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I know. I meant give them a choice between the EI and commons. :o
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Yeah... I honestly don't have a problem with the amount of commons. Not everyone has 60k to spend on commons. :/ I don't know many who do. I'd say leave it the way it is...
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I'm all for fewer commons but please keep them half price. For me anyways, the half price lets me buy them......and try them out to test there functionality without really losing much if I choose to sell them back later o.0
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I agree that when the event comes close everyone keep they gold inside, trying to save up for the event commons which is alright cause you get it half price as it would be after the event. But I dont think it gonna change anything even if you put the price to full with less item cause people would still want it but it could easily take out the specaility in Event commons tho cause it would be just like new item release there be nothing specail about it =(
I think it better to just keep the things at half price but less of the items would be good cause when there is loads some people would want to get them all which most of the time impossible however much we save up we end up with 0 gold and no one want to buy the items in exchange its mostly dead same as other forums durin event time :P so when there is less items there be less rush to get more gold and to keep the currency flowing around mene only the menewshan could change they stuff to spend more gold on exchange |
All stores half off idea; yes yes yes. Though if this were to happen, I would really only be interested in having Emporio Palazzo half off because the cost of that store is pure :gonk::cry: Just getting those ridiculously priced dresses at half off would be amazing! And I think it would be a fun surprise for the users. Like a 24 hour sale that just pops up randomly. Super fun idea.
About users mentioned in the first post; being one of those users mentioned in the first post, I will admit that I've been around since pretty much the very beginning of the site and I don't need to quest for older items. I could if I wanted to because contrary to popular belief of all old users having every rare, I don't. I don't own a single Patty's 07 item, and I only own two VDay 07 items as well. While I have the benefit of not having to quest for the bigger items, my quest to own the commons is just as big a deal as those users who are trying to own the rare items that I'm fortunate enough to have already as an older user. Because when I finish my quest to own all of the female/unisex items, more will continue to be released constantly as the site continues to grow. And I don't have an unlimited supply of items to sell off. When my items are gone, so is my funding and I'll have to start playing games and posting and doing everything that other users have to do to earn gold. I understand that users who are questing tend to quest for limited edition items which they may never own even if they can afford it because availability is limited, but I don't see how that means my quest is any less important. I support fewer commons per event because it means less distractions from my quest, which I find helpful. Also, the comments mentioned weren't actually in response to why the exchange is stagnant. It was more off-topic chatter spawned from a discussion about hoarding gold. What Bartuc said here :yes: Alternate ways to earn gold/marketplace; I did mention in the other topic that I would fully support a marketplace as a way of revitalizing the exchange. In my opinion, I feel that the price guide is dated and doesn't allow for the natural inflation of the value of rare items on the site as it's not frequently updated. Its become more of a hinderance than a guide because so many users believe that the price listed in the guide is what an item is worth. A marketplace would allow real time values of all of the rare items on the site, as well as revolutionize the buy/sell process amongst users. There is so much that a marketplace could do to bring the site out of a slump. That said though, the site doesn't have the available resources to have a marketplace coded that would be functional and efficient. Also, seeing as I don't play the games (one, I find them to be quite monotonous and boring, and two, they're niche games), I get my income mainly from selling off my extra items and posting. Aside from selling, posting, and playing games, there are few other ways to earn gold on Menewsha, and unfortunately I don't think that the users have come up with any innovative ideas on how to earn gold in a new way that the staff would approve of. If we as a whole could come up with interesting new ways to make gold that don't include games (including a random gift/daily gift thing) or posting, I would be all for it. Until then, we're stuck doing it the old fashioned way. Gold cap; the gold cap was changed back in August as a kind of test run, but from what most of the users in here have said so far, it does seem like kind of a fruitless venture for the site. It did nothing to promote the use of the forums like it was meant to, and it's deterred a lot of the new users from wanting to be active here because they have no way of earning gold quickly. It ought to be raised back to 500g as it was before. I have no idea if this would bring the exchange out of it's slumber, and I kind of doubt it would, but I think things would be less stale. More non-event common updates; fully support. I think that even though I feel there are too many commons released during the events, I'm so bored with waiting in between events for new items to come out. What happened to common sets that corresponded with the monthly event items, or the random themed updates that didn't go with an event, but were just meant to be fun? I would support a small release of new commons every other month or so to keep things fresh. Just one set of items, a male and a female version. What Kultura said here :yes: So many pages. I don't know how I managed to get through all of those pages this early in the morning DX ---------- damnit. i previewed my post to make sure it would work, and when I clicked submit it added all the back slashes DX |
Wow, so many posts and pages to read through. @[email protected];; So, sorry if I'm going to be repeating some sentiments here, but I would indeed like fewer commons during events. =O That, instead of putting the items at full price. @[email protected];; Will elaborate more once I find the time to read through the current posts. ^^;;
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I believe that we should have less items but still at half price because like Ace said, we look forward to that perk at events.
