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Kadrias 09-07-2007 01:42 AM

What, now we're going to have a nation/state dress code?! XD That is just ridiculous. And as it's already been pointed out, if they wanna outlaw something, they're kind of going the wrong direction.

And yeah, where would the limit be to the pants? I personally find those overly baggy pants so many guys like to wear amusing! There was this one kid at my old school who would hold his up by grabbing the insides of his pockets, it was funny to see. And once at the mall there were 3 or so guys in a line and they just all kinda fixed their pants simultaneously (much to our amusement). They wear belts, but loosely and often big buckles; just more decoration, really. XD

I don't see much room there for hiding weapons, let alone taking them out and getting away with it. Unless they have some go-go-gadget-lift-up-pants thing. I've actually never heard of anything being hidden in baggy pants. xD;

On a somewhat similar note, people tend to have a generalized idea of how you are depending on how you look/dress. Again, at my old school, there had been a gun scare or something and in the morning everyone had to walk through one of those metal detector things. Unfortunately for me, I was wearing a surplus of black that day. So, yeah, at first they made everyone go, then as time went on, they only made certain people go through. I.e. people who would stereotypically be involved with these habits. That just pissed me off. : /

Also my brother often gets checked in stores, airports and such because of his appearance! He's actually a reaaaally good kid, never gotten in trouble. But he has long curly hair that kinda covers his face and apparently has a serial killer lookin' face. It's kind of funny sometimes, since he tends to wear his college jacket (Pomona, pretty nice place) and he still gets it. At the airport last week he had to wait 10 or 15 minutes for them to thoroughly check his backpack, computer, and laptop bag. Just ridiculous. ._.

Icebreaker 09-07-2007 01:55 AM

what do you mean, that they 've run out of criminals to arrest and that they got so bored of no crime...this is atlanta we are talking about
the numebr of drug dealers and crackheads there is almost infiinite...there is no "bored of crime" there
along with many others that break many laws

but the whole no baggy pants deal is just dumb and retarded
i really dont even think that it can be made into a law,
like it would seriously demoralize the ammendments to see a "no baggy pants can be worn" in there
just pathetic..
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Dust 09-07-2007 02:32 AM

I think this might be because of all the idiots in the world sagging.
But it's ridiculous to outlaw baggy pants in general! I love baggy pants!
Mine completely cover my underwear.. I do not wear them at the knees.
I wouldn't be horribly offended if they outlawed guys with their boxers showing completely since they wear their pants at their knees though. >_<

Nevertheless... come on. We already suffer from dress codes at work/school. When we're out on the streets, it's our time to dress how we want, and if we want to wear baggy pants, then let us wear baggy pants!!

As for the whole weapons thing... I honestly can't see that happening. Unless you, like, strap them to your leg or something..
It'd be easier to hide a knife in the pocket of a hoodie or a gun under your shirt. They're just being ridiculous.

Winterwolfgoddess 09-07-2007 09:14 PM

  • This started happening a week or two ago in Atlanta I believe.
    I think they are trying to enforce the baggy as in the kind that some individuals wear today wear the pants are halfway down your butt or lower and your hanging out and all. Not baggy as in loose fitting due to things such as weight loss. Now, if you blame your loss of weight the cause why your pants are half way or more down your butt, yeah I would question it because you should of atleast had some time and money to buy new pants by the time it gets to that point where you can't walk like, 10 steps before you have to pull them up again. You should of atleast bought a belt.

    But that law I do find understandable, if it is not taken out of context. Some people really are to radical about some things. I wouldn't mind it spreading all throughout Georiga since I myself hate seeing guys boxers, girls undergarments, and such. It is disgusting.

mangacatgirl 09-07-2007 09:41 PM

Even if their boxers are sticking out, I have no problem with it... It's not showing anything and boxers are loose anyway so unless the boxers were also half way down their bum I wouldn't really care. Plus don't they usually wear big shirts over it anyway?

Vickicat 09-07-2007 09:50 PM

Pants.
 
