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Talitha001 01-11-2011 02:32 AM

Well I like the same number at half price or we could do event money like we did that one Halloween. I am on my iPod touch and at work. Finish this when I get home

Winter Wind 01-11-2011 02:34 AM

If we implement event currency, that defeats the purpose of the Event Commons store as a gold sink.

It'll mean more and more gold exchanging hands, but without a dependable gold sink, we'll just get super inflation.

Keyori 01-11-2011 02:52 AM

You can max out Tetris in 5 minutes?! I wish I was that good... :gonk:

SupportMene<3 01-11-2011 03:00 AM

(this is Windy)

Yea, haha. Skip to level 10, clear out two 4-block blocks, then one 2-block, and you're good to go. :3
I also play while holding the down key, so I play like...super-speed tetris. xD

Keyori 01-11-2011 03:24 AM

I usually start on level 5... maybe I'll see if I can keep up with level 10. That'd make my exchanging a little bit easier for sure xD

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Edit: Yeah... I can't quite keep up with that. :sweat: I feel like I have played at those speeds before, but I sure as heck can't do it now. Ah well. I've been more determined lately to get some sets finished up, so I have a feeling I'll get a lot of practicing in this next month or so. xD

Silverwingedshadows 01-11-2011 04:36 AM

I tried doing speed tetris....to hard. :cry: When played alot it was FanGirls.

I wouldn't mind another CI a month or something extra like that. But doesn't that kinda stuff take alot of work and stuff to do? (I might have miss understood what someone was saying though.)

jessiekins 01-11-2011 05:23 AM

personally i don't think anything should be changed.
i like having a very big selection in the commons cause i don't
always like all the commons.

having fewer would just give me less to choose from and i wouldn't like that very much.

making them full price would defeat the purpose of it being an event.

Red_Hope 01-11-2011 07:39 AM

The only thing I'm having an issue with in regards to the commons is that the past couple events, it has been admitted that the commons were re-colored reissues of items already in existence. That part bugs me. If that is the case, reduce the number of items available, or maybe reduce the pricing for the event Rares (How scandalous! I know XD;; ) even.

Ling 01-11-2011 11:19 AM

I voted for less items at half price but honestly the more I think about it the less it matters when it comes to quantity of new common items during events. I'm the type that only usually buys items when I really like them and don't really go on a full on spending spree during events.

In my opinion it doesn't really matter how many new common event items, as long as they're still at half price during the event period then I'm happy.

jupiter 01-11-2011 11:21 AM

Honestly? I don't think I really care that much. If you want an item, you find ways to post like a crazy person to get it. And if you don't then someone else does. It's not the prices or the variety that bothers me about events lately so much as the lack of effort that seems to be put towards them.

Not that I want the staff to sacrifice their life for the site, but I would like to see something more thoughtful than a new event forum that gets archived away after.

Sayomi 01-11-2011 02:29 PM

Eh...I started giving up on reading all these responses partway into the first page.

I'll sum up my opinion. I voted one way, but now that I think about it, I disagree with my previous self.

Now that I've given it some thought, I feel like less is more, to summarize it. These boatload of commons thrown down during the event are a blackhole for gold, which in turn takes away from the exchange with has already been pointed out is lacking in fresh activity. Now look, I'm not saying I don't appreciate the commons, because I Do. I think they're awesome, and I appreciate the time and effort that is put into them. But when I open up the event store and see about 15 pages of commons, I twitch a little bit. My attention span is horrifically short, hence the twitching, and I'm thinking to myself: Well...I better buy as much of the stuff I like as I can, since I will have a hellacious time finding this stuff once it is recirculated into the normal stores

I know the stores have rules as to what goes where, but sometimes my poor memory, lack of attention span, and other factors play into me rarely seeing said items again.

