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nocturnal miyu 02-28-2008 11:33 PM

i get flamed a lot too, but i've learned to live with it and most of the time not care... which is kinda bad cuz sometimes people are being stupid, but other times it's people that care and just wanted to give me some critique... ^^;

xuvrette 02-28-2008 11:55 PM

How about like this?
Only take in critiques that is true and you feel rerasonable? and ignore the rest? XD

Seito 02-29-2008 02:23 AM

Seito tries her hardest to ignore the bad ones. >>

Still tend to make her bum and depressed for a few hours.

nocturnal miyu 02-29-2008 06:53 AM

meave
actually what i meant is that sometimes they're so much flaming that you can't really tell which ones are actually critiqes... XD

xuvrette 02-29-2008 02:06 PM

Well in that case, ignore ALL of them. wahaha.
and find other people to give critiques.

Seito 02-29-2008 05:44 PM

*dances through the thread*

Cami 02-29-2008 05:54 PM

I just don't even get critiques. xD That always makes me paranoid.

o.o My stuff isn't even worth looking at? Or commenting on at all?

Seito 02-29-2008 06:03 PM

maybe they're too speechless in awe to say anything?

ToriKat 03-01-2008 07:25 AM

*surprised people talk in here* O_O It's really...true. *should really peek into the quests forum more often* O_O

Critiques? xD I barely even get comments anymore on my stuff on deviantART. Pfft, so I assume people aren't even looking at them. 8D

Which...is fine. >_> *hates evil criticism, never seems to get constructive ones*

Seito 03-01-2008 07:31 AM

*tackles TK* x3 <333

xuvrette 03-01-2008 11:50 AM

I thought DeviantART is the best place to get constructive comments since that website is FULL of artists.?

ToriKat 03-01-2008 11:58 AM

@Seito: *tackles back* xD

@xuvrette: You would think that. >_> But people are more likely to say, "That sucks," or "Your coloring is sucking balls." >_< Or just - the worst of all, "I like it." D:

xuvrette 03-01-2008 12:06 PM

...
Why? How can that be? Where is the spirit of DeviantART?

Silverbleed 03-01-2008 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by xuvrette
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Why? How can that be? Where is the spirit of DeviantART?

I have the same thing D: All I hear is "that looks good" or "awesome" or "that's great!"
Nothing extra. No things they think I should change next time or think of, or what they dislike about the picture so I can improve... >.<
Like a few years ago it was still C&C and not just commenting =(
I even think Menewsha is the best place for nice critism =O

*Joins randomly conversation x3

ToriKat 03-01-2008 12:13 PM

@xuvrette: I think it's the same as what happened at Gaia. Conversations dwindled down to "bumpbumpbumpbumpbump." So...useful comments over at deviantART became, "Cool."

@Silverbleed: Hello there! :D *nodnod in agreement* Quite disheartening, but...I guess that's what happens. Dx

*is too shy to post her art on Mene though* xD I think I've been spoiled from not getting negative constructive criticism that I
might get a tad too sensitive?

Silverbleed 03-01-2008 12:19 PM

@Tori; Awww I want to see x3 I'm sure it's pretty good!
I don't like some critism either though. I want them to stay nice, and not just negative xD

xuvrette 03-01-2008 12:19 PM

Tori, try me~
XD I love giving comments. :twisted:

ToriKat 03-01-2008 12:24 PM

@Silverbleed: *wandered to stare at your art* O_O

>_>; Wish I had more...monies to...buy something like what you did for shosho. xD *thinks they're beautiful* If people criticize you...goodness, then I'm truly crap. xD

@xuvrette: o_o Nuuu...*shakes head*

Silverbleed 03-01-2008 12:24 PM

Hey xuvrette :3
Oh you do? Try me try me! x3

edit; @Tori; Aww =o I'm not expensive x3 Yet.. Ahaha.
Thank you very much! :3
NO you're not crap D< Don't compare to other people.
Compare = bad
If I'd start comparing, I'm crap too xD

xuvrette 03-01-2008 12:29 PM

Tori... don't be like that~ *pulls Tori's sleeves*
I like to comment~~~

Silverbleed! Well, for yours, I would understand why people don't have comments for you. :lol:

I might give the same answer to Tori too. wahaha.

