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Elwing 09-12-2007 12:38 AM

Well, no offence, but I don't realy know if I realy care.
It has been a while ago now, and no offense, but I am from Holland, not
from America, so it did not realy happend very close to me that it changed me.
Yes, ofcourse I think it's horrable what happend, no matter who was behind this all.
But people die every day, like my mom did 2 years ago, that affects me much
more.
I hope I don't offend people with my message, I have all the respect that
people still think of it every year, and it's okay.
But that some people don't, like the people in your school, I don't know...
it is your opinion that you disliked it that they did not mentioned it,
but it is also their opinion not to memorize it <- or how do you say that.
Sorry if I offended you, it was not ment do offend you or anyone else. ^^

siaasgn 09-12-2007 01:30 AM

Sept 11 is one of those days that as time passes and you ask someone what they were doing when it ahppened they can probably tell you (kind of like when you ask oler generations what were they doing when JFK was shot) -I know I was going to class - I stopped int he bathroom and there were people crying in the hallway - I was confused and went to class. We talked about how it was a 'teaching moment' because it was an education course - and then we all went back to our dorms. I sat in my suite mate's room and watched the news and called my mom to find out if my brother was OK (he had just finished boot camp w/ the air force and no one knew what was going on).


I remember what happened, and I remember the snowball of events that it helped push - but I do not need bazillions of news agencies, tv programs, or other for profit bullshit telling me how much I should (or should not) care and turning a lesson into a pity party.

I actually had to change th radio on my way into work because I was sick of hearing about memorial services - it's been 6 years and we need to move on. It is possible to move on without forgetting what happened or the lesson that we each took from it.

Alice Sinister 09-12-2007 01:35 AM

well, not be selfish or anything, but i care because it's a lot of people's birthdays, including mine. so i would never forget, because, every year, someone tells me they wouldn't forget my birthday because of the crash.

Icebreaker 09-12-2007 01:40 AM

yeah, people are self fish
but you cant judge everyone by just the people at your school
theres more to the world than our own little worlds(not the e-world, im talking about the city we live in the places we go are our own little "world")
If you would have seen the new about the people in new york
you would have seen that people do still care, me included
Most people out of the newyork transtate area dont care as much as those in the area. Mainly because , obviously, most of the victims were newyorkers who lived in new york or had alot of buisness affairs in newyork in the midst of the towers

but its true, the over-all care for it has decreased immensely in the past six years
me...i will never forgive...i will never forget
its too big a part of my life
a memory that can not not fade...
i wish the american people realized how big, 9/11 really was...

Aliena 09-12-2007 01:45 AM

Honestly, I care. I remember vividly that day (I can even remember exactly what I was wearing and pretty much everything I did that day, people I talked to, the things I expressed, etc.), even if I do live miles and miles away from where it actually happened. I didn't spend today dwelling or glued to the news stations or anything like that. I just went on with the day as if it were like everything else. But at the same time, I did stop and reflect on it all. I didn't lose anyone that day, but I do feel that I lost quite a bit of innocence. I was always one of those people who lived life without great tragedy and with thinking that bad stuff was always so far away and could never touch me. When 9-11 happened, it opened my eyes to the fact that that's not true. Indeed, any day could be my last, and that there are truly heartless people out there.

I've mourned for those people lost, for their families, and for my loss of innocence. I don't believe it should be commercialized or that it should be politicized as always seems to happen with things like this and I don't feel it should be an excuse for taking a day off. But I don't believe it should be completely ignored either. Then again, I'm one of those people with a pretty good sense of pride in my state and my country. It's got it's crappy bits, but I still love it.

Ithir 09-12-2007 01:49 AM

Well, I'm not sure where your school is, but if your distanced from New York, it just doesn't seem as impacting. I mean, it's still terribly tragic, and led to this horrendous war we're in with Iraq. >< God forbid should we have another 9-11, we might decide to invade Iran.

It's not much different from anything else in the world. Take, for example the starving children in Africa (Cliche, I know. xP ) Hell, take a majority of Africa. Horrid things are happening there (Far more unimaginable than a few crashed planes) and bugger if most people anywhere even care, let alone know about it.

Honestly, yes it was tragic, yes, we should have a moment of reflection, but we really have to move on. Hey, I have a brilliant idea! New Oreleans.
The death toll may be lower, but it's sad as hell. We can't even fix our own country. I didn't hear anyone talking about that when the anniversary rolled around. : /

`Nitemare~ ilu. xD The world is too populated. : /

siaasgn 09-12-2007 01:51 AM

This all kind of makes me think of a Mark Twain quote -

“Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.”


This sums up my feelings - I generally love my country - but that does not mean I love the government or their actions.

Yoshaki 09-12-2007 01:55 AM

Mmm I remember. But when it comes around to my ending regrets. I can't do much. I have no color clothes combos. I have no remember shirts. I got no buttons no fliers no quotes. I am pulling a blank...and really it isn't me to force it on others. And when I think of it a day off wouldn't hurt those who were hurt by it in any way. Just so they can live a day of regret and sadness with no worries. And wake up tomorrow...and have to keep living. And we all keep living. Cause stop living, and death means absolutely nothing.