Ok, off that particular point. My next point would be that I honestly think you guys are putting too much work onto yourselves. I hope this call for a potential of less E.Cs hasnt offended the hardworking staff that puts so much time into making these things for us, because with all this whining (on my behalf anyway) I feel as though it could be interpreted as ungrateful (again, I'm only speaking for myself, so don't get your panties in a wad). Thats not the case! Really its not! I'm trying to think of the greater good in this case, and I think it'd be probably less stressful, and a hell of a lot of less work if the amount of the commons for the event were cut down. But hey, maybe I'm wrong. I don't know the pixelist(s?) personally, so maybe the amount of work is enjoyed. Maybe its not as strenuous as I think it is, I really wouldn't know since I've never really talked to one, nor am I familiar with the process. Like I said, I didn't read this whole thread, so if there was a posting with that information included, my apologies. I'm lazy.

If you wanna keep pumping out the same amount of commons, maybe (NOW I DID SEE THIS MENTIONED!) do it during non-event times? I agree with the general idea of having commons with a different theme or feel to them would be great, hell it'd be neat. In the year (almost anyway) that I've been here, I don't recall seeing commons released for the hell of it..Oh wait...no I take that back, once. Some recolors I think, hats or skirts or something...I remember it being 80s related? I'unno.

Anyway, I've talked enough, probably annoyed someone. Disagree with me if you like, thats fine, its just my opinion and everyone has one. I want to summarize my thoughts into two things. 1. Less is more, and 2. Thanks for all the hard work (like putting up with me xD)

Rylynne 01-11-2011 03:27 PM

Wow, seems there is a really close battle in the polls right now. xDD;; <3<3


Btw, for those who want to max out Tetris in five minutes or less, begin at level 8 and take out 4-rowed groups of blocks 3 times. That should get you to around 27k in total scoring, which is slightly more than the 26k cap for the 50g gold. :'> It takes the same number of "clearing up" as Windy's method, but it's for those of us who would rather not handle the speed of level 10. xDD;;

Sorry for the off-topicness of this btw. >.<;;

Kasumi Ocada 01-11-2011 05:46 PM

I hate to say it, but I've changed my mind.

I originally posted "same number" but after reading more of the thread I've changed my mind. I think that a fewer number would be beneficial to being able to actually obtain more of the items, even if there is less variety.

Since I can't change my vote, I'm posting here. ^.^'

Kenome-Chan 01-11-2011 06:11 PM

i never have enough money for all the commons.... so i'd like fewer commons at half the price.

Stardragon 01-11-2011 07:06 PM

I think the price or the number of items shouldn't change. However I do see the point of having fewer items.

Kole_Locke 01-11-2011 07:25 PM

I like things just the way they are, if it is not broke, then don't fix it.

Snowberry 01-11-2011 08:16 PM

I already said what I had to say in the other thread. I didn't say that fewer commons are the problem behind the exchange being in a rut. >,>
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These are people who are discussing why the Exchange forum is slower lately than it used to be - so their thoughts may not be the same as the 'average' person on Menewsha.
I thought we could do with less period.

My posts/viewpoint didn't express that as the reason.
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But, that still wouldn't be the main part of the problem. We still had half off commons way back when, too. The quantity I'm hazy on. I think it's the collective mindset in the exchange itself.

M i r o 01-11-2011 10:22 PM

Okay...lets see.

The reason why its overwhelming to buy all the commons during events is because of the generous color rations.--We woo'd for more commons during events with more colors to match other commons in the regular stores. I don't think we should cut-back. It solely depends on the individual who splurges themselves to try and obtain every single item given. Although, some event commons are over-priced than they should be. For example: The sugar plum wings. They were 1,500 at half price but they are so small and become hidden very easily when layering certain items and they aren't even multi+ to anything special. (They are beautiful though)

Other than that, I do notice that there are less shopping going around in the Exchange forum. I myself have not cared enough to sell anything lately. I rely more on entering event game threads hosted by the menewshan staff to gamble on if I'm going to win a good amount of gold or not. xD I'm starting to care less for the exchange anyway. I don't have gold to spend all the time and I don't feel like buying overpriced contribution/event items from other people anymore. So it doesn't effect me. If I do obtain event item extras or CIs, I just give them out as prizes during events to those who don't have them.

