Menewsha Avatar Community - The 'I Dislike Twilight With Great Intensity' Club (For those who dislike Twilight. Note that you had to read at least one or more of the books, and spoilers for the entire series WILL be mentioned. You have been warned.)

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I know, right?

I mean, even the dance scene wasn't as pretty.

AND MY GOD I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP USING VAMPIRES AS SYNONYMS FOR SEX.

I mean... Ugh. Damn you, Anne Rice!

That's what they were created for, originally. The fact they ended up spawning mindless drivel in the form of books was a complete accident, but I can assure you Bram Stoker is mortified.

Bram Stroker is dead because he saw the future and killed himself.

Well you would think werewolves would be more of a personification for sex.. At least they have pumping blood to get certain things up... Vampires don't.... <.<; How did Edward impregnate Bella?

Like I said- Mysteries.

And true, werewolves SHOULD be the personification for sex. I mean, they're all animal instinct and passion, there's the whole dogs have huge -censor- thing, THEY'RE ALIVE, they're wild, they pretty much fit the bill for the whole wildman fantasy.

Biut vampires supposedly represent the smooth and slick fantasy, guys who are civilized, look good in suits, expected to dress nice and be all suave. So, they're the civilized, less wildly passionate versions. The more 'human', you could say.

Hm.. yet many women (so I've noticed) prefer the wild and untamed... Or at least they're shown in movies to be like that. If it's so much as preferring men with wind-swept hair. Bleh. Either way Robert Pattinson is not model material xDD

....And there we go xD my brain just died, I had more arguements and topics to bring up but..

I just finished New Moon last night. I'm working on a theory that Bella may have died in the beginning of the first book (when Tyler's Van 'almost' hit her) and the rest of the series is her brain dying and processing information in a unique way.

Other than that, I liked Jacob. Before he turned into a douche.

Bella's moping made me want to shoot myself in the foot.

I'm taking a break before I tackle Eclipse.

xDD Seriously, Del. It's like all of your rants just make me laugh my ass off.

As I refuse to read the books or anything of it, I can't entirely comment. I let my friend Michelle decide whether or not I would read it. Like you, Del, she decided to read all of it and such to be able to argue without people going "Bitch, read the book." Now, I like reading Anne Rice's vampire chronicles, which Michelle knows, so when she told me "Bella is whinier than Louis" I immediately decided to not read it. Reading Interview with a Vampire made me aggravated unless he wasn't whining or was quoting someone else because all Louis does is bitch. He is the emo vampire; the one I wish would kill himself already. So, if Bella is worse than him AND the books are more from her standpoint... No, I refuse to read it.

Then I'm seen the actress who plays her in other movies and she's just bleh. It's like the same role over and over again with a new name and a new background story. I liked her in some movie I saw on Lifetime, but she still acted the same way she did in this horror flick I saw. The actor for Jacob made me think of a pretty boy Frankenstein (saw him in Valentine's Day), so trying to imagine him as a werewolf makes me cock my head to the side.

I'm also really stuck on the Anne Rice vampires, they make sense to me.

I unno if it has been mentioned, since I am not reading all of those pages especially since I bet this is a post something and leave deal for me, but a friend of mine told me the reason the vampires sparkle is because the author had a dream of a vampire standing over her bed who sparkled. So, I guess that's why Edward stood over Bella's bed creepily? Maybe that's her kink? Maybe she thinks that's romantic in some way?!!?!? I mean, I understand if they knew each other forever and she was sick or something... but just randomly? Sounds... creepy. I would be CREEPED OUT by anyone who just watched me sleep O.o

I also don't get the whole squealy fandom for... any of the three main folks I've seen. I do not find any of them attractive.

My friend said when his friend went to see it in theaters with like... his sibling? or something, there were these chicks who would touch themselves and moan EVERY TIME Edward popped up or took his shirt off or something D: that disturbs me.

I really just think it's an overrated fad O.o LESTAT FOR THE WIIIIIN XDD

Sorry if any of it was bashing *shrug*. Just stating shit and disappearing xD ha ha.

Have fun discussing :D :sarcasm:

Haha, love it, Aru.

Something that bothers me about Jacob other than his perpetual baby-face... is that it's hard not to think of SharkBoy. He's the same actor, for Sharkboy and Lavagirl the movie..

I agree with Lestat for the win, they do make a lot more sense.. However I want to read more of the chronicles I've only read Vampire Lestat and Interview with a Vampire. Louis is awfully whiney. "Blah blah blah, not human any more. Whine whine, Lestat's fault.. But I love Lestat" Whut?!

