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eclipse2387 03-16-2011 01:04 AM

Just An Open Opinion Post To What My Thoughts Are On Piracy
 
In My Opinion Through All The Piracy And The Ways To Stop It Ive Come To An Opinion On The Matter With All The Law Suites And With All The Attempts To Put A Stop To This My Conclusion Is Within The Near Future(Possibly) Media Itself Will Pass An Act From ISP Providers To Include Some Kind Of Taxes For Using Such Sites To Make Reprimands Of Funds To The Artists With All The Tech Buffs Behind The Pro Use Of Piracy And All The Tech Buff With The Anti-Piracy It Will Inevitably Be A Never Ending Battle (Same As With The War Against Drugs) This Will Make Usage Of "Free Downloads Of Media Files" Enable Some Type Of A Throttled Tax Rate When Downloaded It Wont Have To Be a Lot maybe A Dollar For Unlimited On A Month But None The Less It Could Be Added To The Internet Bill And Those Artists Will Gain That Money At A Reasonable Price That IS Within The Internet Bill Itself

Anybody See Something Like This Happening In The Near Future
Or Possibly Think This Would Be A Good Idea
Or Even Should There Be a Slight Change In The Way It Should Work?
I'm Open To Hearing Your Thoughts On This Thread

Explodey 03-16-2011 09:25 AM

Well....I still think Lars from Metallica is a bit of a rich dickhead.

Aspinou 03-16-2011 10:45 AM

@eclipse Could you like not use so much caps in your text, it's kind of hard to read.


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Originally Posted by Explodey (Post 1769240415)
Well....I still think Lars from Metallica is a bit of a rich dickhead.

Quote on that!

eclipse2387 03-16-2011 03:57 PM

Lol my apologies I'm a bit of a perfectionist so the caps aren't meant to be hard to read and yes Lars is too XD

BurningCrusade 03-16-2011 05:32 PM

You can never stop Piracy, as long as it's available people will find a way. Someone could just go to the store, buy it, then put it up on the internet and people could grab it. It's not nessecerily the pirating sites that are the problem, it's the people in this world. No one wants to pay for an album.

Vix Viral 03-16-2011 08:24 PM

Your post is annoying to read due to the caps so I'm going to just state my opinion on the matter.

I don't give a shit about piracy, really. I'd much rather actually give my money to bands by seeing them in concert and buy a cd or t-shirt at the event. Even if I've already downloaded their album, I'll still buy a hard copy at a show. More of the proceeds go directly to them that way. I read an article about it a few weeks ago.

eclipse2387 03-16-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vix Viral (Post 1769241797)
Your post is annoying to read due to the caps so I'm going to just state my opinion on the matter.

I don't give a shit about piracy, really. I'd much rather actually give my money to bands by seeing them in concert and buy a cd or t-shirt at the event. Even if I've already downloaded their album, I'll still buy a hard copy at a show. More of the proceeds go directly to them that way. I read an article about it a few weeks ago.

Wow no need to be so rude opinions are fine but profanity isn't necessary i never called you out on this one and if you didn't really want to read this in the first place then why did you?Its as easy as skipping to the next post

Vix Viral 03-16-2011 11:22 PM

How is stating my stance on piracy in any way rude or an attack on you? If you actually took two seconds to read what I posted then you'd see that I said how I felt about piracy, that I don't give a shit about it.

You were not involved in it at all so don't give me shit for your own misinterpretation. You're making a scene over nothing. Literally.

Also, I can curse as much as I like. This isn't Neopets.

Sir D . L O Van Lobsters 03-18-2011 12:13 AM

I LOVE Henry Rollins' opinion on pirating music.

"I'd rather be listen to than paid."

Explodey 03-18-2011 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sir D . L O Van Lobsters (Post 1769247338)
I LOVE Henry Rollins' opinion on pirating music.

"I'd rather be listen to than paid."

that. :heart:


good ol' Henry.

Projectwolfie 03-18-2011 09:23 PM

An artist receives an EXTREMELY low payment themselves whenever a CD is bought. Almost the complete amount goes to the record company, producers, etc. Do I want to pay for the artist themselves, or the people that take the artists' money? Obviously the artist. So what do I do. See them in concert instead, the artist receives more money themselves by having their material spread/downloaded for free, and then fans seeing them live. However when it comes to someone that needs the money, such as an unsigned band... or perhaps someone who doesn't really happen into concerts anymore and don't have very many other means of income, I tend to frown upon that.

