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Boobical_Ribs 08-31-2010 09:21 PM

Squee.
I love this show.
I was missing the first season

Scribbled Lore 08-31-2010 09:26 PM

Eh? Show? What show?

Boobical_Ribs 08-31-2010 10:01 PM

Charmed.
:D

ljosberinn 09-01-2010 01:24 AM



Hey Scribbled! I dunno, people seem to generally think I'm at least not straight. I've just given up on labels completely, because I can never find one that fits. I am a human being, and I like people, and that's short and simple enough for me. I've never really fit in with the typical lgbt kids, but I don't fit with the typical straight kids either, so I'll just find the weirdos and hang out with them instead. Good enough for me. :)



Scribbled Lore 09-01-2010 01:28 AM

Ooh, I've seen Charmed before.

*waves* Yeah, that's sort of how I feel but the label remains important to me because I'm still working out the kinks of my identity. I figure that when I get myself mostly figured out I won't need the labels anymore and I'll be ready, emotionally and mentally, to abandon them. In the mean time I get to struggle through what it means to be bisexual to me and whether that makes me inherently transphobic. (I don't think it does but I don't identify with "pansexual," so.. )

Boobical_Ribs 09-01-2010 01:30 AM

Lore.
Yup.
Hmm.
I have school tomorrow.

Scribbled Lore 09-01-2010 01:32 AM

I have tomorrow off from work. *relieved* If I had to go into work tomorrow I'd be super stressed out right about now. :sweat:

ljosberinn 09-01-2010 01:37 AM



You don't have to be transphobic just because you're not attracted to trans people. And that sounds like a sane way to think about it.. I spent years trying to figure out all these labels myself. Part of me thinks now that it was such a waste of time, but a part of me is glad because I learned a lot while figuring things out.

I have to endure my grandmother tomorrow. It wouldn't be so bad if she weren't really bitter about me not spending more time with her. And her really hating my haircut/colours. A, I'm 22, I'm enjoying life, I don't think it's really that selfish that I'd rather spend time with friends than my grandparents, even though I love them, and B, it's one thing if you don't like it, but you don't have to spend five minutes telling me how terribly ugly it is. Ugh. I can just imagine trying to explain the way I think to her now.. stuff like gender and sexuality or just the way I see other people and the world. ...actually, I should stop trying to imagine it, or I'll just get anxious and ticked off. Should probably just try to sleep so that I'll have enough energy tomorrow.



Scribbled Lore 09-01-2010 01:42 AM

I worry about being considered transphobic because I always hear or see comments from people who are pansexual that have the attitude that they're pansexual because they have the capacity to love everyone and not just people of the two "regular" genders. Along the lines of if you're not gay or straight then you have to be pansexual or you're a hater.

Working through labels really forces you to do a lot of introspective thinking and it's something I enjoy even as I struggle with my thoughts.

Aw! I'm so sorry to hear about your grandmother. *offers hugs* I'm sure your hair looks just fine. You probably should get some extra rest - sometimes grandparents are a lot to deal with emotionally and mentally. Very taxing.

Boobical_Ribs 09-01-2010 01:57 AM

Im pretty sure im pansexual.
But i suppose i wont know until i actually have a "real" girlfriend.
You know?

Scribbled Lore 09-01-2010 02:34 AM

I think I understand what you're saying, Ribs. Not sure but maybe! :XD

scholar 09-01-2010 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ljosberinn (Post 1768182057)


I've been to Gay Pride quite a few times, though that's not saying much since where I live, there is I think the highest percentage of straight-identified people at the parade in the world, or something. At least there is one of the highest participation rates in the world. Never been on a float though. And then I've been to a few clubs and been part of the LGBT community at uni, though never a very active member.

scholar, I'm the same in that it wasn't until I really started studying this stuff that I realised it was some kind of a deal.. I never really thought about it till I was.. 18 I think, because at that point I got a bit confused in my sexuality as well as my gender identity, and I felt a sort of pressure from society to find a label to identify myself with. So I started studying these things and it's not until recently (I'm 22) that I realised labels are really crap, and I don't need to find one to identify with - something I've been trying to do for years and never succeeded in doing. :roll:

Edit: By the way, I love the name of this thread. QUILTBAG - awesome. :lol:



Nice to hear I'm not the only one! Take your story and add about ten years to it, though. :P It wasn't until recently that I realized why I was so fussy about my best friend's boyfriends, and why I got really angry when she told me about the horrid experience she'd had losing her virginity. It was kind of like being hit over the head with a rubbery hammer to realize that it was because I didn't just love her as a best friend, but really was in love with her.... years after I got married.

ljosberinn 09-01-2010 10:23 AM



Scribbled: Aw man. I can never understand how people that are open enough to be pansexual can be closed minded enough to think that way. I hate that whole "holier than thou" attitude. I mean.. sure, if I am to be honest, I think I'm pretty lucky to be so open-minded, and I often wish everyone thought the same way. But in reality, I do accept that people have different tastes. All I can do is hope that at least people are not labelling themselves as one thing just because they're too close minded to try anything else (and it doesn't sound like you are). I'm sorry you've had to get comments like that. :/

I love sitting down and trying to figure myself out, I do it regularly and write a blog post down usually where I pour out my thoughts. It helps get them in order, and talking about things to others really helps to figure things out, even if you're the only one doing the talking. :lol: I think it's healthy, taking a really good look at yourself every now and then, to get to know yourself better. No matter how often you do it too, because we're always changing as we experience new things, so we're never quite the same person.

