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Dillo 05-02-2011 06:50 PM

His death is going to cause a lot of shit though Obama told US citizens to be on full alert at all times, because there will be bombings and such.

Clorissa 05-02-2011 07:05 PM

This is not going to go unretaliated against.

In all realism, seriously. There are going to be very, very harsh actions taken against the United States for this.. Not simply because they assassinated the leader of a very powerful and radiacal group of people, but because of how they dealt with the body when they were finished.

It was INCREDIBLY disrespectful of the US to "bury him at sea." I mean, the least we could've done was sent the body back right? They were afraid of how the radicals that would attend his funeral we were to give him one would do.. But why couldn't they just give his body back? They couldn't turn him into a zombie or ressurrect him or anything.. so instead of doing the thing that would least likely ilict a horrible response, which wouldve been giving the body back, we just dropped it into the ocean. Go us. Go, US.

I'm just waiting to live in a "Fallout 3" setting, thanks to my fucking wonderful, honorable, and respectful government.

Not that I don't think Osama Bin Laden being killed isn't a good thing.. I mean, it's good. Sure. But my god, I'm disappointed.

Dillo 05-02-2011 07:19 PM

They buried him at sea because no country wanted the body. Nobody wanted the most wanted man in the world to be buried on their land. They also didn't want him to be buried and then have his grave as a shrine, and for it to be worshiped.

Ashlyn Mae 05-02-2011 07:34 PM

I was actually eating my breakfast early this morning [early being 6 am] before work, turned on the news and heard that he had been killed. My first instinct was to go online and check everything out, which I did. I was like, 'Wow he's finally gone', went to work and told a couple of co-workers who all looked at me as though I was a crazy, shrugged, and went back to work. o.o

I'm glad he's dead, as it's a chapter that can be closed, but it'll be a tough couple of months of touch and go. Never know what's going to happen next.

Dillo 05-02-2011 07:37 PM

He was on the loose for I think my teacher said 25 years.xD

Clair Voyant 05-02-2011 08:07 PM

I've always believed that one day, people will ask me "What were you doing when you heard about 9/11?". I believe I will also be asked one day in the future "What were you doing when you learned Osama Bin Laden was killed?" I'm glad that I will be able to answer both questions and I'm hopeful this might be the start of the end for bringing our troops back home (all of them)... but I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high.

Spring`Tyme Fresh 05-02-2011 09:13 PM

I was asleep, checked fb on my phone and saw it via a friend's status. Then I texted my mum asking her if it was true because I didn't quite believe it.

No, this won't have solved everything, but at the very least it got a hugely influential and evil man out of the picture. Perhaps by now the Taliban might learn that they don't win in the end. First Saddam, now Osama.

And I don't mean to start a debate, but Clorissa: that man deserved no respect. None. Why should he have the decency of a proper burial when thousands of parents couldn't bury their children, partners, brothers, sisters, bury each other after 9/11?

That would have been disrespectful ...

Projectwolfie 05-02-2011 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Clorissa (Post 1769401711)
It was INCREDIBLY disrespectful of the US to "bury him at sea." I mean, the least we could've done was sent the body back right? They were afraid of how the radicals that would attend his funeral we were to give him one would do.. But why couldn't they just give his body back? They couldn't turn him into a zombie or ressurrect him or anything.. so instead of doing the thing that would least likely ilict a horrible response, which wouldve been giving the body back, we just dropped it into the ocean. Go us. Go, US.

I am confused, because I'm pretty sure we buried him at sea according to how islamic tradition states. At least to what I'm told, I'm not in any way an expert of the area's traditions.

Either way though, we should've at least given him back to the wife that identified him after the DNA test... who knows though, maybe who they talked with said it was better they bury him away like that. Think they're going to tell us that on western mainstream news? Nope.

Guivre 05-02-2011 10:46 PM

I don't know why everyone is taking the news at face value.

Dillo 05-02-2011 10:47 PM

here is what i read

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The official said that finding a country willing to accept the remains of the world's most wanted terrorist would have been difficult, so the decision was made to bury bin Laden at sea. Furthermore, one suspects that the U.S. would not have wanted there to be a grave site for fear of it turning into a place of worship for bin Laden's followers. There are rumors, however, that the U.S. asked Saudi Arabia to take the body (bin Laden was born there), but it allegedly refused.