Also the government is the last person you should be concerned with when it comes to music. If the government is doing something about it, that's confirmation of the FCC completing their conquest of world domination. Because the government would be acting on behalf of only certain music industries.

eclipse2387 03-19-2011 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Projectwolfie (Post 1769251247)
An artist receives an EXTREMELY low payment themselves whenever a CD is bought. Almost the complete amount goes to the record company, producers, etc. Do I want to pay for the artist themselves, or the people that take the artists' money? Obviously the artist. So what do I do. See them in concert instead, the artist receives more money themselves by having their material spread/downloaded for free, and then fans seeing them live. However when it comes to someone that needs the money, such as an unsigned band... or perhaps someone who doesn't really happen into concerts anymore and don't have very many other means of income, I tend to frown upon that.

Also the government is the last person you should be concerned with when it comes to music. If the government is doing something about it, that's confirmation of the FCC completing their conquest of world domination. Because the government would be acting on behalf of only certain music industries.

i deffinatly agree with you i never thought of it that way but yes the managers and companies get the bigger share of money than the artists do and the fcc like eminem says wont let him be lol good opinion

dsims69 03-21-2011 03:12 AM

@Vix Viral, im sorry to say bt he is just giving his opinion on the matter you did not have to be rude to him in any way shape or form, idc what your opinion is on this matter you had no right to swear at him the way you did! and i totally agree with his opinion along with some other's opinions on here as well. and to be honest Vix Viral you are the one that took the time to read it so dont be saying he is annoying cuz he put caps as the first letter of each word. ive seen ppl do worse!!!! so keep your rude comments to YOUR DAMN SELF!!!!!!

Mystic 03-21-2011 05:29 AM

Since most of the record sales do go to everyone but the artists unless it's an independent recording studio owned by the artist, I really do not see why artists would be so against it. I mean as an artist, I would rather have my art work out there and have people enjoy listening to my music rather than worrying about people getting it for free. There is no way to police the internet and people are going to share music anyway.

I'm not going to go into full details about my opinion because I could pretty much write a book on reasons why I'm both for and against free sharing ranging from the rights of artists up to record companies losing money and other reasons.

eclipse2387 03-21-2011 06:00 AM

I Couldnt Agree More With You Mystic

Vix Viral 03-21-2011 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dsims69 (Post 1769262425)
@Vix Viral, im sorry to say bt he is just giving his opinion on the matter you did not have to be rude to him in any way shape or form, idc what your opinion is on this matter you had no right to swear at him the way you did! and i totally agree with his opinion along with some other's opinions on here as well. and to be honest Vix Viral you are the one that took the time to read it so dont be saying he is annoying cuz he put caps as the first letter of each word. ive seen ppl do worse!!!! so keep your rude comments to YOUR DAMN SELF!!!!!!

Or you can actually LOOK at my first post and see that I'm clearly discussing my thoughts on piracy aka that I don't give a shit about it. Again, all of this is repeated in my second post. Get over it.

Love people who can't read :lol:

eclipse2387 03-21-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Vix Viral (Post 1769263790)
Or you can actually LOOK at my first post and see that I'm clearly discussing my thoughts on piracy aka that I don't give a shit about it. Again, all of this is repeated in my second post. Get over it.

Love people who can't read :lol:

actual your opinion also stated "my text is annoying to read clearly" taking a stab at me as well and yes i do read how about maybe learning not going into posts and being an ass to people and growing up because its people like you who make sites like these not appropriate for younger children which if it wouldn't have been for that smart ass comment and talk down i would probably let my own kids come on here and so far you've been the only one whos ever started any trouble with me on here so all i can say is i see you as the bad apple of this website the rest have been nothing but friendly good day to you and by the way my girlfriend has a mind of her own i dont control here shes stating her "Honest" opinion about you. hurts doesnt it

Vix Viral 03-22-2011 01:01 AM

Going to cry because I said the way your post was formatted was annoying? Go for it.

I could care less about your kids or anyone else's. And the only trouble here is what you're making for yourself. I clarified that I didn't mean for anything to come off as an attack on you.

You're the ones continuing it when it had been over. She posted yesterday when the last thing I had said was on the 16th, four days prior. So yes, she was the one who brought it back up needlessly.

I don't see what there is to hurt me here but alright, whatever you say.