And hehe, thanks. *hug* I think my hair rocks, so I don't really care what other people think. *grins* She's just a little bitter because she feels like she doesn't get enough attention from her children and grandchildren - I guess she's lonely, even though she always seems to be meeting people. Ah well. It'll be fine spending a few hours with her.


Ribs: I dunno. I was for sure able to tell I fancied girls and boys before I started dating, and now I know I like everyone else as well without having been involved with anyone outside the gender binary. Sure, I've come to the conclusion now that I prefer sex with guys to girls, but I still fancy them.


scholar: Oh, wow. I've heard a few stories similar to yours. What did you do after you found out? If you'll allow me to be nosy.. :3



Boobical_Ribs 09-01-2010 09:01 PM

Pat.
Ahh i see.

scholar 09-02-2010 03:57 AM

@ljosberrin: Nothing. I've never told her. The realization itself was a weight off my mind, that there wasn't anything weird about me -- because initially the awkwardness I felt around her seemed to be our friendship dying -- but that I was just in love with her. I'm pretty sure I'm polyamorous, so I've got no problems emotionally (relatively speaking, of course. :P). And I know she's about as straight as they come, so I'll just stand beside her and make sure she has as happy a life as she can.

Scribbled Lore 09-02-2010 09:42 AM

Aw, Scholar, it's the stuff they make bad queer romance novels out of!

But more seriously poly too? Awesome! Unfortunately I can't seem to keep the poly thread alive and thriving. I was beginning to suspect that CZ and I were the only ones on Menewsha who identified that way.

ljosberinn 09-02-2010 11:53 AM



Aw, yes, Scribbled has got it right.. it's got all the ingredients for a queer romance drama. >.<
I think polyamory is fascinating, and definitely something I support though I've never been in a poly relationship. I can't identify with it at the moment though since I'm just completely against getting into a serious relationship at all, poly or no. Though I think if I were to get tricked into a relationship, if I found someone really special, I would probably have to insist we try keeping it open.
I wasn't aware there was a poly thread on Mene..



Scribbled Lore 09-02-2010 01:03 PM

It's practically brand new and unused but here's the link to it: Thread o' Polyamory

I couldn't come up with a better title but I'm sure that'll change in time.

Estrella 09-02-2010 04:50 PM

I don't know if I could REALLY be considered bisexual since I don't think I would ever want a RELATIONSHIP with a woman.
More like I'd like to have RELATIONS with women.

But I also just may not have met the girl who interests me in more than the physical way. :o

ljosberinn 09-02-2010 05:16 PM



I used to think women were too complicated and didn't want to be in relationships with them. Then I realised men were way complicated as well, so now I don't want relationships with anyone. :P

Also, the link in your sig doesn't seem to work, Estrelle. It just links me back to tinyurl.com, I have to change the link in the address bar to get to the charity.



Estrella 09-02-2010 05:24 PM

Eff. Okay, thanks. I'll try to fix it.

And yeah, I have tried a couple of relationships with men and nothing's panned out.
But I live in a bitty town with people who have bitty minds. xP
I think I've met only one other bisexual in my hometown.
And I love her to pieces but she's a bit promiscuous for my taste.
We're good friends, though her husband hates me. Or hated me when we were in high school. :lol:

Edit: I think I fixed it. :yes:

MyLostEmpireKing 09-02-2010 06:26 PM

Hi

I recently came out to my best friend... as gay :P It's hard sometimes because I just wanna be normal, but what can I do? Cool thread, BTW :)

ljosberinn 09-02-2010 06:36 PM



Hey King. What's keeping you from being "normal"? Anyway, I don't recommend it.. it takes all the fun out of life!

Estrella, yep it works now! And too bad about the limited uh, selection. I live in a small city that's very open minded and full of beautiful people part of the year, the rest I live in London which is just full of all kinds of meat people.



Scribbled Lore 09-02-2010 11:25 PM

Welcome to the thread! :)

Estrelle my identity is "queer" but my orientation is "bisexual" so I would totally count you as bi even if all you want to do with women is have sex. *shrugs* It's all good.

And what's not normal about being gay? :XD I'm so not normal for reasons not related to my sexuality. Yeah.

ljosberinn 09-02-2010 11:29 PM



Once upon a time I wanted to be normal. Then I realised how boring and restrictive it is. I don't think I could ever go back to that now that I've tried being free. Sure it's easy and comfortable, but just so not worth it.




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