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twizted child eve 08-12-2007 02:34 PM

Hehehe. Yep. xD High speed for the win. 8)

Dragon 08-12-2007 03:22 PM

;o I hate it when you type something sarcastic and everyone ends up seeing it xD

Airll 08-12-2007 03:49 PM

I`ve heard of this too. :o


Comes from immigrants, or someone out of the country. xB


I love America, everything has flaws and not everything is perfect. :3

At least it's better than Vietnam, where beating your child is a lesson & allowed. x_________x;


:) I`m from out of the country, not born here, and a immigrant, and I love America. :O <3

Kris 08-12-2007 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Airll
I`ve heard of this too. :o


Comes from immigrants, or someone out of the country. xB


I love America, everything has flaws and not everything is perfect. :3

At least it's better than Vietnam, where beating your child is a lesson & allowed. x_________x;


:) I`m from out of the country, not born here, and a immigrant, and I love America. :O <3

I'm glad you like it here. :3

Steve the Garden Hose 08-12-2007 05:13 PM

Steve lives in Canada, but he doesn't hate Americans :|

Kris 08-12-2007 05:15 PM

I know not everyone does who isn't American, but this thread had a lot of people just saying how bad it was and how much they hate it. ^^; I'm sorry if you were insulted, it wasn't meant to insult anyone.

<w<

eternal_black_kiss 08-12-2007 07:12 PM

I like American people. I used to live there for 7 years. I don't like however their newsbroadcasting program and government. I hated when I watched the american news when they said,"Let's all honor this one soldier who died and worked so hard for his country." And then they give a 3 hour special and they show you his family crying. It's sad but then again, they never do that when 3000 people in Iraq died or something. They say that number so fast and as if other country's people's lives weren't important or something. "3456 civilians died today due to a bomb sent off from an american jet..." and then right after the weather or something. It's ridiculous! Other people's lives are just as important! And they shouldn't be so biased on television!

Alegretto 08-12-2007 10:31 PM

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I don't so much hate americans, but hate what America itself stands for.

My spider senses are tingling!

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Fastfood joints
No argument there. We don't STAND for it, though. We just... have a bunch. Dunno. I only eat at them places when forced with no other choice.
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Lawsuits for the most stupid of things
OH MY GOD. YOU SAY MEAN THINGS. I SUE YOU. Honestly. You speak of a very SMALL number of cases by stupid people that have been blown way out of proportion.
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A decresing number of graduates
Graduates from what? College? High school? This comment seethes of secondhand ignorant "fact." Don't parrot bullshit, m'dear, unless you at least know the entirety of the fact.
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A poor schooling system
Blame our shit-ass government. Not us. YES. I WANT ALL MY EDUCATION FUNDING PULLED IN FAVOR OF WAR EFFORTS. WE ARE SO KEWL. (though, with your spelling, I must wonder about YOUR education.)
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"american pride"
It's called Nationalism. Every goddamn country has it. Get over it.
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Power through fear
I'm sorry, I think you have us confused with Stalin-era Russia. Try again.
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The shady behind-the-scenes of the government system
... What? You mean corruption? Corruption is everywhere. Get over it. Your nation is not exempt.
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Huge racisim issues
Pfft. Bullshit. Racism is everywhere. Again, get over it.
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Murder
Yes. Yes. We are the only country where murder happens. Ever. [/sarcasm]
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Belief in a system that has only ever cheated it's people
Explain how the system has cheated me. In what ways? Sounds like you're pulling false accusations from your ass. Yeah, most of the current people in power are little shits, but hey. They'll be gone soon enough.
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Coruption to the max
Ha Ha. You obviously don't know how some nations in Africa and elsewhere work, do you? Our corruption isn't much worse than elsewhere. And it is far, FAR worse in other countries.
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The top 3% of America's most wealthy have almost all of the country in their back pockets
...yeah. BACK IN 1902. WELCOME TO THE FUTURE.
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The avaliblity of firearms
So? You have to have a license to get one. Doesn't mean we all have one.
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The media
Media is a big pile of rotting piss-infested bullshit everywhere. Personally, I find Britain's media to be worse than over here, but that was from a 2-week stay. I don't have a terribly solid opinion on that.
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The EVERYWHERE-EVERYTHING advertising
EVERYWHERE-EVERYTHING advertisements are a plague in ANY urban area I've visited so far. And yes, that includes several European nations.
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And many many MANY more.
MANY MANY MORE SECOND-HAND WARPED HALF-TRUTHS? Do tell. I'd love to see more silly ignorant bullshit.

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One of the biggest symbols in America is Lady Liberty. But did you know she was a gift from the French?
O RLY? I do believe a good number of people are aware. I DISTINCTLY remember learning this when I was like... three.
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Did you know that only 57% of Americans can recite the national anthem while 97% can sing you the "Big Mac" song?
A big mac song? What? I know of no such song, in all honesty. I would like to see where in the shit you got this retarded-ass LIE-INFESTED statistic.

