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Hollie 05-27-2007 08:19 PM

ED's
 
ED's.

I am sure each and every one of you knows someone or knows of someone who has one. If not, look in the media, 99% of celebrities suffer from them, or so it seems.

I have anorexia. It kills me to admit it, because it sounds so awful like that, but I do. I have been struggling with my self perception since 7th grade, and I constantly feel the need to 'perfect' myself though lack of food.
Screwed up much? Considering I actually realize this.

In your opinion, what causes ED's? Is having one a choice?
Do you have one? Know anyone who has one?

ljosberinn 05-27-2007 08:43 PM

I'm glad you at least are willing to admit it, because thats the first step towards getting better, right? :]

I don't know anyone personally that I know has eating disorders, but there are quite a few people around my friends who has them.
There was one girl at school, sister of a girl I know, a couple of years back who had an eating disorder, I'm not sure whether it was anorexia or bulimia, or both. But it was so painful to watch her, her skin looked very yellow, whenever she walked, it looked like a skeleton walking and very unnatural, her clothes looked like they were size XS, but they looked baggy on her, her cheeks were infallen, her hair looked like your hair looks when you're really sick (=flat), etc. I think she's gotten better though, or at least I sincerely hope so. :/
My best friend's sister had both anorexia and bulimia, but she's gotten better now. She has a kid and looks really great, but she still has to go to meetings and get help for it, she's in the twelve step system.

I think that it's at least partly genetic, just like alcoholism and such. It's an obsession and an addiction, if you are by nature prone to become addicted, there's a bigger risk that you'll get an ED. But I do think it can also be blamed on society and our distorted view on how people should look.

I myself am scared on dieting or thinking too much about what I eat and such, because I often get thoughts that are of the kind a person with an eating disorder would think. And it scares me. So, if I do start thinking more about what I eat or anything, I'm going to have to remember to be very careful, otherwise I'm so scared I might lose myself in it. :/

Good luck with overcoming your disorder! From the photo in your signature, you're a beautiful girl with a stunning face. (Something I've thought since I saw it first, not saying it only because of this thread..)

Much love. <3

Tea 05-27-2007 08:52 PM

There are a lot of people who think I am anorexic, bu I don't really know If I actually am or not.

stilettolover 05-27-2007 08:57 PM

I am a recovering anorexic. There is no cure for ED, only management. Mostly now I am very happy with myself and I love food so much I don't know how I ever could have restricted myself for so long... but then there are days where I want to get rid of everything in my kitchen, where it will take me hours to decide to eat. I have to give myself a time limit when going to the grocery store because I will spend hours reading nutrition labels.

EDs are caused by a great many things. Stress, depression, anxiety. For many it has to do with control. Sometimes for people the only thing they have control over is their appearance and the easiest way to control that is by managing your intake.

It is and isn't a choice. It's a compulsion. But you have to want to get better. If you don't no ammount of intervention will help.

Pearl 05-27-2007 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stilettolover
I am a recovering anorexic. There is no cure for ED, only management. Mostly now I am very happy with myself and I love food so much I don't know how I ever could have restricted myself for so long... but then there are days where I want to get rid of everything in my kitchen, where it will take me hours to decide to eat. I have to give myself a time limit when going to the grocery store because I will spend hours reading nutrition labels.

EDs are caused by a great many things. Stress, depression, anxiety. For many it has to do with control. Sometimes for people the only thing they have control over is their appearance and the easiest way to control that is by managing your intake.

It is and isn't a choice. It's a compulsion. But you have to want to get better. If you don't no ammount of intervention will help.

Yes, what you said was kind of like this program I watched about anorexia recently... it helped me to understand and realise what causes the mental disorder to have such an unhealthy attitude to food and weight.

Though, I also thought how I would be the star patient at this home for anorexics. ^^;
That's a bit stupid... but that's what my mind wandered off on.