Aliena 09-12-2007 01:58 AM

Sia, that is a really great quote! And I think that kind of sums up my feelings too. I really love my country, but don't always agree with the government, either party.

Ithir - I actually heard a lot about Katrina/New Orleans when that anniversary rolled around. That was closer to home for me, as we had a lot of refugees come to my city and I ended up even working with some of them in my job.

Just tragedy in general, whether it's here or over in Spain or the UK or an earthquake down in South America. I just...I don't know. I really feel for the people affected.

Zweres 09-12-2007 02:00 AM

  • We had a moment of silence today before the pledge, so our whole school talked about it and we discussed the horrific event for those affected by the tragic event. Its truly sad that no one actually remembered it. And I did dress in red, white, and blue today to school as well as a majority of others who did.

    >_> And off topic, I really don't think that a IQ test is accurate, I believe in Howard Gardner's Multiple Intelligence Theory

Ithir 09-12-2007 02:02 AM

>.> Okay, it's not like no one remembered it. Most people probably did.
Ish.

Aliena~ See, I'm so far north that I think we only got like, a family or two if I remember right.

And I rarely ever hear about these world events. D: Instead I see a dozen headlines about Britney Spears.

Aliena 09-12-2007 02:04 AM

Yeah, and I used to live on the gulf coast (in Texas), so we got many.

Sanctuary 09-12-2007 02:07 AM

I understand what is being said about life going on.

I'm sorry. It's just so hard to let go when more than anything you want to stop it all and bring your loved ones back.

It probably is best to move on.

Siaasgn- That quote is amazing O.O
That's how I feel too 100%


Secret 09-12-2007 02:10 AM

  • To be honest, I get really sick of people exploiting the death of everyone on 9/11. I think it's really disgraceful, and disgusting the way our country and it's people remember and act about the event.

` Nitemare 09-12-2007 02:24 AM

Abis
Exactly.
Kids should only go to people who Want them.
And who are smart enough to take care of them. >.O
If there was a law that you must take a IQ test and other tests to see if you capable for caring for a child then I'll vote for it. x3

Queen
Mhmm!
lol
A lot of awesome people wouldn't be around, but you'd have to blame their parents for being drop-outs or something. xD

Ithir
<3333
I feel loved. :o

`F o a m 09-12-2007 02:52 AM

  • I know this seems a little harsh.
    But I don't care.
    We're doing this to the same people that supposably bombed us.
    But you don't see them bitching about it.
    People need to get over it.
    Shit happens.
    Sorry, but this just really makes me mad how desnse people are to places outside of America.
    That is what's selfish.
    The whole 'Remember 9/11' thing is just a way for us to get into a blinding rage about killing people in other countries.
    All I see is my mind is some drunk redneck waving a flag and drinking beer as he watches tv in his recliner, agreeing with everything that the 'smart people' on tv think.
    -insert eye roll here-

linkfreak131 09-12-2007 03:13 AM

My school made a simi-big deal out of it. =o

Of course, I go to a Catholic high school, so we always make sure to have some sort of prayer service for any tradegy that hit the world, like 9/11. Any tradegy that happened should be remember by the people, whether it effected them or not, becuase these are people's lives we're talking about here.

Anyway, we didn't go fullblown or anything on it, we were just allowed to ware red white and blue add-ons to our uniform, we had a moment of silence in the morning assembly, and durring Religion class, the Sister held a prayer service in the chaple in our high school. That's pretty much it, which is pretty much what we do every year, except we sometimes hold a Mass.

Chexala 09-12-2007 04:22 AM

I haven't encountered anything formal about 9/11 today. Then again, I don't have TV, don't listen to the radio and don't read the paper.

Even though it's been six years, 9/11 is something I remember, because it's a subject that infuriates me. I think the Commission Report was a load of crap, and the government is lying to us and withholding information about the events of that day. It doesn't even really matter who did it, just that we don't have hardly any true information about it. When I think about how many people died, and how their deaths were used to start wars, well, it just pisses me off.

That said, I don't make much of a remembrance of it. Every day, something tragic has happened and is happening, and every day is someone's birthday. Given the extent of human history, I find publicized remembrance days (of events) to be almost pointless. Every day is a remembrance for something, it's just a matter of how recent it was, and how much it effects you. Also, I think remembrance is a private thing. For example, every year, I quietly observe my dad's birthday and deathday. That's just something I do, but I do it by myself.

life in red and black 09-12-2007 04:41 AM

I wore red white and blue
But I can't believe
How many people has no clue
What today means...

Really. My parents, classmates, etc. This should be an incident that none of us will ever forget.

I was watching some kind of I think it's called TMZ show which was interviewing people and questioning them about celebrities and the year of September 11th attack. They got all the ones about celebrities correct. Yea, they got the year wrong.

BTW, it's 9 - 11 - 01.

A moment of silence please.