That's ridiculous. I think I would try to move if that happened in my city. No one is going to tell me what to wear... Even when I went to private school for a few years and we were supposed to wear uniforms I wore other things. XD Main reason I went back to public school. Honestly though there are so many laws that you probably break at least one law everyday and do not even realize it. It's stupid. I bet I know why they want to make that a law though. Some people really do go over the top with the whole baggy pants thing, and it can be kinda gross. x_x I was walking down the hall at my college yesterday and I saw this guy bend over, and practically his whole butt was hanging out of his pants. He then had to stop and pull his pants back up. I really don't want to see all these guys' boxers. I have no interest in seeing people's underwear out in public like that. But I still don't think it should be a law. I just kind of see where they are coming from and why people don't like baggy pants. If they make any law, it should be that underwear shouldn't be visible. If you wear baggy pants but they fit well enough that your entire butt doesn't hang out, it shouldn't matter.

Shishunki 09-07-2007 09:53 PM

It's fairly idoitic. And most of the big news people agree that it won't pass. The law also is banning other exposers. Like if you wore a sports bra with spagetti straps. The bra strap is bigger then the shirt strapped and can be seen as breaking the new law. -.- Yeah... That's gonna last long...

I myself don't care for the baggy pants fashion. But that's mostly because I know where it originated. It started in jails because they take belts. (Of course the next part of this information is amusing.) When you have your pants so low it means that you are "taken" or "looking". Mind you this is in all male prisons...
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:lol: I bet if this got out more, there would be less people wearing baggy pants.
Even if I don't care for this trend, I don't support that law and it won't work.

Silhouette 09-07-2007 10:47 PM


From the original post it seems that we're only getting one side of it. I never saw a reason as to why they decided to outlaw baggy pants. They said nothing of sagging yet others have mentioned that prior.
So far as I can conclude I'd say it'd be most likely due to weapon concealment because in some states, and mine included, guns are allowed to be carried on your person if you want to do so.
That's the only thing that can make sense to me.
If it's just the fashionable aspect and has nothing to do with weapons I'd be skeptical to believe that's their intention. However if it's true I find it rather amusing.

Ishilied 09-07-2007 11:09 PM

I heard about that a while ago, although I don't know that it was in Atlanta.

I got the impression that the problem wasn't people wearing pants 'not in their own size', but those who had to hold their pants up in the front because they'd drop down to their knees else.

And those whose pants just barely clung to their asses to stay up, which meant that half of their underpants were exposed.

To be honest, outlawing those two is something I agree with. I'm not precisely what one would call conservative, but there is a level of obscenity that makes me want to enact violence upon people, and pants exposing over half of their underwear is one of those things.

If you wanted to do that, keep off the pants and just walk around in the panties. :?

Sadistix_Love 09-08-2007 12:15 AM

That's stupidity! Why the heck ban a type of clothing??! The big fashion companies are so going against this. And I'm with them. :< This is a free country. Sure, no killing and etc, but not to wear baggy pants?? D< WTF!

life in red and black 09-08-2007 12:49 AM

I live in Florida and I saw with my own eyes, a security guy asking a group of guys to pull up their pants or risk being kicked out of the mall.

Teens under 16 (I think) aren't allowed to be assembled in a group of more than 3 without an adult. O.o

But seriously, I HATE looking at guys with their pants so low. It's disgusting.

@Shishunki - rofl That's what my teacher told the guys in my class. now that's a funny situation.

Melody 09-08-2007 12:55 AM

atlanta georgia has a lot of crime though. perhaps perpetrators conceal weapons in their pants often? I dont know if they would be actually ticketing them every time its probably just checking them. i could be wrong though. but i know in southern california where i grew up alot of people would wear baggy pants and have concealed weapons. so it IS a danger to society.

but at the same time i would like to point out that virginia beach virginia has a lot of crime and the police are arresting people who are wearing thongs (not like thongs under your pants but as a swimsuit where its showing) some people just consider weird things indecent.

mangacatgirl 09-08-2007 03:35 AM

If they outlaw the baggy pants that show some boxer I say they have to outlaw the other extreme as well... The tight pants that show panty lines... Where when you bend over, your butt crack actually sticks out... I can't believe that's legal but over-sized pants are being questioned x.x;

Winterwolfgoddess 09-08-2007 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mangacatgirl
Even if their boxers are sticking out, I have no problem with it... It's not showing anything and boxers are loose anyway so unless the boxers were also half way down their bum I wouldn't really care. Plus don't they usually wear big shirts over it anyway?