ToriKat 03-01-2008 12:36 PM

@Silverblood: How much are you looking for art in that style? xD *would seriously buy a few* I should really read for myself...but I've been at work for six and a half hours and it's 6:30am...so I'm dying. 8D /excuses

@xuvrette: ...

*pries a few from her dA*
http://torikat.deviantart.com/art/Se...-2007-72888508
For me, the anatomy of her abdomen is off. I was trying to do perspective, then had a screw it, I need to get this done ASAP attitude. xD The white hurts my tired eyes.

http://torikat.deviantart.com/art/Sy...iseki-76669783
THE COLORING IS BAD. :D

*runs away in shame*

Silverbleed 03-01-2008 12:50 PM

*Tickles xuvre x3*
Well they DID have alot of critism before. Especially my dad does. There's always something he has to say about my art. I actually don't like it, but he means it in a good way.

@Tori; It depends on what style you're looking for xD Unfortunately I also have a shop on Gaia and it became huuuge... so I'll probably need to finish a few commissions there first before I can sell the big arts here. Right now I'm only doing headshots.

Wow, I think that's really beautiful. You have a very elegant style, I like that :3
Don't worry about the coloring. I'm still horrible too, so I'm still practising and trying out new styles.
I mean, I've made a headshot lately in a style I though I never could do. But I guess I could. I just never tried x3
You should try it too!

xuvrette 03-01-2008 12:54 PM

TOri, I sure hope you are not so soft and timid to the extent of you will go abandon drawing~

Secret Santa ~ Well, you notice that the white is too bright. If it is not the style, then I would suggest shading them. give a few strokes of different grey to create texture and 3D.
Maybe you meant the fluffy are under the skirt instead of like a lace along the skirt, so if it is that case, then it is fine. If you meant it to be like a lace to them hem of the skirt, then I would suggest layer the fluffy on top of the skirt.
I am not sure what perspective you are mentioning. Do you mean perspective of picture looking down or up?
The background look nice, if the white swirl are wind, then I don't think it looks natural to me. The way it curves is like forming a tornado... XD but it could happen in real life, I have impression of those swirl to be in snowstorm which no people should be out at that time. SO I am expecting a fairly curve swirl. If you add more glow or shinyness for the swirl, or snowflakes/snow following the swirl, then I could think of it as like a magic dust, which show the sudden appearance of the girl.
PS : maybe you might not notice, but the fluffy of the skirt and the fluffy bracelet on the hand holding the bag is clashing. There should be some grey as shadow on the bracelet. Or if I got the MAIN light source correct, then the whole arm holding the bag would be around 10% darker.
For a ASAP attitude, I would say, overall it looks awesome! O_O

Sylira's Kiseki ~ I am not sure why do you say the colouring is bad. Well, there are WORSE colouring I had seen, mostly children's and amateur's scribbles. I notice the hair that falls on the black shirt, the end of the hair doesn't look like your style applied on teh hair that falls on the face. The hair of the face matches your overall colouring. but the hair falls on the black shirt just seem like hard chopped off trimming.
and the hand that put in trousers, should be a bit more wrinkle... unless the trouser have really really wide pocket. Which I notice isn't...XD

....Are youo crying now?
*hugs*

Silverbleed 03-01-2008 01:01 PM

Well one thing is sure Tori, you got it in yourself to become an awesome artist :3 I'd love to help you out if you want it. Just give a scream xD

xuvrette 03-01-2008 01:06 PM

I remember there was a thread discussing about the difference between style and mistakes in the Art Discussion Forum.
Until now I am still not so sure what is the differences. So before I give comment, I would ask, WHAT is your STYLE? XD


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