I haven't been spending gold unless it is event time but that is just because real life is so busy that event times are the times I say, "Okay, don't bother me, I am doing my hobby!" If offering a lot of choices during the events for event commons just takes too much time, don't work yourselves crazy, I think we would be okay with fewer choices and then maybe more people can buy them all. |
Hmm I personally choose leave it the way it is because that was the only option I liked that was up there.
I have read through the posts and I am surprised that no one has suggested that since now that the events are non coded and we no longer post for event hearts/bones/whatever the theme was that all the items cost less. I have been a part of this site for awhile. I super enjoyed the events of the past. You had to chat to earn __(whatever) which would then be used to EI's or commons. All with all that chatting you would earn gold. So when we sadly had to change to non coded events because of issues with money we now have events that you have to buy everything. Well ok that's not so bad just need to save up more right? Ok, play more games. Then peoples were not happy with that and the cap got placed because it lowered chatting (play the games). But you do not make as much chatting as you do games. Now I will admit games on here really aren't my thing but I would at least attempt to remember to to play them as much as possible when the cap was 500, I rarely play them now at all. I really do not think that has helped at all. The games is where many including myself would go to save up money for whatever in the exchange CI's, EI's, SNG's, commons, and art(even though that's kinds a different section). Though I do sell CI's. But at the start of my time here, game gold was what I used to buy commons. If you can make 1k a day (using the mule-san) in the games you could get all sorts of commons, which was great. Ah, I rambled a bit. Hmm, back to the point I haven't really got to. Yes, the events have changed. Yes, the past events were super fun and sadly we no longer can have those. Ok. The new non coded events have super fun stuff as well. But you have to buy EI's if you want extras or if you want a complete set cause you aren't able to participate in all the sticky threads. (I don't write and I rarely draw cause I think most of my stuff stinks, moving on.) Also you have to completely buy the commons as well no help like the past. So why not lower the price of the event commons all together? Why not make them 25% of the cost they would be? Or raise the game cap? Hmm is there a way, cause I know you all want there to be chatting as well as game play and exchange buying, to say ah you have posted X amount of times today so instead of a 250gold game cap its 500 gold. Ah you have posted XX amounts of times so game cap is 1000 gold. You would have posting, game playing, and more gold so more can be spent in the exchange. Which would then lead to a healthier movement of prices? (These are just my rambling may not make much sense thoughts wise. I apologizes in advance for any grammar/spelling issues that may be in the above rambling. Thank you *bow*) |
Hm.. this is an interesting dilemma. I originally voted for fewer commons at half price. But now that I think about it, not having enough gold to buy all those items is what really keeps me on during event time. That struggle to get everything gives me a big reason to enjoy the community together as we all try to get those items.
I wouldn't like items during events being full-priced. It kinda defeats the purpose of trying to get the items during event time. |
I personally don't hoard gold for events. If I have the gold, great, if not, oh well. I end up buying the few items that I REALLY like and REALLY want. But I do understand that many people do hoard for events. I've seen it happen many times during my years here on Mene. I see people hoard gold and buy many multiples of items just to sell them off later. (In that case, it stimulates the economy a little bit but it isn't enough to counter the hoarding and the slowness).
Maybe you could have the items regular price except the last page of items. There are always about 5-7 pages of commons during events and they always go up in price. The items could be regularly priced until you get to the last "special" page. The most expensive items will be cut in half just for the event? |
I think you should leave it as-is, especially the EIs. I know this is centered around commons though, so I'll keep my post to that. People do hoard gold for the events, which does cause slower activity within the exchange, but I don't think everyone intends to buy every single common released for half price. Most just get their favorites, perhaps in a couple colors.
