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Bookwormness 07-30-2011 05:06 AM

I have my yaoi weak spot. Whenever I think of it the song numa numa plays in my head XD

lightkanna 07-30-2011 08:28 AM

I personally find it cute and adorable that they would pair such a couple up. Plus I'm all for M/M couple! My first yaoi was Gravitation because my brother had bought it and I was curious and watched it. ^^ I have the DVD now.

Sho-Shonojo 07-30-2011 02:37 PM

They definitely have a different feel to them than ones about straight relationship. Maybe because it's something that isn't outright accepted everywhere? I don't know.

Soryko 07-30-2011 10:11 PM

I enjoy it quite a bit. =)
I don't really know why...It's just interesting I guess, and for some reason I find the idea of two guys together really cute. I think the same about girls too though. I actually went to a meeting thing about yaoi at Sakura con. They went through the reasons girls are attracted to it.

One of the possible reasons I found interesting: In a lot of yaoi, at least one of the boys are very feminine. Girls like it because they can put themselves in the girly boy's position. And with a boyXboy relationship there is no pregnancy, all you have to worry about is the love (and other life problems of course). xD

That's just one of many reasons they went over. x)

Shotacon 07-31-2011 04:04 PM

I have to raise an eyebrow to the girly guys statement there. Personaly, I normaly see myself as the one on the otbher side of that...But then again I'm a guy..... As far as eyecandy goes, semi girly guys are nice, but I like my men with balls, if you know what I mean? Not hairy chest and all, but I do like a little more then a stick figure with long hair....

Soryko 07-31-2011 05:32 PM

@shota
The panel thing I was at was for girls mainly it seemed. I can't remember much of anything about why guys like it.
But again, that was just one reason and doesn't apply to all people.
If you ever go to Sakura con in Seattle I suggest stopping by the yaoi panel There were two I remember, the later one was actually a discussion). It's fun discussing it. xD The person who leads it does have pretty big opinions (Then again she also spends large amounts of time studying it). She won't make you feel bad for stating your own thoughts though. =)

Shotacon 07-31-2011 06:08 PM

I may be running the Yaoi panel at the next Anime Detour in St. Paul MN next year. I'm just try to figure out how to run it....More fun or more informative....

Soryko 07-31-2011 06:53 PM

Oh very cool. =D
Just do a mix of both fun and informative. xD
The girl in Sakura con used powerpoints. She also brought in her own yaoi manga.
(It was an 18+ room).
Are you going to be running it alone? =o

Cookeh_Monsta 07-31-2011 11:10 PM

I Like yaoi and enjoy roleplaying and stuff. But sometimes it just depends on the pairing. There's good ones and bad ones. Ya' know. I also don't like it when people are all mean about people liking yaoi. I mean everyone has there opinion and mine is that yaoi is fun. My brother however calls me a Fag and always teases me about it. Yaoi is just like any other love story, just between two boys not a boy and a girl. People have different sexual preferences. It's just how we are born.

Sho-Shonojo 08-01-2011 03:40 PM

It's cool to see guys that are interested in yaoi. Around here the only people I know who are in to it are girls.

I'm going to a con in September, can't wait for yaoi night!!

Cat Eye 08-01-2011 04:19 PM

I love it and rp it a lot .-.

I don't really know why I love it....maybe because the thought of me having sex (I'm female) icks me out (with a guy....no interest in females)...so yaoi is a good rp alternative to that : D

Bargrim 08-01-2011 11:14 PM

I don't mind the genre of anime. Honestly, I've read yaoi books before and they where pretty good, similar to yuri.
How ever the fanbase, and the fact that they pair two straight males together pisses me off. Especially if both the guys have girlfriends and are clearly straight, the fanbase is all "THEYRE SO GAY LETS PAIR THEM UP TOGETHER"
As a writer, and an ex-online-comic artist, that kind of thing would offend and piss me off. It's like you're not even respecting the main story line or the characters. Now, I don't mind shipping or anything, but people who crack-ship things that will never happen [Like SasukexNaruto. Seriously?] just annoy me. [INB4; Every hetalia fan ever.]

MiyuMiyu 08-02-2011 12:07 AM

Let me first say that I am in no way against homosexual love/sexual relations/pairings/whatever, and am in fact pansexual myself.

That being said, I find the thought of reading or wanting to write a story specifically based on nothing but sexual orientation silly. Maybe it's just a personal opinion, but I like pairings based on character's personalities. Who cares whats in their pants? I have favorite pairings that are strait. I have favorite pairings involving homosexual males. I have favorite pairings that consist of lesbians. I don't put any above the other, because judging something based solely on its gender doesn't really tell you anything about the people themselves.