Caroline 05-27-2007 09:47 PM

  • Uhm... .5-1% of the population suffers from anorexia nervosa and 3%-4% suffers from bulimia nervosa. Mary-Kate and Lindsay Lohan both had a cocaine addiction and Nicole Richie was stressed out. Just because celebrities lose weight doesn't mean they have all have eating disorders. http://www.menewsha.com/images/smiles/icon_neutral.gif

    Eating disorders are never a choice. Ever. They are mental disorders. I believe some cases are genetic and some happen when people with a personality prone to eating disorders (perfectionistic, intelligent, ambitious, determined, etc.) go through some sort of trauma such as sexual, physical, or intense and long-lasting verbal abuse, or some other sort of major life-altering event. I've known people who had an eating disorder as young as seven and had issues with food as young as three or four. Most of the people I know who developed an eating disorder at a young age had a parent with an eating disorder as well, so I believe those cases are genetic.

    I hate how many people think they're anorexic these days like it's a cool new trend. They'll never know what it's like to hate themselves so much, and they should be grateful they don't have a mental disorder with the highest death rate. I know several people in their twenties and thirties who have been battling an eating disorder for over a decade. I know people who have been hospitalised repeatedly, on the verge of death (I actually have a friend who is now attempting recovery from anorexia for a third time, and he has actually DIED for a few seconds once... if his therapist had not forced him into the hospital the day before, at 5'8" and 88 lbs, he might not be alive today...), only to relapse each time they were released. They are terrible disorders and I wish people would stop taking them so lightly.

Knerd 05-28-2007 07:58 PM

I'm a recovered anorexic.

In my particular case, the eating disorder had absolutely nothing to do with my self image or self esteem. I knew I wasn't fat, and I wasn't trying to lose weight. It was simply a form of OCD. I worked out in order to get in shape, and dieted in order to remain healthy. It became a sort of obsession. I tried all these different things in order to live a better lifestyle, and it wasn't until I was so far gone that I realized how much it was truly hurting me.

Living in the United States, it's drummed into our brains how our society is suffering from so much obesity and dietic problems. I kept that in mind without fully realizing that it didn't apply to me. I wanted to get away from the stereotypical American slob. Instead, I fell victim to the super-thin 'celebrity' disease.

Neko Neko Kitty 05-28-2007 09:55 PM

I've never been anorexic, but I have always been very close to having some form of an eating disorder. I was a dancer most of my life and I just don't have the ideal body type for it. So I constantly struggled with trying to get skinnier. Plus my mom was fat as a kid of she's a bit obsessive and even though I danced, did gymnastics, ran, and did martial arts every day she felt I never exercised and limited how much I could eat. On the reverse side I have bi-polar disorder and when I'm on the low end I tend to be a comfort eater unless there's no food around so I just starve myself.

Now I have a ruptured disk in my spine and knees that bend inward so I'm not able to exercise like I used to so I beat myself up about that a lot especially since I used to train in gymnastics competitively.

Dannigirl 05-28-2007 10:25 PM

Well, an eating disorder in my opinion may be cause by being afraid to be overweight, other people teasing about someone if they are overweight, stress, depression,and aniexty, and many more things.

From your signature, you look very pretty.^_^
((Luff teh eyes.They are prettyful<3333))
Your too lovely to have an eating disorder. ;3
But atleast knowing you are and not trying to hide it is a good thing.Maybe ask someone you know you can trust to help you with you problem.And try to get encouragments from family members and friends.They could probably help you.Im sure they want you to be nice and healthy.

Sammi 05-28-2007 11:58 PM

I love Caroline for her post. Because I agree, with ALL of it.

Anorexia and Bulimia are terms that are so thrown around lately - it's sooo hard to tell who has one and who doesn't because of that. I had an "eating problem" a few years ago but I would never go so far to say that it was anorexia - I did deprive myself of food but it was only for a short time because my family intervened, and the lowest I dropped down to was in the 90s. But I actually was kind of chubby, so it's not like I was ever skin and bones. It sprung from me hating myself, and sometimes I still fight it, but I definitely would not call it anorexia, especially since I was able to fight it on my own. :/