It's probably better to keep things as they are, for if some don't have the gold they'll have to pose more during event time to get it. My perception is probably skewed as I'm not questing, though. It is probably harder on those who try to save gold for their wanted items and events. *shrugs* I don't think anything should change. |
The reason I love events are the commons. I try to buy as many at the lower price before they move to shops.
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Haven't fully read everything yet, but I'd like to reply to some of the previous suggestions made~
1. As stated earlier, I'm for the fewer commons at half-price suggestion. I also like how this ties in with the fact that less commons to pixel/recolor = more time spent elsewhere. ^^ 2. Above can be counteracted by more commons released without an event accompanying it at different times in the year. Simplicity brought out a valid point that this hasn't been done in almost a year. It would be nice to go back to those updates. Quote:
Anyhows, I can only speak for myself as one of the quoted posters on the front page, but I think it's unfair to say that we "tend to not feel the pressure to buy older EIs and CIs". Bartuc is right; I do not have everything, and am still questing for other things as well. ^^;; That's a big broad statement that's partly unfounded. Although, you did mention you over-generalized that statement, so I will discard that. XP In regards to your edit though, and your previous statements I did not manage to quote, I believe that reducing the amount of event commons WILL help a new user. Sure, us older members are keener to hoard commons. But new members aren't exempt from "commons buying", really. If any clothes are 50% off, it doesn't matter if you're an old or a new member, you will be more inclined to buy them at that certain time so that you can save money for something else. Whether you use the money to buy more commons later on, or save them for some rares in the future, the fact that users SAVE money is important. From my perspective, fewer commons means fewer temptations. Again, old and new users will buy commons if they're 50% off during events. Only the quantity of items bought really differs. ANY way to have users keeping more amounts of gold will help stimulate the economy. And if the newer users have more gold to spend, the smaller/newer items that they don't have will soon be bought as well because they have more spare change. That's just a tangent, really, but it does relate to the fact that more gold = more spending power. ^^ The quoted posts in the first post are in response to the fact that one possible reason why the Exchange is dead is because there isn't enough gold circulating between users due to it being hoarded for events. It was also mentioned there that the reduction in the games cap plays a part, and I know we agree on the subject because I read your posts here regarding that. Anyhows, Bartuc already explained the rest anyway, so I won't elaborate further. You're welcome to read the thread anyway for a clearer pictures (it's definitely shorter when compared to this thread xDD). ... Eww, that's long. D8 Sorry if I repeated stuff that Bartuc's already said. :x I just felt I needed to say my piece, since I was one of the users you were referring to in the bolded statement. ^^;; |
i agree with them. i think there needs to be less items at half price. when there are so many i just get overwhelmed. this event for example i bought very little because i was so overwhelmed. where as in previous events i bought a lot more. i plan on buying the items i wanted post event but then i lose the half price discount. at the same time i feel its going to work out better since i have more time to earn to gold.
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I agree with Silverwingedshadows. Isn't there any way you could make the CIs cheaper instead of just decreasing them? I'm not a completionist so I don't try to collect whole sets of CIs or EIs [unless they're free or I really, really like them :sweat:] but it would really help out those who want to get all the rares during the event since:
a) We don't have those mini-game things we used to during coded events where we don't need a lot of gold to get stuff. b) Most people during holidays like Christmas would be too busy in real-life to get on enough to post enough to get enough gold. And Valentines or other holidays without public vacation time [I don't know if there's a term for them :sweat:] might be no exception. c) People like me, who don't earn as much gold as the more loquacious of Menewsha, look forward to the choices and the affordability items during events offer. There are a bunch of things I like from certain shops but they're a little out of my reach so I wait for events to see if they have recolors of stuff that look close to what I want and get those instead :) If there's less event CIs [or EIs] to choose from and none of them are in the style or color that I want, then I might end up not buying anything at all since I prefer buying lots of CIs to EIs. If I have nothing new and shiny that I like to look forward to in shops during events, I feel like there's no point in joining the event forums :P But this is just how I feel about events and event items. I don't change my avi often so I'm very patient when it comes to getting full priced things. But when I do, it's usually for events and other special occasions and I use stuff that match the theme. Since there's a time limit to lower price stuff during events, I'm always caught up in the rush to get them [which is the fun part for me :XD]. So please, if possible, make CIs a little cheaper. Or if you're going to put up less stuff for Valentine's, at least make them more than just recolors :) |
The events are pretty much the only time that I buy commons. I certainly wouldn't want them to come out at full price instead of half price. Heck, if people want to buy them at full price, they can wait until after the event to buy them.