To me, I don't see a problem in the numbers of event commons we're getting or the event items. I'm not a rich member on here and I dig around through my inventory to sell things that I don't need anymore to buy new items each time. If you think about it, events are the only time we really have any shop updates. Its like a 3-in-1.

salvete 01-12-2011 12:19 AM

Every event, I am awed by the wide variety and abundance of new commons in the Special Event Store,
every event, I spend all of my gold on them,
and every event, there are always so many items that I just cannot afford.

Ever since the maximum earned from games dropped from 500 gold to 250 gold (thus, 1000 gold to 500 gold if playing on both main and mule accounts), I have found myself in an economic crisis when it comes to event spending.

I know that the game gold maximum was decreased in an attempt to increase participation in the forums, which is understandable. Therefore, instead of increasing the gold maximum from games, perhaps reduce something else.

I love the variety of items that are released to the Special Event Store each event, but what I find discouraging is the fact that there are so many wonderful colors for each item to choose from, but which I can never afford!

Perhaps reduce the number of commons released to the Special Event Store? or reduce the number of colors for each item released?

Definitely keep the half-price, please, I appreciate it very much. :3

And as for the exchange, please sell your commons to other users instead of to the sell-back store, everyone! :3 I know that it's easy to just click a few things and convert your items to gold, but there are a lot of users out there (myself included!) who would love to buy those items from you, and at higher than 50% for each item! So you would be making more gold by selling to users than to sell back to stores. :3

Thank you!

Love,
Salvete.

yukiaine22 01-12-2011 01:01 AM

I would have to say less commons at half price. Most of the time I don't always have a lot of gold and this might help out a lot with holidays being so close together.

Nivvy 01-12-2011 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Winter Wind (Post 1768964100)
If we implement event currency, that defeats the purpose of the Event Commons store as a gold sink.

It'll mean more and more gold exchanging hands, but without a dependable gold sink, we'll just get super inflation.

Super inflation already exists on Mene, for the big rares because supply can't meet demand. Most sellers are complaining at the fact that older CIs aren't really changing in price and newer ones are worth crap all.

The truth is, there isn't much gold on the exchange. There are quite a few sellers like myself, who are trying to pull pure together for all pure offers on big rares. I'm having to slash my prices, like a lot of other pure only sellers - because people just can't afford stuff. The exchange is currently very unhealthy.

Following quotes sourced from The Overabundance Thread.


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Originally Posted by Bartuc
I have noticed the CI prices are as low as 850g per CI. WTF is this about? Are their THAT many of them?

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Originally Posted by Vickyll3
There is a lot of CI, and I guess people are having to cut down prices

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Originally Posted by Sayomi
The balance is off, its like there are waay more sellers than buyers.

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Originally Posted by monstahh`
We need more people buying items. We need more users to stick around longer with more money in their pockets so they have more money to spend. :(


Sayomi 01-12-2011 01:46 AM

I stand by what I said, yes, the balance is off with the exchange. And I agree with what Nivvy is saying, hell I'm in the same boat. Accumulating pure is getting harder. Offers I get for the bigger things I'm selling are usually mixed with items or mostly items.

Jeannesha 01-12-2011 01:56 AM

I think that changing the games from 500 gold per day to 250 gold per day has made a HUGE difference.
I know that I certainly don't have as much gold to spend anymore...

Nivvy 01-12-2011 02:11 AM

@ Sayomi

I had a pop up for sale recently, and had two different offers to decide upon. There was something like a 30k difference in the values of the offers. I opted for the offer of lesser value, because it had more pure in it. That's how I have to work in the exchange now, because every item in an offer is too stagnant in value. You end up losing out, if you have to sell more items because buyers now need the prices to be slashed X__x;;

@ Jeannesha

I haven't really thought much about the games cap being lowered. It's very likely it is contributing to the stagnant economy. Combined with the supply and demand, and the event store as a gold sink - it's reeking havok on newer CIs and EIs. Maybe as a gold sink, the event store is working too well xD;;

Jymphoni 01-12-2011 02:19 AM

Keep all the prices and amounts the same, but raise the amount of gold per post for the event forums.
It gives us a little more money for the event items with less saving. D8


Also a random idea
Menewsha Bank?
Put in so much of your gold and get so much more money by leaving it there?
Even if it's only a little increase, it's still helpful. (:


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