Though it does not bother you, it does bother other individuals. If you are going to just show your undergarments, which is referred to as that for a reason, why wear pants at all?
As for the "big shirts", that is not always the case. Plus, where I live in GA, I am starting to see the trend of the males not wearing shirts with this so called style that originated from a prison.

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If they outlaw the baggy pants that show some boxer I say they have to outlaw the other extreme as well... The tight pants that show panty lines... Where when you bend over, your butt crack actually sticks out... I can't believe that's legal but over-sized pants are being questioned x.x;
That would be the next step I am sure. And a step I defiantely would not mind. Probably wouldn't do any harm suggesting that to my governor either--except to those who find looking trashy attractive.

Winterwolfgoddess 09-08-2007 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Silhouette

From the original post it seems that we're only getting one side of it. I never saw a reason as to why they decided to outlaw baggy pants. They said nothing of sagging yet others have mentioned that prior.
So far as I can conclude I'd say it'd be most likely due to weapon concealment because in some states, and mine included, guns are allowed to be carried on your person if you want to do so.
That's the only thing that can make sense to me.
If it's just the fashionable aspect and has nothing to do with weapons I'd be skeptical to believe that's their intention. However if it's true I find it rather amusing.

However, it is still fairly easy to conceal weapons in clothes that are not baggy, so I do not think that is the case.
Taking things out of context does not help to situation.

Winterwolfgoddess 09-08-2007 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sadistix_Love
That's stupidity! Why the heck ban a type of clothing??! The big fashion companies are so going against this. And I'm with them. :< This is a free country. Sure, no killing and etc, but not to wear baggy pants?? D< WTF!

  • I would just like to point out that the "big fashion companies" would probably be pleased. How many models for these "big fashion companies" do you see wearing clothing that is showing undergarments, unless, of course, you are an undergarment company, such as Victoria Secret.
    And what exactly do you define as a free country?

mangacatgirl 09-08-2007 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Winterwolfgoddess
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Originally Posted by mangacatgirl
Even if their boxers are sticking out, I have no problem with it... It's not showing anything and boxers are loose anyway so unless the boxers were also half way down their bum I wouldn't really care. Plus don't they usually wear big shirts over it anyway?

Though it does not bother you, it does bother other individuals. If you are going to just show your undergarments, which is referred to as that for a reason, why wear pants at all?
As for the "big shirts", that is not always the case. Plus, where I live in GA, I am starting to see the trend of the males not wearing shirts with this so called style that originated from a prison.

I see girl's with their bra straps hanging out every day... And what about wearing skirts? A heavy wind comes by and everyone knows your panties colour, style and size... So I guess we should ban skirts too... and shirts that expose any of your bra... like shirts with wide collars, or low backs, or even V neck shirts because that often exposes part of the bra too. I've seen girls (And a ton of celebrities) wear tight shirts and no bra at all... where you can actually see their nipples through the shirt... Not the shape... I mean you can actually see it. And that's offensive I would think, more so than some boxer bunch over a belt or pants line. Yet... not illegal...

Oh... minor note... I've seen people go crazy angry when people believe women shouldn't be able to breast feed in public... That exposes more than the top of an undergarment... (And I don't want to hear "Oh but the baby needs to eat" either, because yes you should feed it... just not right in front of everyone.)

Winterwolfgoddess - I know I wasn't asked this but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in the bucket. I would define a free country as a place where you can do as you please so long as you are not hurting, wronging or endangering anyone.

lonewolf 09-08-2007 04:51 PM

what if you are a tourist? :D imma visit and put on a reeally bad french accent muhahahah

mangacatgirl 09-08-2007 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by lonewolf
what if you are a tourist? :D imma visit and put on a reeally bad french accent muhahahah

Bring a video camera XD I'm probably not the only one who would love to see that ^.^;

Sanctuary 09-08-2007 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by `Aine Chievious
The reasoning here may be because people believe that you can hide weapons in there, like the whole thing with the trench coats. It's sad, because I'm fond of both trench coats and baggy pants, and they are now associated with violence. Also, it's kind of dumb, because people don't realize that there are blades that you could hide in your hat, the back pocket of your jeans, or your shoes (I know this from my brother, who's obsessed with weapons and martial arts).

