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Unless I murder the father, there is no loss of human life here. O_o;;
Getting an abortion is more like gambling, losing and then taking out a loan afterwards to pay off the debt. Not paying the dealer would be like going back and time and not having the sex to begin with. |
It is entirely the mother's choice.
If someone can't support a child, why should we force them to have it? Yeah, we can give it up for adoption. But really... How many of you would be willing to go through hours of birth, and then seeing your child, and be able to give it up? |
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They got themselves pregnant. Whether they meant to or not, they did. It's still their fault. If abortion is an option for teens, teens will have more and more sex because who cares if you get pregnant? Just get an abortion. And have you ever read Brave New World? It's scary because it's happening. Abortion is a big step to a Brave New World which I for one do not want to see. |
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Not to mention abortion has been going on for hundreds of years. I remember watching a documentary talking about how African slave women would make up herbal concoctions to abort foetuses that would otherwise be born in to slavery. And it's probably cheaper to be on birth control and use condoms than it is to go through an abortion, not to mention the emotional upheaval that probably goes with it. I highly doubt many teenage girls make such a decision flippantly. |
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It starts with controlling pregnancies inside the women and will lead to controlling babies in test tubes. As I said, abortion is a step to Brave New World, not an element of Brave New World. And how do we know today's prices will be the same in ten or fifteen years? Abortion could be cheaper then. |
Funny, this topic was discussed by me and my husband the other night.
Being a mother of 3. I have been in this position. Do I keep the child or do I abort the pregnancy? I chose to keep all 3 of them. Simply because I felt that it was meant to be. But I also believe that there are times when it would be in the best interest for all involved (including the unborn child) to have an abortion. Rape, incest (and YES is still happens!), teen pregnancies, even extreme poverty situations (homeless). There are enough children floating around adoption agencies that can fill this world's loving homes of those wanting childern. We are a world over-populated, extremely violent and financially unstable to be continuing in the manor we are going. |
I have very strong feelings about abortion. Women should have the option to get a legal, safe abortion because if an uprepared mother gives birth to a child, guess who suffers? The child. However, I also maintain the belief that abortion is not a form of birth control, and if a woman has had more than two abortions, she needs to be sent for counceling because obviously something is going on that needs to be taken care of.
As for adoption...Jesus Christ, have you people -seen- some of these places for foster children? Many children are shuffled from home to home, they don't receive the attention they need, and they suffer for their mother's screw ups. Now, yes, there are a lot of children who go up for adoption and are placed in loving homes where they are raised properly and healthily. But I would not want to take the chance of my child living a messed up life because I screwed up. And of course, this isn't even touching on the fact that it's not your body, so you shouldn't even be trying to tell her what to do. Women have the right to choose, and no one else can decide for them, so they shouldn't even try. And I believe if everyone stopped trying to tell others how to live their lives, the world would be a lot better off. -.- |
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They made a mistake. They do NOT deserve to have their entire lives taken away from them because of one mistake. It's not fair to the mother, nor is it fair to the child. That's not true at all. First of all, teens can and do get abortions. It is a completely ignorant view to think that teens will start using abortion as birth control just because it's there. Abortions can and will be abused, but a lot of people actually do have brains and choose to use birth control instead. The vast majority of women certainly don't want to have multiple abortions unless absolutely necessary. It takes physical and emotional tolls, not to mention the fact that it's expensive, especially for a teenager who likely has no income. I have not read this, so I cannot comment. |
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And when I said option, I should have specified 'socially accepted' option. Abortion is, obviously, a controversial subject that teens may have qualms about. A lot of adults, yes, but teenagers? Please. If you went to my school and sat in the classes that I got stuck in this year, you wouldn't have said that. There are so many idiots out there who will abuse abortion and use it as a birth control substitute. In fact, I know a pair at my school who do just that. I'm sure if I were a little more social I'd know more. Teenagers shouldn't have sex, and all we're doing is giving them more reasons to. And teenagers who have never had an abortion won't know the physical or emotional consequences. |
Who but themselves is it hurting to have many abortions, as opposed to using contraception? The best thing isn't to make it illegal - there are high risk situations for women, such as any in which their job is to be sexually arousing, or where they are at a high risk of rape etc... some women have little choice. Should they be condemned (yes, condemned) to birth and motherhood when they are unable to provide for a pregnancy, let alone a child, because they have had multiple situations in which they have become pregnant despite contraception, or because they were not able to use contraception?
Should those who would really need the option be condemned (along with their child) for the sake of those who abuse it, as people abuse any other thing? |
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If she decides to keep the baby, then yes. Her entire future is pretty much decimated. There is no better way to ruin a teen's life than to get her pregnant. :\ O___o;; Just because it isn't socially acceptable doesn't mean teens can't do it. It is accepted by many people, in fact. For the love of god, stop underestimating us. NOT ALL TEENAGERS ARE IDIOTS. Just because some will abuse it doesn't mean everyone will. It's already legal, mind you, and there aren't a hell of a lot of people of any age that go out and have abortions whenever they feel like it. Just because I, personally, have never felt the consequences doesn't mean they don't exist. O_o; Okay, here's the thing. Teenagers who want to have sex will do so no matter what you tell them. Those who do not want to have sex will abstain even if you give them all the condoms and free abortions in the world. Having abortions is not going to influence anyone into having sex. And for the record, is there something wrong with monogamous, safe sex between sixteen year olds? I see no problem there. But that's another debate entirely... |
I like this issue. I love the way that people seem unwilling to admit that the other side of the argument might have merit. Of course, I'm one of those people who refuses to consider any other view but my own as well - mainly because I speak from experience.
