that, 'those with the most gold rule'--I'm speaking about real life wealth, not Mene currency, for anyone skimming this chat. @[email protected]

World could be so much better than it is. . .

Kirin Rosenbaum 04-08-2012 05:05 PM

Awww I just a good human being.

Paranoid Doll 04-09-2012 09:39 PM



awww, no problem lynn~! o u o like i said, i'm just
glad that crow introduced me and i posted when i did~
it seems like we're getting quite a few new posters~
> u <
i want some bishounen hair! like the shaggy asian
mop top that my brothers have…. just not as choppy
as what mene's been giving us. o n o

and no problem kirin~!! {/huggles} > u < it's uuber
cool what you do <3

and thank you for sharing your story sinister… {/hugs}
i totally agree with the points you've brought up~ <3
and i'm glad that your family was and is being supportive~

when i brought it up to my mum, she wasn't shunning me at
first, but when ever the topic comes up, she gets rather
tight lipped… i think that she thinks that i was just
going through a phase… but i'm not, it's my life. o n o

and i know that feeling, lynn. o n o still, we can all
just spread the love <3 that's why i'm becoming a graphic
designer~ so one day i can get my messages and pictures
out there~ i entered a poster design contest with the theme
'you can create tomorrow' and the theme was a world of
tolerance~ where gays could be themselves, where a transgendered
person would just be beautiful in every way~ = u =
i'm in the national finals, not sure if i've won yet, but
here's to hoping they'll listen to my story and help make
tomorrow's world even betterrr~

and kirin, you are just too awesome~

/long post is long, sorry~ > u <U


Kirin Rosenbaum 04-09-2012 09:41 PM

I don't always feel awesome.


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