Of course, this argument only applies to stories, anime, roleplays, or whatever that contain a plot. If you're just reading or writing something to get your rocks off then I suppose the genders do play an important part of what would appeal to you.

Sho-Shonojo 08-02-2011 12:18 AM

Bargrim: Don't worry, not every yaoi fan ships characters. I prefer stories with original characters in relationships and not ones that are fanmade especially when there is no basis behind. I seriously need some proof behind a fan pairing before I can agree with it.

MiyuMiyu: I don't read yaoi just because it's too guys in a relationship. I have been turned off before by characters with the worst personalities ever. Like, there seems to be a trend in yaoi where you have the bad abusive boyfriend paired with the "I'm so girly I should be a chick". I can't stand these ones. Give me some real people that I can care about!

And while I prefer yaoi just because it's all guys, I also like reading straight pairings and every now and then a yuri if I'm in the mood.

MiyuMiyu 08-02-2011 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sho-Shonojo (Post 1769658011)
Bargrim: Don't worry, not every yaoi fan ships characters. I prefer stories with original characters in relationships and not ones that are fanmade especially when there is no basis behind. I seriously need some proof behind a fan pairing before I can agree with it.

MiyuMiyu: I don't read yaoi just because it's too guys in a relationship. I have been turned off before by characters with the worst personalities ever. Like, there seems to be a trend in yaoi where you have the bad abusive boyfriend paired with the "I'm so girly I should be a chick". I can't stand these ones. Give me some real people that I can care about!

And while I prefer yaoi just because it's all guys, I also like reading straight pairings and every now and then a yuri if I'm in the mood.

You bring up a good point. All too often though I'll see people who only enjoy certain anime or media because of the sexuality of the characters. I guess it's become something of a pet peeve for me. I don't really buy into the whole yuri or yaoi thing as a genre. I generally just call stuff by what the plot's mostly made up of, like romance, fantasy, horror, ect. If a series happens to contain gay connotations, wonderful, but I don't feel that it needs to be mentioned as an actual genre. I feel that it would be admitting that gay relationships are different than strait ones, which I don't believe is true.

Shotacon 08-02-2011 02:44 AM

*Must stare* Of all possible Yaoi based relationships out of Naruto, Sasu x Naru is the second most likely as far as the real storyline goes, second only to Gaa x Naru...... Not wanting to start a fight, but as far as fan fantasies go, Sasu x Naru is one of te likely possible ones.

MiyuMiyu 08-02-2011 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Shotacon (Post 1769658926)
*Must stare* Of all possible Yaoi based relationships out of Naruto, Sasu x Naru is the second most likely as far as the real storyline goes, second only to Gaa x Naru...... Not wanting to start a fight, but as far as fan fantasies go, Sasu x Naru is one of te likely possible ones.

I actually think I'd be able to see Naruto with Sasuke before Gaara. I'm a fan of the series myself, though I think I'm behind like five chapters in the manga. But yes. Very likely pairing. *nods*

Though Sasuke's general hatred of everything and everyone tends to get in the way of him getting any.

Sho-Shonojo 08-02-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MiyuMiyu (Post 1769658176)
You bring up a good point. All too often though I'll see people who only enjoy certain anime or media because of the sexuality of the characters. I guess it's become something of a pet peeve for me. I don't really buy into the whole yuri or yaoi thing as a genre. I generally just call stuff by what the plot's mostly made up of, like romance, fantasy, horror, ect. If a series happens to contain gay connotations, wonderful, but I don't feel that it needs to be mentioned as an actual genre. I feel that it would be admitting that gay relationships are different than strait ones, which I don't believe is true.

I can see what you mean there. Though if all of them were classified as simply romance, or drama there might be a mishap with people not looking for that kind of thing. I think labeling as yaoi or yuri calls out to those types of fans while also warning others that it may not be something they're interested. Of course, that only works if people know what the words means.

And now that I think about it, I've read a novel involving gay women and I don't think that had any special classification on it. So, I don't know.

PervertPrince 08-02-2011 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Obviously (Post 1769620187)
I believe this thread was asking our opinions on it I was simply stating that I hate it in general, I do read fanfiction ones that are not gay like that lol. I dont hate gay people or anything of the sort but I don't want to know anything about them in that sense. I get offended when people take characters I like and make them gay because its not ever going to happen. it could also be because I am a boy and completely straight so It probably would not be normal for me to like it anyways.