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I know this is a very broad statement to make, but from what the world sees, this IS America.
Yes. the ignorant part.

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As for how America sees the world:
It is a great idea to take over another country when, if GW Bush was in Hussain's place with the death threats from rebel millitia, I'm sure...no, POSITIVE he would have had them killed too.
Ah, I love nonsensical ramblings that don't even make sense. Not even gonna touch this one. I'm just going to laugh at it.


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I mean, honestly, I can understand if you were an American who hated these FACTS about America, and then being offened by the comments bad against themselves instead of their country. But think about it. Seriously think about it for a minute. Would you rather whip up a healthy salad than gobble down a Big Mac? Would you opt for having a dog as hone secruity, or a gun?
Ha ha. More nonsensical ignorant shit. I totally didn't get the first half of what you were saying due to piss-poor grammar and word choice.

BUUUUUT. Hell YES I'd rather have a salad. (OH NOES. AN AMERICAN WHO LIKES SALAD. WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE?!) And while I can see the use of having firearms in some situations, I'd much rather have a home security system. Only time I'll get a gun is if I become a masked vigilante, or if zombies/hostile aliens come.

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My post speaks for itself of my opinions.
AND THAT'S TERRIBLE. Your opinions are the sort of ignorant crap we're against in this thread. Go learn some real facts, m'dear.

Kris 08-13-2007 02:35 AM

I have to agree with you, Alegretto.

^^;

Enniel 08-13-2007 02:44 AM

unfortuatly, 90% of my experience with americans has been negative...and for the most part, the ones that i have met/talked to dont know where saskatchewan is. its a province. in central canada..and i get: i dont know where that is. i can understand someone from a separate continant not knowing where that is, but we are right ABOVE the states (or next to them, however you want to think about it :) ) for the most part, i dont hate americans, but most of my experience have been negative. i have met quite a few that were nice, knowledgable and friendly. so no, i dont hate americans, think they are all stupid. i KNOW there are good people there, i just havnt had the pleasure of meeting them yet XD

Kris 08-13-2007 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Enniel
unfortuatly, 90% of my experience with americans has been negative...and for the most part, the ones that i have met/talked to dont know where saskatchewan is. its a province. in central canada..and i get: i dont know where that is. i can understand someone from a separate continant not knowing where that is, but we are right ABOVE the states (or next to them, however you want to think about it :) ) for the most part, i dont hate americans, but most of my experience have been negative. i have met quite a few that were nice, knowledgable and friendly. so no, i dont hate americans, think they are all stupid. i KNOW there are good people there, i just havnt had the pleasure of meeting them yet XD

Well, do you know where every state is?

life in red and black 08-13-2007 11:43 PM

lol, I'm American. I'm Chinese American though.

I'm going to visit China in December. I speak, and look like I'm chinese (that's because I am, lol). I wonder if I'm going to hear any remarks about america while I'm there?

My lil sister on the other hand has an accent... so they will be able to tell she's from abroad. ^ ^;

Kris 08-14-2007 02:06 AM

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lol, I'm American. I'm Chinese American though.

I'm going to visit China in December. I speak, and look like I'm chinese (that's because I am, lol). I wonder if I'm going to hear any remarks about america while I'm there?

My lil sister on the other hand has an accent... so they will be able to tell she's from abroad. ^ ^;

Have fun. (:

Kris 08-14-2007 09:55 PM

Any other opinions?

I have yet to hear from the ones that agreed with the other topic.

spriteaddict 08-17-2007 02:02 AM

Alot of it can be jealousy. United States is a country with alot of stuff. True that there are countries with more than us and we have downfalls, but alot countries hate us for stuff. The government right now isn't really helping the situation either. I am proud to be an American. Sometimes I am tired of the politicians but I truly am glad to be in this country.

minty 08-17-2007 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by H_e_a_r_t
Why would anyone hate America? It's such a great country, i think the best country in the world in fact. No one anywhere enjoy the freedom offered in America. America is the land of opportunity! Anyone can become rich and reach their dreams. This is the blessed land right here, America is wonderful! People just look at the negative side, what about the good side of America? I love this country, i really do. God bless the USA!


I'm always a little bothered by the whole idea of the "American Dream". Basically, everyone here holding on to the saying ""ANYONE in American can become rich! Reach for the stars!"

That's a great message and all but most people never become rich. If you have money, then you can make money.