makisan 05-29-2007 12:35 AM

I think ED`s start out in a sneaky way for some, but then powerfully for others.
Some psychiatrists say ED`s are strongly linked to other mental illness such as depression, anxiety disorder and obsessive compluslive disorder. There is a strong feeling that one needs to *perfect* oneself, yet we never achieve it, because as soon as one goal of *perfection* is achieved, it suddenly doesn`t seem good enough anymore and a new more difficult goal is set.
I do believe it has much to do not just with celebrities, but the glorification of being the size 0 all over western, and some eastern societies. It seems they have put that *0* on a pedestal and a bright light shines on it and a big sign behind it says "Welcome to Perfection! =B~! Fix your nose! It can be improved!". I rarely buy women`s fashion magazines because Im tired of looking at that dead-eyed 14 year old who weighs 80lbs but is dressed up to look 30 sprawled everywhere to sell me an overpriced bag. However I think many of us can be weak to these messages no matter how much we hate them or how much we dont want to listen. So if a girl or guy decide "That does it, Im going to lose weight if it kills me". We live in a society of convenience and wanting everything yesterday. So often people will choose the fastes route no matter how unhealthy, and for some poor individuals, it gets out of their control.
Many time Body Dysmorphic Disorder kicks in and a person is never able to see themselves for how thin they truly are. They see someone who is chubby, or average, basically not thin enough. Or, they don`t believe they are thin unless and until they can fit into a size 0 jeans. Some people have a bone frame that would never be that small.
I remember visiting a friend in a hospital psych ward and there was an anorexic on the ward (though technically, she was a recovering anorexic and was in hospital for compulsive hand-washing and showering 20 times a day. She was so nice, and it was so unfortunate, her hands had to be covered in a thick cream all day and she would hold them out in front of her. Bandaging them was too hard on her delicate skin).
She looked at my friend and I and held out a small apple. She asked us if we thought the apple was too big. Would it contain too many calories? Would it make her a pig to eat it? My friend told her he couldnt remember the last time an apple made a person spontaneously blimp out and as far as he was concerned, its one of those foods that just CANT make you fat XD. Then he called her a "bookmark" (which he did because he knew that referring to her body as a bookmark would make her happy and she ate the apple).
Its true not everyone is anorexic or bulimic, and its possible these celebrities are not..however there are also a variety of ED-NOS. Eating disorders that dont classify YET as anorexia or bulimia. Here, clinically in order to be anorexic your Body Mass Index must fall below a certain level (I think it`s 15.5). But that doesn`t mean there are not a zillion people out there killing themselves to be thin, but just havent achieved a weight that low yet.
I think the government should step in >:/. I was a big fan of the Madrid Fashion week model ban. I was disappointed when other countries didnt follow suit. I think if there were a variety of healthy girls both at the low end, and higher ends of the healthy weight range in common use for modelling, the world would be a lot nicer to live in.

Mäsochïsm` 05-29-2007 01:19 AM

I'm constantly accused of an ED.
I'm six foot tall and I weigh 116.
But I'm healthy as a horse, says my doctor. I'm just naturally lean--everyone gets mad at me though.
It makes me feel worse about myself and then I really DO stop eating--then everyone's all nice. I start to eat again and suddenly I'm anorexic again. -___-; I don't like being played with mentally like that, and I know they don't mean to, but it's really wearing me out.

It's wonderful you can admit your problem--I had to admit there was something wrong with me too, though, I wont go into detail.
I hope you can get help, and I don't mean that in a chiding way. I mean it as in I hope you'll feel okay enough with yourself to find help, and that someone you find wont take judgment out on you--that was always my fear.

Rusalka 05-29-2007 02:04 AM

Okay, good. Not that it is good but I was thinking of something totally different...

Everyone thinks I have an eating disorder but it's more along the lines that I can only stand one meal a day without getting sick... or rather if I force myself to eat I get sick and so I don't eat. I only have one meal a day but it's generally a large meal which is why my mom doesn't really care but everyone else is trying to force me to eat when I can't.. it's rather annoying on my part...

stilettolover 05-29-2007 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Kale Dragonheart
Okay, good. Not that it is good but I was thinking of something totally different...

=O No one here is in need of Viagra.

Rusalka 05-29-2007 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by stilettolover
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kale Dragonheart
Okay, good. Not that it is good but I was thinking of something totally different...

=O No one here is in need of Viagra.

:oops: I figured that out now. The title is misleading.

trinxie 05-29-2007 07:34 AM

99% celebrities have EDs? I think you got your percentages wrong there :O

So many people are suffering from these EDs.. Maybe the media is getting to people? Some are probably compelled to be thin like the people they see on tv/fashion magazines.