Read more: Bin Laden Buried at Sea Within 24 Hours of Death: Why? - TIME NewsFeed

Projectwolfie 05-02-2011 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Guivre (Post 1769402201)
I don't know why everyone is taking the news at face value.

Who, me? Hell no. I'd rather take any alternate route than what I'm told, I hate the news in this country. I'm just going by what I have gathered, and for now I have to use the worst sources possible.

If anyone has a translated copy of the Pakistan news, or maybe a BBC news article with both sides represented, that would be great.

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Originally Posted by C R E E P Y S A M (Post 1769402203)
here is what i read

Eeeeeeeh... no offense, but a western mainstream magazine article for current events is even worse of a source than western mainstream news at times. I'll give Time some slack though, they're still informative.

And that's what I was talking about, the 24 hours. Would you really want to just hand them the body and say "Sorry about disrespecting your culture's tradition but we were late scanning the body, here you go!" Stop and think about how slow it would be to dig a grave, and after all the busy work of completing an operation. Maybe his wishes were to be buried at sea, we don't know. None of us know, even if we were to take all the news for what it was.

Little Monster 05-03-2011 12:05 AM

I was at my school and as soon as I got in all I could here was "Osama is Deeaaad!" (It was quite annoying frankly.)
I heard a navy seal had shot him in the head, and killed him, along with 20+ other of his people.
I'm very thankful for this killing and this shows justice to all those people who have lost there lives because of terrorist attacks. But I'm kind of on edge because now airplane fears are pretty high... nervous for going on a plane... :/

Dillo 05-03-2011 12:16 AM

He wouldn't have had time to choose how he was to be buried.xD He was shot in the head!

Ebil 05-03-2011 12:59 AM

I found out on Facebook, as I logged in this morning. There were a bunch of people posting and celebrating. It was kind of distasteful really. I did laugh at one post where someone said something along the lines of Osama being the world's hide and seek champion, but I also found it quite sick seeing some of the pictures people put together of Statue of Liberty holding up his decapitated head and such like.

It's an odd feeling I have about the whole thing, I'm glad he was caught, but at the same time not comfortable with people celebrating the fact.
I guess this quote sums up my feelings best
Quote:

I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy.”
- Martin Luther King Jr.

I am also a little concerned, as others are, that there is a huge number of people who seem so caught up in the moment that they're not aware of the fact that there is going to be payback from his supporters. Dangerous times ahead I think.

Projectwolfie 05-03-2011 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by C R E E P Y S A M (Post 1769402444)
He wouldn't have had time to choose how he was to be buried.xD He was shot in the head!

Still they knew one of the wives, they could've known. Farfetched, but eh.

Dillo 05-03-2011 01:18 AM

The wive was probably forced to marry him.:/ Ima go search for an answer again!

Anaxilea 05-03-2011 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clorissa (Post 1769401711)
This is not going to go unretaliated against.

In all realism, seriously. There are going to be very, very harsh actions taken against the United States for this.. Not simply because they assassinated the leader of a very powerful and radiacal group of people, but because of how they dealt with the body when they were finished.

It was INCREDIBLY disrespectful of the US to "bury him at sea." I mean, the least we could've done was sent the body back right? They were afraid of how the radicals that would attend his funeral we were to give him one would do.. But why couldn't they just give his body back? They couldn't turn him into a zombie or ressurrect him or anything.. so instead of doing the thing that would least likely ilict a horrible response, which wouldve been giving the body back, we just dropped it into the ocean. Go us. Go, US.

I'm just waiting to live in a "Fallout 3" setting, thanks to my fucking wonderful, honorable, and respectful government.

Not that I don't think Osama Bin Laden being killed isn't a good thing.. I mean, it's good. Sure. But my god, I'm disappointed.

Actually, a considerable amount of thought went into what to do with the body... they offered it back, and as Sam has said, they didn't want it. So they disposed of it in a form which was respectful to the Muslim religion.

