Thank you, Jelly c:

I can only dance around a topic for so long. Sometime I need to bring out the baseball bat. Something like this doesn't need minced words, flowery phrases, or sugar coating. It needs to be beat with a stick and put up on a bulletin board right next to the water cooler. The 18+ waters are deep and dark ares where you won't be able to use your floaties because the sharks will eat you, chew you up and spit you back out if you're not prepared. It's not a place to tread out into tentatively, you either can swim with the sharks or go to shallower waters.

We do allow for adult discussions and topics here. If you want to talk about beer, go right ahead, I'll join in. Beer is not a 18+ topic, it's an 18+ drink (depending on your country). If you want to talk about that crazy party you had where you did keg stands, eh go for it just know that I will judge you. I don't have issue with you talking about things that are adult in nature. But if you want to talk about how big that dude's dick was, or your crazy swinger key parties, NO. We are not taking drug forums either, we don't care how much Meth you created/did and no one here needs to know either.

Another thing that many of you may not be attuned to. 18+ forums bring out the trolls in full. I don't think you guys want to deal with a full force of ANON. They are many and they are aware. For the most part they leave us alone because we are small and "not worth it" also we are well modded. Most attempts they take are cut off before too many take notice. If there was an 18+ forum we would be opening the floodgates to the trouble they bring; fields of dicks, child porn, bestiality, anything and everything because Rule 34 does exist.

You can have your adult discussions and hangouts. But I do not support the creation of an 18+ forum. Also keep your raunchy RPs to yourself.

At that point, ~LONGCAT~, I don't want any of that other added stuff either. That's WELL beyond what I find acceptable.

In all honesty I just would like a place away from public view that I could talk privately amongst friends, yet still rack up coins for doing so as otherwise I know you'd probably say 'why not take it to a PM'.

But for the porn, hard core drugs, etc....ew no thanks at all.

jellysundae: I was wondering if you could take me off the pen pal list, because I am honestly not sure how much longer I will be on Mene - like I may be leaving all together - and I won't really be of much help to you. Sorry if it's a hassle.

Oh, ok Nemo, if you're sure? It's no hassle [hug]

@nemo.love I can speak with 99.9% certainty that nobody is going to be upset with you for needing to take a break from Mene or not check e-mails. I must say that however your phrasing leaves me a bit geninely concerned. I know that I could be wrong, but it implies at the very least that you might be stressed out. Also, things could be not quite 'okay'. Not asking for details in a public place of course, but I'm open to talk if you'd like. I have plenty of experience arm-wrestling with life, myself!

Jelly: I'm sure.

Crow: I've been feeling this way for awhile. What I'm considering is leaving all together (like fully quitting), not just a break...

I find that hard to imagine because I know full well that menewsha is apparently okay with showing a strap-on to those underage, albeit for a day... Just because I want a separate forum for 18+ doesn't mean I want it for pornography. I just find it really odd to talk about adult topics on a PG-13 site. Anyway, if we had a 18+ forum you can still set rules on what's not allowed, like pornography. I don't know, sometimes I feel like this site isn't suitable for those below 18 years of age. It doesn't matter, though, because it's true that I'm perfectly fine with the way the forum is now. There are times when I think it looks way too kiddy due to the colors, though...

I just have to say I find it kind of funny, Kent, that you're talking about the site inappropriate for a younger audience and you're avatar has this kind of streaker vibe to it. ;)

I get what you mean...looks can be deceiving. I think we do balance it out alright, and in all honesty at the end of the day I really do feel that it is a parent's responsibility to be proactive in what their child is involved in and if they find it unsuitable for their child fair enough -- they can enforce they don't come here, block it, etc.

Yep...choking the chicken is slang for pleasing oneself. (I'm actually disappointed I never got one as I thought the item/idea was pretty funny)

I don't mind that...as it is fairly tame (I mean it's a rubber chicken...), and if you were a younger kid you would really 'get' the joke. If you look at a movie like Shrek even that had little bits of adult humor hidden inside a movie that is suppose to be for little kids. (It made it more entertaining for adults to watch, for sure.)

I also know of the other suggestive item you've made reference to and I didn't really find any harm in that (the avatar prank with the pixelated strap on..yeah that)...that being said I remember there were people that thought that went a little too far. I still think it wasn't out of hand and thought it was nice to see that the staff had a sense of humor.

I do agree that there is a fine line as to how much is too far, but I don't ever feel like it's ever been crossed.

I never know "choking a chicken" was sexual slang? I always thought that is just what those items were called in real life...since it literally looks like you are choking a chicken D:

No matter how you go about it, inside jokes like that or a full on 18+ forum there's always going to be people that see it as too far. [roll]

Also I totally didn't know that about the chicken either [lol]

It wasn't me Iku [angel]

*hides stolen keys*

The one thing I know is that people will always disagree, no matter what decision you make. I think it is the whole "the grass is greener on the other side" mentality. Also, given the fact that things being taken "too far" is rather subjective, unless there is a quantitative list of what is not allowed...

I see the benefits but am also share worries about the potential "can of worms". Is there a way to survey the members of the site to see what they think?

Yknow... we're allowed to have 18+ threads. I made one a while back and people seem to do just fine just so long as you aren't going into detail or posting pictures. I believe conversation has only really reached borderline a couple times.

As nice as an 18+ forum would be, it's not needed due to this:
That way mature topics stay away from those too young... even if they are already exposed to it >.>"

I mean really though... how far into detail do you have to get with a conversation? You can switch to skype or something if you want to go into details...

Did ANY of you people read Longcat's post at the top of the page?


She laid things out very plainly, pointing out just what kind of peril we'd be laying ourselves open to if we allowed 18+.


It is not going to happen, it's as simple as that. There will be no discussion about this. I'm not an unreasonable person, you all know this, but this is not a subject where I am willing to budge. I will respectfully ask you people who are still pushing to get your heads out of your butts.

Just for the record, Jelly....I'm not pushing for it. I mentioned it thinking it sounded like a good idea, and was discussing how I felt like Menewsha has done a good job appeasing both sides...

I just kind of felt like your last comment may of been directed at me...

I cannot directly speak for Jelly, but I feel that was directed mostly at the conversation as a whole.

I don't think she meant anyone, specifically, either. Yet even I still feel a twinge guilty... I wasn't "pushing for" anything... except for maybe getting even MORE opinions. However, I completely see and understand that there are so many potential dangers, that I suppose the risks are too nebulous.

Anyways, I'm sure that if we all put our heads together, we could think of ways to improve Mene or go in a different direction to help make this already great place even better.

oh I don't believe suggestions are discouraged, just that one in particular.

Oh sure, you can discuss it. I meant I'm not, as in, discuss this with a view to it happening :)