For the dumb and ignorant people. We shouldn't forget this date as everyone says. We Should remember for all those who lost their lives and more. I only heard it mentioned four times today. 1. Annoncements in my AP Calc class with intelligent people, 2. Newspaper, with intelligent people 3. Mom, who I can't blame for not really understanding english and remembering the date until I reminded her, but she understands the importance, 4. with my not so intelligent friends, sigh.

Oh, 5 and 6 would be online and the news. And yeah, lots of intellectuals on Menewsha!

ToriKat 09-12-2007 05:10 AM

  • That event sparked a huge change in my life. It sent my dad to Iraq to serve a country (the United States) that doesn't even appreciate the sacrifices the people who serve us make.

    Today in the main mall at my university, there was a huge rally saying that 9/11 was an inside job. That Bush had set it up and whatnot.
    I didn't pay much attention to it...it almost made me late to my class. D:

    But as I was going to my class, I saw on the main lawn by the tower something that gave me chills. There were small American flags all lined up in the center. I stopped to stare at the memorial and just got cold. I get really emotional with nationalistic stuff. If I sing the Star Spangled Banner, I will cry.

    And it's funny that I appreciate this country so much...considering how much everyone else thinks I'm some foreigner/outsider/immigrant just because I'm Asian.

neur0mancer 09-12-2007 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen Fool
I personally thing it was the past and people should be getting over it. It's been 6 years.

Don't get me wrong, it was tragic.

None of my classmates even remember it, so it's not a big deal here. No one wanted to dress up because it was picture day, and not everyone's favorite outfit is red white and blue.

And we SHOULD get the day off.

I agree with most of what you said, except the "should get a day off".
This is a phase, much like Pearl Harbor or V-J day.
Do we throw a bitchfit when people forget about Pearl Harbor?
Most of the students in my classes can't even tell me when it happened.
The same things going to happen to 9/11.

If we didn't get a day off for Pearl Harbor, why should we get a day off now?
I understand what happened was bad, but... why make it an excuse to slack off? Thats disrespectful.
We need to get on with our lives, not dwell. :3

Buckwheat Noodles 09-12-2007 04:30 PM

This is likely going to sound mean, cruel or generally uncaring. Maybe that's what it is. But yesterday I didn't realize it was 9-11 until about, oh, ten p.m. last night. Even though I'd been in school all day, scribbling the date everywhere.

Look, you want tragedy? Turn on the news. I guarantee that every day without fail you'll hear of at least one death; a car accident, a murder, a suicide, a fire, something. And yet no one remembers those separate "little" deaths except for those who are directly affected by it. My question is- what makes 9-11 so damned special compared to all the other tragedy that's going on in the world? People died. Unexpectedly. Well, uh, I hate to break it to you but that happens every single day, all over the world.

So I don't see why people should expect everyone else to mourn for that one specific date. They've all got their own little tragedies to worry about. I experienced my first big family death last January. Am I going to expect all my friends and their friends to come mourn with me the day I go visit my grandmother's grave? No. It's my death, it's my mourning.

Do whatever you want. Mourn who and whatever you want to mourn. But don't expect the world to do it with you. It's got it's own problems.

That came out a little harsher than I expected, but.. *Shrugs*

Vickicat 09-12-2007 08:24 PM

Blah.
 
No one pays attention to it anymore. It's been several years since the incident happened and it was a bad thing, so really why mention it every year? No one mentioned it this year or last year. But I really don't blame them.

AkashaHeartilly 09-12-2007 08:36 PM

Do you know what day Pearl Harbor happened on and do you still set aside a moment of silence for it? And what about the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Or the day of the Oaklahoma city bombings, or the first world trade center attack?

After awhile, people grow and move on from the past. Some people still mourn, others do not. Some grow and forget, others do not.

Since we get none of those days off as a holiday, I do not think 9/11 should be either.

To me the has mostly become progranda driven for both sides, and I care not to hear it. Respect the day in how you feel, I treat it now as another day.

` Nitemare 09-12-2007 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckwheat Noodles
This is likely going to sound mean, cruel or generally uncaring. Maybe that's what it is. But yesterday I didn't realize it was 9-11 until about, oh, ten p.m. last night. Even though I'd been in school all day, scribbling the date everywhere.

Look, you want tragedy? Turn on the news. I guarantee that every day without fail you'll hear of at least one death; a car accident, a murder, a suicide, a fire, something. And yet no one remembers those separate "little" deaths except for those who are directly affected by it. My question is- what makes 9-11 so damned special compared to all the other tragedy that's going on in the world? People died. Unexpectedly. Well, uh, I hate to break it to you but that happens every single day, all over the world.

So I don't see why people should expect everyone else to mourn for that one specific date. They've all got their own little tragedies to worry about. I experienced my first big family death last January. Am I going to expect all my friends and their friends to come mourn with me the day I go visit my grandmother's grave? No. It's my death, it's my mourning.

Do whatever you want. Mourn who and whatever you want to mourn. But don't expect the world to do it with you. It's got it's own problems.

That came out a little harsher than I expected, but.. *Shrugs*

::claps::
I completely agree with you.
:D
People just can't get over it because it was a huge tragedy that happened all at once in their precious United States.
::sigh::


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