The Wandering Poet 03-22-2011 08:46 AM

No more fighting okay? I do think full caps does make it a bit difficult to read but that's not what we're here to discuss isn't it? And hey it's better than yellow font on our white background :P

My opinion about piracy is that I want to make sure it's worth buying before I buy it... some songs you get the teaser of the best part and the rest is trash... I want to hear the whole thing a couple times. Also, most famous bands are being paid a fortune aren't they? If I listen to their song a bit and don't buy it they wont go out of business right?

Azriellia 03-23-2011 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vix Viral (Post 1769241797)
Your post is annoying to read due to the caps so I'm going to just state my opinion on the matter.

I don't give a shit about piracy, really. I'd much rather actually give my money to bands by seeing them in concert and buy a cd or t-shirt at the event. Even if I've already downloaded their album, I'll still buy a hard copy at a show. More of the proceeds go directly to them that way. I read an article about it a few weeks ago.

Your post is annoying is actually being rude, just so you know. And the creator of this thread may actually find you cussing to be offensive.
Anywho, from what you've actually written above, you are correct in that claim, but you not giving a shit about piracy is the reason some bands don't tour. You can say you're going to just go to a concert anyways, and although that seems like logical thinking, I'm sure which ever band you like will tour the areas where the stats show that they sell the most. So what could actually happen is that because of people pirating all the music lets just say in your area that band will tour nowhere near there because it's not an area where the CD sold well.
So technically although it's better to buy at concerts. It's also necessary to buy the CD only because a band can't tour if everyone steals there music. It would be stupid to play for people who are stealing from you.
I am aware that the record company gets the most money out of the deal of buying CD's, but unless the musician or band you like is banked up, they can't just make the decision to tour without being permitted by said record company.

dsims69 03-23-2011 03:00 AM

@Azriellia
i totally agree with you on the piracy thing and i totally agree with you about vix viral, my husband(the creator of the thread) and i did find her cussing offensive and her text was quite rude.

@the wandering poet
i totally agree that reading caps is better then reading yellow font on a white background.....that would deff mess with your eyes a lil bit. lol

eclipse2387 03-23-2011 03:01 AM

i can agree withyou on that being a producer / artist myself if evryone was too bottleg my stuff which i have come across it really give me a 2 way feeling on the matter im glad thatmy music is good enough to do that but still it urks me to think people havnt bought the music that ive worked hours apon hours for and sold on my website just for them to get a bootlegg copy for some people they just see a song as ... well a song. and to thoes who do the work and do the songs its more of a dedication such as if you were to sit and paint a painting for days on end you wouldnt want somone to just walk up and steal it from you would you same as with music it is an art thanks for the insightfull opinion Azriellia

Azriellia 03-23-2011 04:12 AM

You're welcome. I rather like this thread. I want to write my next paper on it. So I have been reading the opinions of everyone on here. Although I can quote what any of you say it's nice to see to the different angles at which this can be taken.
But in agreeance to you, I draw and I would seriously not like for anyone to take something I spent hours drawing an painting.
I have this favorite band of mine called Tokio Hotel, and I know some people will say eww yucky stuff to it, but I love them. And I seriously can not just take there songs. Granted I have done it before just to turn back aound and by all the albums. It's unfair to the artist.
However I do understand what one of the replies were saying when they said that they like to sample the music. However in response to that, this sampling doesn't mean downloading. Sometimes you can youtube it. But I see youtube has stricter rules on infringement because of piracy.
To some a song is just a song, whether it makes you feel something doesn't matter because unlike a a hand drawn original picture a song can be replicated a 100% while printing a picture offline not matter how good will never be a 100%.

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Since this is the age of virtual and easy access and with just a click of a button there is no reason to step out the door. It will seem to be a never ending battle on piracy. Even if music today were to somehow figure out a way that when they sell there CDs encode a certain not virus perse but a block that stops illegal uploads. It wouldn't last long. Hell incorporating a song into a vid is one of the best ways to get around that.
Nowadays a song has little vaue to the listener. ANd for that I am sad. It's because of piracy that some favorite band of ours may disband or just stop making music.
I know that some say that it should matter if to the artist if you're download, because they should want to make a song to be heard not paid for. But at the same time. Even if most artist were like that, it's steal taking a song without there consent. WHether they want you to pay for it or not doesn't matter because you stole it from them anyways. An artist needs to make a living as well.
But some people just don't realize that.


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