That's still very stupid, though. I mean, wearing baggy pants don't cause people harm, and they usually don't reveal anything, so why ban them? XD

Hidden weapons in pants?! Dx

Ridiculous. I agree with you. People can hide weapons anywhere. One man stuck a gun up his arse to smggle it into jail. Why would baggy pants make a difference?

Winterwolfgoddess 09-08-2007 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mangacatgirl
I see girl's with their bra straps hanging out every day... And what about wearing skirts? A heavy wind comes by and everyone knows your panties colour, style and size... So I guess we should ban skirts too... and shirts that expose any of your bra... like shirts with wide collars, or low backs, or even V neck shirts because that often exposes part of the bra too. I've seen girls (And a ton of celebrities) wear tight shirts and no bra at all... where you can actually see their nipples through the shirt... Not the shape... I mean you can actually see it. And that's offensive I would think, more so than some boxer bunch over a belt or pants line. Yet... not illegal...

Oh... minor note... I've seen people go crazy angry when people believe women shouldn't be able to breast feed in public... That exposes more than the top of an undergarment... (And I don't want to hear "Oh but the baby needs to eat" either, because yes you should feed it... just not right in front of everyone.)

Winterwolfgoddess - I know I wasn't asked this but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in the bucket. I would define a free country as a place where you can do as you please so long as you are not hurting, wronging or endangering anyone.

They make bras specifically for those kinds of shirts as well, so why ban the shirt if you can can hide the evidence. They also make clear straps for these purposes. I have never had a problem with shirts for these reasons.
As for celebrities, whoever said anything about them? A lot of celebrities are not exactly respectable and show be controlled better. Instead everyone focuses all their attention on them and their little "situations" and just make it worse.

As for women breast feeding in public, anytime I have seen it done it is covered with a blanket or another means, as not to expose anything. As long as nothing is exposed, I do not care.


Nice definition, but not exactly defined as it should be. I think indecent exposure is appalling, so in essecence, that is wronging me since I do not want to see it. It is an eye sore, whether it is skin tight or fall off the body loose. When people complaining of houses being an eye sore and dangerous, the government usually demolishes it, so why not regulate those two?

However, here is one thing I can say on the side you take: Even if the law does pass, How long will it stay effective? Will it even be listened to? Guns are banned in some states, but the only ones who follow it is law abiding citizens. Dog fights are illegal, but you still hear about them. Littering is a crime, but people still do it. Just because you have a law does not mean people are going to follow it. If you just keep banning things, how far is it going to go?

Don't mistake me for being for this pending law, since I am against it. However, I do think how people wear their clothes should be regulated to an extent. Wear baggy clothes if it pleases you, just don't have it falling down. Wear tight clothes if you want to, just don't make it to where it looks like you are about to bust out.

Naeru 09-08-2007 06:49 PM

Wow, that sounds ridiculous o.O

If it's not offending people why are they fining people? It makes no sense.

I understand if people are over exposing themselves or something, but this is just crazy @@;

vadeil 09-08-2007 07:03 PM

What is this world comeing to >.< i don't think they have a right to do that if that passes it would be ridiculous.

Yeah 09-08-2007 08:53 PM

It's a completely ridiculous law, and I hope it doesn't pass because it would just open the door for other states to do the same stupid thing. If it did pass, it would probably become like the dumb bicycle helmet ordinance here, the police are too busy to care and don't bother enforcing it. There are plenty of laws that I find to be completely ridiculous and that I feel take away some of our freedom, but apparently there isn't a whole lot we can do about it.

AkashaHeartilly 09-08-2007 09:45 PM

Silly, very silly I think.
Hey can you give me a link to this I want to post it on another community.
But there taking away the way to make it easier to catch these dumbasses!
Baggy pants are hard to run in, yo!


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