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Muggles Running Amok 06-20-2007 10:15 PM

I know it's mean, and they hate it, but they sound SO STUPID
 


I'm not perfect. And I know nobody is. I'm not perfect at grammar either, but I honestly try to be as close as I can to perfect when it comes to grammar. But when the people I love carelessly fling their words and contractions around, it drives me insane, and it's really hard not to correct them. They say things like, "There's trees over there.", mainly like the biggest issue people have is saying "there's" when they should be saying "there are" or even "there're". It just bugs the crap out of me, and I often have to stop myself from doing it because of how much I hang out with these people.
I love my friends and family, but their (example right there. I almost said 'they're grammar sucks' and had to retype it.) grammar sucks sometimes, and they hate it when I correct them. I know I should just live with it, but if I ignore it, I'll start making mistakes unconsciously, and I don't want that.

How can I learn to ignore it, because it doesn't bother them when they do it, but make sure it doesn't rub off on me??


tentenpuff 06-20-2007 10:43 PM


I think I know what you mean.

I hate it when people go "<so and so's name> and me are..."

Because we learned how to say it correctly in first grade, and we're in middle school. =________=;;

What I usually is stare them down until they correct themselves, but that might just bother your family and friends even more.

xD;;

I guess one way is to just cope. I mean, I don't think they make grammar mistakes ALL the time, right? If they just make mistakes sparingly, or not too much, I don't think it's enough to affect you.

But if they say it about three times in a five-minutes span, maybe you should try to rub off on them. Even though they hate it, it's probably good for their grammar, and maybe after a while they'll get the hang of not saying it..?

^^;

I mean, one of my friends stopped saying the "<soandso'sname> and I" thing because she always remembers that I would correct her, so she started correcting herself.

At least, when I'm with her.

xD;

Muggles Running Amok 06-20-2007 11:01 PM



xD Thanks. Yeah, I'm pretty sure staring at them until they get what I'm staring at will bother them. I tried something sort of like that yesterday. I just made like a wounded sound, sort of an inward hiss, and he was just like, "...What?" "Nope, no, nothing..." "What? Tell me." "Well you should have said..." lol.

They don't do it sparingly, but they don't do it three times in a five minute span. Probably between like three times in an hour to three times in a thirty minute span.. It all depends on who I'm with. So many people do it that I'm outnumbered. I probably wouldn't be able to rub off on them because I'm just one person who tries to say everything correctly. I tell my boyfriend I do it to him because I love him and I KNOW he's smarter than that, plus I don't want people thinking he's a retard when it's a well known fact that I love him partly for his intelligence. (Going to be a freshmen in pre-cal. -swoon-) It really gets people mad when I correct them, so I want to do it as little as possible... I really, really don't want to give them the impression that I think I'm superior or that I'm patronizing them.

But there's like, no way to correct someone without sounding like you're correcting someone, now, is there?


tentenpuff 06-20-2007 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Muggles Running Amok


xD Thanks. Yeah, I'm pretty sure staring at them until they get what I'm staring at will bother them. I tried something sort of like that yesterday. I just made like a wounded sound, sort of an inward hiss, and he was just like, "...What?" "Nope, no, nothing..." "What? Tell me." "Well you should have said..." lol.

They don't do it sparingly, but they don't do it three times in a five minute span. Probably between like three times in an hour to three times in a thirty minute span.. It all depends on who I'm with. So many people do it that I'm outnumbered. I probably wouldn't be able to rub off on them because I'm just one person who tries to say everything correctly. I tell my boyfriend I do it to him because I love him and I KNOW he's smarter than that, plus I don't want people thinking he's a retard when it's a well known fact that I love him partly for his intelligence. (Going to be a freshmen in pre-cal. -swoon-) It really gets people mad when I correct them, so I want to do it as little as possible... I really, really don't want to give them the impression that I think I'm superior or that I'm patronizing them.

But there's like, no way to correct someone without sounding like you're correcting someone, now, is there?



xDD

Hmm...

Gather up a bunch of Language Arts teachers and outnumber them and then rub off on them?

xDD;;

Um...The only thing I can really think of at the moment is probably just ignore it. After time they'll probably start using correct grammar and everything. Hopefully they don't rub off on you by then..?

^^;;;

I know! Send them lots and lots of books on their birthdays and on special occasions. xDD Surely they'll get better grammar! [/badidea]

xD;;

Muggles Running Amok 06-20-2007 11:20 PM



xD I'm hoping it'll go away by the time school starts. I've heard great things about the teacher who teaches 9th grade English II, so yeah. All of my friends are taking the same English courses I am. So, I'm just hoping the teacher can rid them of their habit and give me candy for modeling good grammar or something. Then the other kids will want candy, too. lol. Or is that elementary school?