The fact is, people don't have to buy the items. You aren't forcing them to spend gold by providing more commons. That's entirely user choice. I think it's good to have a wide variety and lots of colors so everyone CAN get stuff that they like. And if they can't afford everything, they can always get them later for more gold. |
Personally, I enjoy having the half-price commons, but fewer would be better. It puts more focus on the actual event verses 'gotta get the commons before they become full price.'
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me personally i don't mind but i have to agree that having a discount when the event happens is something that i rather enjoy i guess i don't really have an opinion on it except for having the discount but then again i like getting a lot of items also
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I'm for keeping things the way they have been in previous events. My reasoning for this is: Mene already has fewer items to choose from than some of the other sites out there. For those of us who like to cosplay our avis or just like playing paper dolls with them, this can present a huge challenge. Events are the source of 90% of the commons updates I've seen on this site in the year I've been a member. Therefore the idea of fewer event commons makes me incredibly nervous. Plus, I really like the variety of recolors we've been getting in the recent events. I also like the fact that the event commons are half price because for those of us who may have limited time online due to other responsibilities, the discount gives us a chance to get some nice things without having to save up forever.
Those that have complained about spending a lot of money on event commons and still wanting more....I don't understand. You obviously like the items or you wouldn't buy so many. Why are you complaining? O_o' I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything. I just really don't get the logic in that. The event items are great and getting them for half price is awesome, so why fuss because you couldn't afford everything you wanted? I don't generally get everything I want while an event is going on, but they are commons so I know they'll still be there when I can get them. I'll just have to pay a little bit more for them. As for the idea that the exchange has slowed down in recent months, I'm sure it has. The whole site has slowed down. The events may have had some impact on trade, but only because we had three events in close succession (because CP got pushed back so much). That wouldn't normally happen. I don't think there is any reason to change the way things have been done because of a few comments in one forum. The exchange will pick up between events and slack off when they get close. Its just human nature to save up for special occasions and fewer commons won't help that. I can't imagine that destroying part of what makes events exciting will help matters. It will just give people less to look forward to in future events. The idea of it makes me cringe. |
I personally never have trouble getting the commons I want during events but I probably spend a less than most. I don't usually spend more than 5,000 gold on commons during an event. Even so, I like having lots of commons to choose from because honestly I don't always like some of the sets. If we have less commons during events, either the number of colors or the variety of items is going to diminish which will decrease my spending even more because the colors I want won't be there or I might not like what sets there are. My personal opininion is that if people feel they are spending too much during events then try should exercise a little more choice in what what they purchase.
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I'm really not sure what to do, When events like this come along, the event commons I wish to purchase at least one of so in my opinion having the commons half of their original price would be advantageous to say the least, I was slightly upset at not being able to afford any of the Christmas commons, which I adored :( and I don't know what's happened to them, if they're even purchase able now. If they are I would dearly love to know how to get hold of them. But for the Valentines event, I think Commons should be cheaper :] gives everyone the chance to relish in the abundance of coolness that is provided in each event. I pretty much like it when there are clues, to gaining the event Rares or like tokens or something that can be gained from posting to obtain them, and then having purchase able event commons ^.^ thats how I would like it again.
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I really don't think that the number of commons released during events should be dropped, unless - as stated in the past few pages by quite a few users - there were more commons updates between events. I might just be a casual user who's only been here for about a year and a half, so perhaps my opinion won't hold as much weight. But in the time that I've been here, I've seen very few commons updates that weren't connected to an event. In fact, off the top of my head, I can't even remember one. And, as was said before me, often some of the items released during an event are simply recolors and have nothing to do with the event and don't go together with any of the event sets.
If these types of items are released between events in updates, then I'd be fine with the number of event commons dropping. However, there are already so few items released during an event that I like, so I feel like dropping the number of commons will give me even less choice. Not everyone is trying to collect every common item; in fact, I think the number of people only collecting the items they like is likely far greater than the number of people collecting everything. So I just feel like giving us less options is only catering to those few who are on such large quests. However, as I said, I am only a casual user and I have only just reached my year-and-a-half mark, so my words might not carry the weight of someone else's. Thank you for at least considering them. |
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