Bella is more: "I don't like my dad, he's a loser *whine* My mother's crazy and needs to have a life with her knew husband/boyfriend *whine* I'm going to torture myself like a good martyr. I'm also going to be a good, incapable woman. I'm attracted to danger, but Edward won't have me! I wanna be a vampire for no good specific reason other than I don't want to grow old and die!"

And Louis is pissy cause he can't grow old and die.

Oh! I don't know if I've pointed out any of the racism in the Twilight series. Yet the only perfect creatures are the vampires that have a ridiculous amount of money and are ridiculously pale and ~*perfect*~ They own an island called "Island Esme" for pete's sake! However I think they bring in a vampire from.. Spain? and she's(?) porcelain pale too.

So only white people with an obscene amount of money can be perfect.. is what I kind of got from that. Then they're aloud to whine and bitch cause they hide a terrible secret despite how well off they are.

That is true...And what about this idea you have to be pale to be beautiful? Does Smeyer want everyone to become Vitamin-D defficiant staying out of the sun to lose all their colour so they can be "beautiful"?

Now, about the vampires being perfectly dressed and immaculate being a metaphor for sex thing, Bram Stoker was writing in the nineteenth century. Everyday outdoor wear at that time was a suit, what we would call evening dress today. That set the standard for vampires. It wasn't that they were immaculately neat in Stoker's time, just that they were normal-looking, yet lustful things.

Oooh.. Vitamin D deficient might explain all of the emo and super whiney-ness.

I believe I read at least half of Bram Stoker's Dracula.. and from what I remember.. Dracula wasn't all that super handsome. He was marked for having hairy hands (knuckles, palms, etc).. At least that's what I remember.

Besides, were they lustful or bloodlusty..? That's where the interpretation could have also gotten muddled. In my opinion anyway.

Had to cast my vote... And apparently throw Bella above Edward a bit on the grand scale of Hatred. :O

I hate her. Honestly. Weak, weak, weak, WEAK. I hate weak female protagonists... they always send the wrong messages to readers. Edward's an ass, but she's the one that's too blind to see his ass-like tendencies and move on to someone who's half-decent.

Lustful, as in sex. Bloodsucking was originally a metaphor for it.

And yes, I agree, weak female protagonists suck. I mean, if they're physically weak that's fine, as long as they're intelligent or sensible. Problem is, Bella's just...stupid, weak, spineless, etc. She has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. I hate her to no end.

And while in the beginning of books, the protagonist can be weak... As long as in the end they grow.

Bella didn't grow.

SHE METAMORPHED INTO A FUCKING VAMPIRE.

BECAUSE OF WEAKNESS. Okay, being afraid to die is natural; but deciding to avoid that fact completely instead of learning to accept it, and throwing away her family just for a lover she'll probably leave as she grows older? Ditz...

Ahem. Ah. Yes. Right. Of course. I shall dirty my language appropriately :)

Good!

By teh way... My birthday is coming in two days.

AH EXPECT PRESENTS OR MONEH, EITHER WAY.

I, unlike a certain type of poultry, ENJOY PRESENTS and MY DATE OF BIRTH.

I would just like everyone to know that I finished the series.

I died a little inside. I wrote a 6-page overview of the series, and then graded in on a rubric.

She scored a 44%.

44%? I think you were being generous there...

And happy birthday in advance, Phoenix ^^

I hate jacob because he and his stupid brothers think they are so sexy.
I hate edward because he is lame,shallow and stupid. Plus sparkling?Seriously?
And I hate bella in the movie because the actor looks super evil and a jerk, and its annoying.:rawrmayor:

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Originally Posted by Mariann (Post 1767628369)

44%? I think you were being generous there...

And happy birthday in advance, Phoenix ^^

I was actually surprised that it was that low. I thought that she would have at least scored a D. She had highest marks in writing fundamentals (grammar, spelling, vocabulary. She got marked off for using the word "chagrin," "pokerface," and "deliberate" far too much, as well as excessive hyphens for reasons other than basic emphasis) with a saddening 11/20. Her lowest scores were in plot and character development. Middle of the road was pacing... with a 9.

I graded her on individual books and then tallied them up. >>

I would post the entire overview here, but like I said its about 6-pages long.

Her grammar is terrible, so I would've scored her lower on the writing bit...So's her writing style.

I didn't count style because its something that was conditioned out of me as an art student. You can't really judge on style, even though I loathe her writing style as well. Regardless of that, she still scored a D- on technical skill.

We all judge on style ("I don't like that style" or "I like that style"), so more accurately you didn't grade on style.