I guess, for right now, it's best to ignore it and just catch myself if I do something wrong. Thanks. <3


kimu 06-20-2007 11:23 PM

Ugh Dx Im sorry but I hate it when people get annoyed with that. We arnt all perfect, like you said before, cant we have a little fun without thinking too much about what we are saying to be correctly grammatized?

Wah, sorreh DDDx
Just try to focus on the main point of the conversation instead of the grammar in the coversation or sentence. Best advice I can give ^^'

tentenpuff 06-20-2007 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Muggles Running Amok


xD I'm hoping it'll go away by the time school starts. I've heard great things about the teacher who teaches 9th grade English II, so yeah. All of my friends are taking the same English courses I am. So, I'm just hoping the teacher can rid them of their habit and give me candy for modeling good grammar or something. Then the other kids will want candy, too. lol. Or is that elementary school?

I guess, for right now, it's best to ignore it and just catch myself if I do something wrong. Thanks. <3



xDD

No problem. ^^ I'm actually surprised my advice was helpful.

o0;;

But if it doesn't work, try introducing them to fanfiction or fictionpress.net or some really good series of books or whatever. xD;;

I think that reading helps grammar, spelling, and vocabulary. (at least it helped me...^^; )

Good luck~

Muggles Running Amok 06-20-2007 11:30 PM



Don't apologize. That's your honest opinion. ^^ Thanks for it!

I wouldn't mind it if it didn't distract from the main point of the conversation itself. It's harder to focus on the conversation that way because then your mind wanders with thoughts like, "Aren't they supposed to say ___...?" and then you've just missed a snippet of the conversation. And if you don't make note in your head of what they've said, your mind will learn to ignore it more and more until you do it yourself without noticing. So I can't not notice it, but I'll try to focus more on the main point without thinking too much about how what they've said is right or wrong.


Muggles Running Amok 06-20-2007 11:31 PM



Tentenpuff- They all read, like, a lot. It's really weird. I can only name like one or two of my friends who do it who don't read.
I guess they just don't write a lot.


tentenpuff 06-20-2007 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Muggles Running Amok


Tentenpuff- They all read, like, a lot. It's really weird. I can only name like one or two of my friends who do it who don't read.
I guess they just don't write a lot.



Hunh, that's strange.

Maybe it's the writing thing. Make them keep journals or something? [/probablyalsobadadvice]

xD;

kimu 06-20-2007 11:35 PM

Okkies ^^'

Lol, like you like to think a lot during conversations. HMM, maybeh think about two things at once? Maybeh that should help you toon out those notes? xD

Muggles Running Amok 06-20-2007 11:39 PM



Tenten, can I call you puffy? lol. I knowww, it is strange... My boyfriend's gotten a bit better since he joined Mene and Creppy and I made him type out his words. xD

One of them does AIM a lot, but she even does it wrong when she's instant messaging, so... yeah. Idunno. lol.

Kimu- Hrm. Maybe. I'll try that out when the situation arises. lol. It seems kind of hard though, I mean, when you really think about it.


tentenpuff 06-20-2007 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Muggles Running Amok


Tenten, can I call you puffy? lol. I knowww, it is strange... My boyfriend's gotten a bit better since he joined Mene and Creppy and I made him type out his words. xD

One of them does AIM a lot, but she even does it wrong when she's instant messaging, so... yeah. Idunno. lol.

Kimu- Hrm. Maybe. I'll try that out when the situation arises. lol. It seems kind of hard though, I mean, when you really think about it.



xDD

Sure, if you want. Hahahaha.

Maybe IM isn't that much help? I mean, usually, people would use chatspeak and txt tlk (but I think txt tlk was because of IM), instead of really typing things out and using the full range of vocabulary they learned.

For example, when I'm writing in my journal, I would use words that I learned that day to better help me remember them in the future (haha, yeah, I know.)(no, wait. actually I don't.). But on IM and all, I wouldn't because a) I'm afraid of using it wrong and b) some of my friends probably have no clue what it means. ^^;;

But I think that forcing your boyfriend to type things out would certainly help.

xD

Muggles Running Amok 06-20-2007 11:48 PM



The journal thing you do isn't something to laugh at. : P I admire that. I haven't learned a new word in ages. :(

Yeah, I understand about the IM thing. Oh well.. lol.


tentenpuff 06-20-2007 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Muggles Running Amok


The journal thing you do isn't something to laugh at. : P I admire that. I haven't learned a new word in ages. :(

Yeah, I understand about the IM thing. Oh well.. lol.



xDD

Aww, thanks. It's really because I've been re-reading a lot of my books lately, since it's summer, no school, which leads to insomnia. xD So I read my books during past-midnight time. Occasionally there would be words I don't know, so I would write them down, define them, and use them the next day.

xD


Masquerade 06-21-2007 12:42 AM

One way to manage is to ignore when minor issues crop up in speech, but make sure your grammar is absolutely perfect whenever you write something. That way you get the practice of keeping your grammar in check without driving your friends batty.