I did not post my opinion to be attacked about it yeessh all you fangirls attacking me for that is uncalled for seriously. I thought we were supposed to say what we thought not just if we liked it the poll even has a Hate it rage option so yeah. think about others opinions and don't attack them for it -_-

Huh? When were you attacked? I don't recall saying anything nasty about you or to you.
But sorry if I did say something to upset you. I didn't mean to.

MiyuMiyu 08-02-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sho-Shonojo (Post 1769661361)


I can see what you mean there. Though if all of them were classified as simply romance, or drama there might be a mishap with people not looking for that kind of thing. I think labeling as yaoi or yuri calls out to those types of fans while also warning others that it may not be something they're interested. Of course, that only works if people know what the words means.

And now that I think about it, I've read a novel involving gay women and I don't think that had any special classification on it. So, I don't know.

The same thing happened to me. I read Jaqueline Carey's novel Santa Olivia, in which the main heroine ended up falling in love with a female. It was never mentioned anywhere in the plot description, and I found it a pleasant surprise. The two characters were really cute together.

Laciful 08-02-2011 10:14 PM

I enjoy reading a good male/male romance since it shows the more passionate side of guys towards other guys. I mean society has stereotyped them into being rough tough men that like sports and if you read poetry or something you're a total wimp. I also hate saying how society treats homosexual people it's just not right. We've got our rights why not let us have them?

I don't care much for the sex parts in the older Yaoi but I do like the idea of guy romance it's quite adorable.

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Originally Posted by Obviously (Post 1769620187)
I believe this thread was asking our opinions on it I was simply stating that I hate it in general, I do read fanfiction ones that are not gay like that lol. I dont hate gay people or anything of the sort but I don't want to know anything about them in that sense. I get offended when people take characters I like and make them gay because its not ever going to happen. it could also be because I am a boy and completely straight so It probably would not be normal for me to like it anyways.

I did not post my opinion to be attacked about it yeessh all you fangirls attacking me for that is uncalled for seriously. I thought we were supposed to say what we thought not just if we liked it the poll even has a Hate it rage option so yeah. think about others opinions and don't attack them for it -_-

First of all no one was really attacking you and don't assume just because you hate it everyone's going to jump on you about it. If you hate it you hate it. There's ALWAYS going to be fanfictions of male characters in existence having homosexual relations. Don't read it if you don't like it that's just the point people are getting across. Honestly you shouldn't get offended when people take characters of the same gender and place them together you weren't the one who created them. Even if they weren't created for the fantasy of male on male everyone has the right in their love of fandom to do it. Point is you don't like it don't read. This is the internet and what happens on here you can't prevent from spreading.

Rusalka 08-02-2011 10:43 PM

I love it, and more than in the normal fangirl sense. At least I'd like to think that, it's often the only thing I RP, not due to only the fact that the idea of two men in a relationship is what turns my fancy. But even as a female, I cannot roleplay a female character because I relate more to the male gender than the female. It's more a way to live what I believe I should by via imagination when I cannot in real life.

I think it's more that than fangirldom.. but I know it can seem that way when it comes to me.

Laciful 08-02-2011 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusalka (Post 1769662620)
I love it, and more than in the normal fangirl sense. At least I'd like to think that, it's often the only thing I RP, not due to only the fact that the idea of two men in a relationship is what turns my fancy. But even as a female, I cannot roleplay a female character because I relate more to the male gender than the female. It's more a way to live what I believe I should by via imagination when I cannot in real life.

I think it's more that than fangirldom.. but I know it can seem that way when it comes to me.

Doesn't seem to fangirlish to me. In my opinion I think if it makes you feel comfortable for not only with who you are but also with a gender you can associate with it makes understanding things a lot easier. My boyfriend god bless his sweet soul identifies himself as being in between genders. So I can see where you are coming from with this.

Aerinn 08-03-2011 05:36 AM

I don't go out of my way to read/watch yaoi. When I stumble across any, I get a bit flustered, but I can handle it. And I know a lot of girls just love it, but I'm pretty indifferent about it. :sweat:

Sho-Shonojo 08-03-2011 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MiyuMiyu (Post 1769662525)
The same thing happened to me. I read Jaqueline Carey's novel Santa Olivia, in which the main heroine ended up falling in love with a female. It was never mentioned anywhere in the plot description, and I found it a pleasant surprise. The two characters were really cute together.


MiyuMiyu: OMG That is exactly the same book that I was talking about. O.O

They are a cute pairing. :) Not to be of topic but have you read her other books?


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