I have had more than one abortion in the past. There. I said it. Not that I am ashamed - circumstances in my life at those times made it the best option to consider. Adoption was never an option - I could not afford the time off my work to give birth, and being adopted myself I know the emotional and mental pain it can cause a child to discover that they were adopted. And don't say 'well, just don't tell them' - I was only told because I had been snooping through my mother's things, and found documentation that I asked 'what's this?' - I was all of SEVEN years old. You can imagine the massive way that knowing my parent's weren't my biological ones shattered my word at such an age. However, I am a mother now. I'm older. I was 22 when my daughter was born, and I had lived out in the world enough to be able to feel confident that I could raise a child - I'm also a single parent, but even with a great familial support network it's NOT EASY BEING A PARENT. And it's forever. Your child will depend on you not just for the formative years, and will take a huge chunk of your life. Younger parents, who might feel like there is still things they want to do, might resent the child for this, and that's not going to be conducive to raising a happy child in the way that they deserve. You ask 'what about the child' when it comes to abortion - fine. But try thinking 'what about the child' in the long term before you condemn people for making a decision that might conflict with your own views. |
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If a teenager's parents feel strongly against an abortion, which I know lots of parents that would be, a teenager would feel pressured to not have an abortion. If their parents didn't mind, then why not. Not all teenagers are idiots, but a heck of a lot of them are. It's legal, but like I said, if parents agreed to it I bet you there would be more. I never said they didn't exist. If you've never felt the consequences, because you've never felt them you don't understand them like you would if you had. Monogamous safe sex between 16 year olds. Do you even know what kind of emotional bonds are created through sex? It's not right for people who aren't married or people who haven't reached their full level of maturity, and I don't care what you think, no 16 year old will have a full level of maturity, to have sex. Teens especially create drama and break up, move on have sex more drama more break ups. Sex between teenagers can cause a good deal of emotional strain. It ruins relationships and it causes diseases. Safe sex? If there was a true safe sex, people wouldn't get pregnant on accident. |
So Angle, what solution do you suggest that doesn't force anyone whose bodies, lives or emotions aren't ready to have children?
And... if teen sex causes problems emotionally, imagine the problems that teen parenthood can put on a kid? They grow up really fast - and where does their life go? Under that extreme emotional pressure, is it responsible or wise to risk a young person's well-being, and bring another person into the picture whose life could very likely be full of unnecessary challenges? |
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I know people are gonna keep doing it, but it's their problem. Don't have sex unless you're ready to assume responsibility. It's the only right thing. If you help out the people doing it it's just gonna get worse. But I guess there's nothing anyone can say to reverse this corrupt society. Sex is for married people, and I'm done with debating about what I know is right. |
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One case that turns out well does not discredit all of the high school dropouts that have a kid they don't take care of. Even if she got married, she's probably financially reliant on her husband. If they get divorced, then what's going to happen? She'll be screwed. If a teenager is not mature enough to make their own decision about their body without mindlessly following the word of their parents, they are not mature enough to have sex. :\ And that's before we count the ones who do it without ever telling their parents. Who says parents aren't agreeing? Were I to get pregnant, mine certainly would. They may act stupid. That doesn't mean that their every last decision is going to be immature and pathetic. Angsty and whiny, yes, but they still know what birth control is. I've also never been to the center of the earth, but I do know that it's hot. Not all of us find sex to be such an emotionally moving experience. >_> You're right, a 16 year old is not going to be as mature as an adult. But unfortunately, marriage =/= maturity. A married 18 year old couple will not be as mature as a single 30 year old, so by your logic, they shouldn't have sex either. What do drama and breakups have to do with anything? By the way, adults spread diseases faster than teenagers do. Nearly all unwanted pregnancies come from either botched protection or no protection at all, not from those who are practicing safe sex correctly. |
So, when people make decisions, it's better to damn their offspring to potential lives of hell for it as well? Should the decision to have sex reduce any girl or woman to the status of incubator?
People who are never ready to have children - should they never have sex (and let's assume that they don't want something as permanent as removing or tying anything up)? People who never get married? |
Actually, forget it. ~__~
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Like Bush and saying the morning-after pill makes women promiscuous. Yeah, um...what? And simply because we support a woman's right to chose what to do with her body, and because we don't wish to force parenthood or the pain of adoption on an unfit mother, does not mean we are "corrupt". It means we're open-minded and/or liberal ^^; Sex is for those who are ready, and following a natural instinct is not wrong. Also, may I point out...it's an opinion. It can neither be proven right or wrong. You're free to believe what you want, but don't assume just because I believe differently that I'm wrong. |
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Agreed. There are fifteen year olds in the world who are prepared to have sex, and there are married couples that got married directly out of highschool and should probably be neutered to prevent their genes from passing on. O____O;; |
me thinks it's time to take it in a different direction.
what's your opinion on medically necessary abortions? as in abortions performed because the fetus is fatally ill or one performed to save the mother's fertility? |
All I ever hear in life is abortion, abortion and abortion! Me, myself I' am anti-abortion because I can't stand the thought of killing a child before he or she gets a chance to live. People don't realize that something is wrong until it happens to them, but because your mother decided to not get an abortion you will never actually know how wrong it is. I had seriously had enough of people saying, "But what if the mother was raped?" So what about it? Why must that child be killed? If the mother don't want the child, why can't that child be put in a foster home or be given to a family member to care for, if it really wasn't the woman's fault. When I think about abortion, I think about killing millions of people because you never know what that child's future is. There is a chance that the child would be hero who'd save other people's lives, but by killing that child those people have no chance. Abortion is murder!
My exception...If the mother only chance of surviving is an abortion, then all I can say is a life equals a life, so which ever life you'd be please to keep, thats up to the mom. |
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