Models become anorexic/bulimic because a lot of them have to be a certain weight. My friend told me she quit being a model because the agency was expecting her to be at 80lbs for her 5'11 height.
Crazy.

Tea 05-29-2007 08:20 PM

If I am 22 pounds under weight does that make me anorexic?

`Ari 05-29-2007 08:31 PM

In your opinion, what causes ED's? Is having one a choice?

I think ED's are cause by both a trait that a parent can pass down to their children and a psychological hurt. For example if some little girl has the trait to get an ED but is always told by her mother how skinny she is she won't become bulimic/anorexic unless something makes her think she's fat. At the same time though I think it could all just be in one's head, I wouldn't know.

Do you have one? Know anyone who has one?

I've been told so many times by my mother that I must be anorexic simply because I don't eat dinner. One part of my almost wants to be anorexic (for reasons I cannot explain even to myself) but with so much media about anorexia and so on I've become weary of my eating habits. I know several people I thin have an ED but they're not close enough to me for me to be able to tell for sure.

j00lian 05-29-2007 11:17 PM

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    What's ED?
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Knerd 05-29-2007 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by j00lian
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    What's ED?
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Depending on the context, it's either Erectile Dysfunction or Eating Disorder.

Here, it stands for Eating Disorder.

LessThanThree 05-29-2007 11:23 PM

j00lian - I only found that out a few days ago when I friend came to me for advice. Anyways. ED - Easting Disorders.

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I've got a friend who's girlfriend is bulimic.

It's such a confusing situation though, she used to not understand why people would do that, but now she's all.

"People tell me that I could die, but I don;t care, I jsut want to be thinner"

And it's like her morales or whatever they're called (priorities?) have changed and she seems like a different person.

These days, I think it's all down to the media and peer pressure. Most people succumb to it in the end. Note - not all, jsut some.

j00lian 05-29-2007 11:28 PM

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    Thanks.
    I think I have one. X3


    All I had to eat or drink today was a couple of cookies, and some lemonade.
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Runihura 05-29-2007 11:38 PM

Having one, in most cases, is not a choice. It's a mental disorder.

I have diet issues but not an eating disorder. Mainly it's cause I'm too busy to eat on schedule xD Course now my metalbolisms screwed up and I have to work to get it back <<;

LessThanThree 05-29-2007 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by j00lian
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    Thanks.
    I think I have one. X3


    All I had to eat or drink today was a couple of cookies, and some lemonade.
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Is that daily though? Or just a one off?

People with EDs do it over a period of time and can become rather sick.

mesic 05-30-2007 07:17 PM

I'm a recovering bulimic. I say "recovering" because I don't feel that anyone can really "be fixed" after they've fought an ED.

I think a lot of my problem was in the expectations of those around me. My mother used to be an aerobics instructor and an uber healthnut, as were all of her friends, so I grew up around a bunch of super-skinny, low-body fat women. When I started getting tall (I'm nearly 5'9") and growing into a pretty curvy body, I started panicking and wondering why I was so "huge". I remember being 12 years old, laying in the bathtub, wondering why my stomach and thighs were so big. I used to worry that people would think I was pregnant because my stomach was "so fat".
At the health club my mother worked at, I was nicknamed "Baby Beluga" and "Huffalump" because I had a bit of baby fat at 14. Her friends thought it was really funny, but I've been haunted by those nicknames all of my life.

By the age of 18, I would be sick if I ate enough to actually feel full. ... I would just vomit uncontrollably if I ate more than a tiny portion at every meal. I started using cocaine when I moved out of my family home because I heard it would suppress my appetite and make me thinner.

I came home, went through hellish withdrawl to get off the coke, and started smoking pot to keep myself from throwing up everything I ate. I peaked at 180 lbs. and then forced myself to get control and lose the weight... through diet and exercise. I'm 130 now...
... and constantly in fear of relapsing. I still think I could stand to lose 10 more pounds, and then I could be really, truly happy with myself. I have to battle with my guilt to eat sometimes, and its really hard to shut up the voices in my head trying to convince me that there are "easier" ways to lose that last 10 pounds.

So yeah, eating disorders kind of suck. I don't think anything I did was a "choice", just a really fucked up way of being molded by expectations and fear of being "fat".


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