Soul 05-03-2011 03:35 AM

My dad came in to the office to which is beside my room where I was and told my mom about it. I over-heard it and went to facebook to update my status and saw 5o other statuses about it. xD

Honestly, I don't think much is going to change. We already know there are leaders set up in line for Al Qaeda that have probably been prepared, with the huge arrow on Osama's head that's been there so long. I doubt a lot of soldiers are going to come home because there are so many issues that sparked from us being there alone. It would be great if we could get some home, though.

monstahh` 05-03-2011 03:53 AM

The death of Osama does not mean the end of terrorism, and frankly the next few months are probably a delicate time in the middle east so I doubt we're going to pull out of there right away.

I first heard about it on facebook. I have a lot of friends in the military and they were all incredibly enthusiastic about it.

Avatre 05-03-2011 06:31 AM

I was playing Black Ops, and overheard some guys talking about how he is finally dead.

I also agree with the Hydra theory, since in the news they are saying that some of the other Al Queda areas are now starting to become bigger threats. Which leads me to believe that not many soldiers will be returning for some time, at least until their rotation is done, and they come back to become refreshed before being sent back. But thats just my theory, and the thought that until the world is under the rule of one nation, that people actually DONT want to remove from leadership, then there will always be someone, somewhere, trying to kill someone else that they think is a heathen.

Kraven 05-03-2011 09:00 AM

Actually, bin laden was with his personal assistant when he was shot. His last words were "Cancel my 2 o'clock"

As for being buried at sea, trust me, not even the sharks will touch him.

Projectwolfie 05-03-2011 01:51 PM

OK guys, let's switch gears here.

Doesn't anyone think it was a llittle.... morbid, there was a huge parade going on over just because we shot one guy in the face? Seriously? I mean the war isn't even over yet and we're just dancing on this guy's grave. That's really classy, it's like another country having a parade on 9/11.

Now, I'm proud of what we did, I am. But only because we accomplished the mission. After that I'm thinking... what are we, barbarians?

Bartuc 05-03-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Projectwolfie (Post 1769403544)
OK guys, let's switch gears here.

Doesn't anyone think it was a llittle.... morbid, there was a huge parade going on over just because we shot one guy in the face? Seriously? I mean the war isn't even over yet and we're just dancing on this guy's grave. That's really classy, it's like another country having a parade on 9/11.

Now, I'm proud of what we did, I am. But only because we accomplished the mission. After that I'm thinking... what are we, barbarians?

It is more of a relief for the families and friends who lost people in the towers, as well as at war because of this bastard. He started a war with the United States almost 10 years ago. Thousands of innocent people died at his planning and 'hand' that kicked this war off. Thousands have died since September 11th due to his act. I do not think it is a parade for victory, but for the death of the person who caused so many others to die. Especially for the people in the towers, pentagon and planes. This was their day. A day to remember and celebrate that the accomplice in their murder was put to rest. That is the day all those families and friends have been waiting for.

Edit: For me it personally. It was a day for me to remember all the fallen that I have seen go home with a flag over. To know the thing they went out everyday for. The thing that they worked 15-48 hour shifts for. Had finally come to an end. You cannot say you went to war to kill one guy. You fight what he stood for. Though, the reason most did what they did by joining went so see him reign come to an end. To see that he paid for all the pains and sorrow that he caused on other people. It was honestly a day of rejoice when that motherfucker died for what he did and the pain he cause for no reason other then to create sorrow and terror.

NeuzaKC 05-03-2011 03:49 PM

It might be a relief, Bartuc, but it's a disgusting one. It's still parading the death of a human being, and I'm pretty sure if I paraded on 9/11 this year you wouldn't be very happy with it.

Anaxilea 05-03-2011 04:10 PM

I don't think that's particularly fair... how many men did we lose, versus one man two days ago? And our men were innocent. I don't think anyone would dispute that there's a difference between loss of innocent life and internationally recognized terrorists.

That being said, no, we shouldn't "dance on his grave". But there's nothing wrong with feeling as if a huge burden has been lifted for families of American soldiers.


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