I've got a friend who uses "in which" all the time. She doesn't use it correctly most of the time. Drives me batty but I keep it to myself unless she's shoved it into a resume, paper, or other important document. Then I tell her how to fix it. Otherwise, it's just speech and not meant to be grammatically perfect.

Muggles Running Amok 06-21-2007 04:49 AM



Puffy- that makes sense. You just reminded me that I really, really need to keep reading my summer reading. D:

Masquerade- I never really thought of it that way... Thanks. xD


Melody 06-21-2007 05:15 AM

it bothers me too. i hate it when i see the mistakes in books. like professionaly edited and written books. @[email protected] I dont normally bother with grammar online or when im writing unless its for school but getting the proper word in is important. XP
i just ignore it generally. because it seems to be such a big deal for you in your mind i dont think you would unconsiously make the mistakes so dont worry about it. you can still correct them so that they know its wrong but if you get obsessive you may find yourself in the dog house and ostricized (sp?) since no one likes to be corrected constantly. <3

Muggles Running Amok 06-21-2007 05:53 AM



Yeah, I see what you mean. I'll keep that in mind, thanks!
and yeah I saw surf's up today.. Sometimes, when they were talking, it just didn't sound right. I couldn't put my finger on it, but it detracted from the already kind of stupid movie. So I know what you mean about professionally edited, yet still flawed, stuff.


yanyan13 06-21-2007 08:13 AM

maybe you'll get used to ignoring it some day. if they do not want to be corrected, you cant really do anything about it now can you? at least you tried..

-i-love-cake- 06-21-2007 08:58 AM

How can I learn to ignore it, because it doesn't bother them when they do it, but make sure it doesn't rub off on me??

try to be nice, and ask them nicely........ or....... just ignore it ^_^

xX Nightmare Angel Xx 06-29-2007 10:52 AM

I know what you mean D<

  • I'm also not perfect at grammar. I make mistakes now and then, but at least I'm trying. I occasionally correct people (including my friends) if it's truly dreadfull grammar or spelling. Although, there was one girl who really took the cake. I'll show you some examples:

    My way: Hi n__n. Today was a great day for me! How was yours?
    Her way: hI. 2dEyy wAs A gReaT deY f0r mEE! h0w WaS YoUrS??

    ._. Yes, it's always that annoying. There's another girl who has another irritating way of typing to me:

    My way: Hey <3! Can you come with me to see Spiderman 3?
    Her way: heys! can u cuM 2 spidrmn 3 wIt me?

    I'm sorry I'm so mean about it but it just bothers me incredibly. I ask if they can type out words every now and then when they talk to me. They don't respond and just continue on as if I didn't say anything >__>

Tuba 06-29-2007 03:22 PM

it dosnt bother me that much. i probably do stuff like that too.
plus i lived in a little town in wisconsin. grammer was nonexistant.

also, mistakes in books make make me happy. like typos and stuff. :D

Cami 06-29-2007 04:12 PM

The thing is, the english language is constantly changing. If enough people make a mistake, it will find itself into the rules. It's happened plenty of times in the past, and it will continue happening plenty of times in the future. No reason to stress over it.

Chi 06-29-2007 08:18 PM

I'd say try your best to ignore it. Like you said, no one's perfect, and if their flaws are mostly grammatical, that can't be all that bad, right? (Seriously, I can't stand poor grammar either. I don't know why it drives me batty.)

I am not perfect with my grammar and linguistics, either. The thing that makes me worry most is the environment I live in. People say things like, "That ain't no car, that's one of them vans!" or "He don't know any better."

I've seen it rub off on my sister, and now it's hitting my boyfriend. My sister used (she still is, mind) to be so smart, and I've never ever heard her verbal language turn into her "environment" until a few years ago. My boyfriend prides himself on his expansive vocabulary, and even he catches himself talking like the old fishermen here. He moved up here a little over a year ago.

He and I both catch ourselves pulling the talk here and die a little inside each time. xD Such is life though, right?


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