But a poor person working hard and making it big is rare.

purplejesseh 08-17-2007 02:52 AM

  • I live in Canada, and I've gone to trips in America. It's awesome! Although, where I live is very close to the American border. I have met nice people there, but I've gone on bus tours with other Canadians so we don't socialize much and mostly go sightseeing. I had history last year... so we discussed a lot of stereotypes and such. And when people think of Canada, they think of coldness and ice?

neur0mancer 08-17-2007 07:17 AM

In all honesty, it kind of ticked me off when they made a big deal about us not having passports. x_x
I know our country is seen as rich, but only a few handful of people hold a vast amount of that wealth (not as bad as it was in the early 1900s, but its still like that), and theres nothing left for the rest of us.
Since when is not having a passport a bad thing? o_o;
As much as I'd love to travel to other continents, I love learning about new customs and countries and all that, we dont have the money to.
Sure, I live in a somewhat upper-middle class house, but there are 5 people in the family, as well as several animals. The cost of living is constantly rising. Our AC was missing a part that caused us to have a 700+ dollar electric bill.
Sure, we may LOOK like we're used to luxury, but we're not. We make enough to get by with paying for the house and the 5 people that live here.
Thats how it is with most families, rich or poor.
Not having a passport may or may not mean that theyre closed to other countries. It may mean that they just dont want to spend money on something that isnt a necessity.

And about the stupid lawsuits? Those are only a SMALL number of lawsuits that have been given a vast amount of attention because of how.. stupid they are. Its not like everyone does things like that. In all honesty, I think the rest of the country laughs at them as much as people from other countries do.

As for other claims, corruption is everywhere. Where there is government, there is corruption, no matter what country. It may not be as obvious or on as such a large scale as it is here, but its there.

I do have to say, though, our news crews arent all honest and unbiased. There have been several cases in which minorities, mainly black people, were brutally murdered or raped and it got no media attention because the child involved wasnt blonde and blue-eyed. That tends to piss me off. I think this is filed under "corruption", though.

Kris 08-17-2007 08:33 PM

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  • I live in Canada, and I've gone to trips in America. It's awesome! Although, where I live is very close to the American border. I have met nice people there, but I've gone on bus tours with other Canadians so we don't socialize much and mostly go sightseeing. I had history last year... so we discussed a lot of stereotypes and such. And when people think of Canada, they think of coldness and ice?

Generally very nice people and maple syrup come to mind when people think of Canadian stereotypes. xD;;

Cinnamonmiko 08-17-2007 09:32 PM

I wonder less about the validity of the stereotypes (I know they aren't all too terribly true and wonder more about the influence of the stereotypes.

Why is it that these misconceptions influence people so much? In some countries, people go out of their way to act upon the stereotype that all Americans are fat, lazy, and rude.
...But why America?

Wouldn't it be funny if people went out of their way to act upon the 'sissy, whiney' French stereotype? I think it'd be a case of bitter just-desserts...but it is unlikely to happen.

Why?
Because the French aren't in the limelight, per se. xP
Not to be rude, and not to say that the French aren't important...
But really, in an educated country there isn't a person who doesn't
'know' what or who the United States is in one way or another. We're famous for ruthlessly employing nuclear weaponry, for interloping upon foreign affairs to end conflict, et cetera.

Do you think that if America was a quiet little country that sat off to one side and watched dispassionately it would be treated with the disdain that it is now?

...I don't think so.

Quaint Sheep 08-17-2007 11:55 PM

xD George Bush accidentally said the Queen was 200 years old.
He's a tard.
But hey, this is America.


Redneck
White Trash
Blue collar

I do realize how lucky I am to live here, it's just sometimes, we run into stuff that we don't know or have a plan for getting out of. But doesn't everyone do that?

Pink 08-18-2007 12:07 AM

I'm sorry, I don't get the passport thing. Why should I have a passport? I'm not leaving the country anytime soon. I'm a working college student when do I have the time to go out of the country? I can't make short trips to Canada or Mexico. I live in Kansas. Right in the middle of the States. It's a trip either way.

So why on Earth is that a big deal? Why is that something to use agaisnt me?


On a side note, wtf is the big mac song?

Kris 08-18-2007 03:16 PM

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I'm sorry, I don't get the passport thing. Why should I have a passport? I'm not leaving the country anytime soon. I'm a working college student when do I have the time to go out of the country? I can't make short trips to Canada or Mexico. I live in Kansas. Right in the middle of the States. It's a trip either way.

So why on Earth is that a big deal? Why is that something to use agaisnt me?


On a side note, wtf is the big mac song?

I agree with the passport thing, and I didn't know that there was a Big mac song, either. x.x

neur0mancer 08-18-2007 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pink
I'm sorry, I don't get the passport thing. Why should I have a passport? I'm not leaving the country anytime soon. I'm a working college student when do I have the time to go out of the country? I can't make short trips to Canada or Mexico. I live in Kansas. Right in the middle of the States. It's a trip either way.

So why on Earth is that a big deal? Why is that something to use agaisnt me?


On a side note, wtf is the big mac song?

Im not sure, but they sure made a deal out of it in that thread. o_o;

... Theres a big mac song? D:

Kris 08-18-2007 05:07 PM

Haha, so much for EVERY American knowing this song, right? xD


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