It all depends on what state you are in. I believe in california, you can do it if your a single parent.

And that means children who really need a home, really need love, really need someone get left in the dark, get left unwanted, and go through life feeling like unwanted trash.

To me those loving people who wanted to adopt aren't so loving if they can easily toss aside living children who need a family more than anything. If they were loving and so wanting of a family, then help make a true difference in a life of a child.

It really is silly to say that rape babies can be aborted and nothing else can.
And I don't know if this has been brought up, but how are you planning to tell if a pregnancy was conceived via rape? I can easily see women crying rape after they get pregnant because they want an abortion and innocent men being locked up. There is no decent way to tell the difference.

And just giving it up for adoption isn't the right choice for everyone.
First of all, there is the unwanted pregnancy that has to be endured. Not only is it an emotional stressor, it can cause about a billion complications. A woman should never be forced to carry to term if she doesn't want to. It's a violation of her right to her body.
Second of all, some people aren't comfortable with the idea of just leaving a baby out on a doorstep (theoretically) knowing that there's a good chance they just added another child into the system that won't be cared for. And on top of that, some people don't want a kid knocking on their door fifteen years down the line because they're looking for their birth parents. The parents may not want a reminder of the fact that they screwed up. Maybe they just aren't comfortable with the idea that their child is somewhere in the world.

As most rape victims are normally raped and 'dumped' they need to go to a clinic and get checked out. It can take anywhere from 2 hours to 3 days (max) for the sperm to fertilize an egg and start the baby's growth. Up to that point it is not a technical abortion. Anyone who waits 2 weeks to 2 months+ before they decide they need to abort the baby fucked up and need to put up with it. The decision at the time should be "Do I want to chance a baby or not."

Two weeks? Are you serious?
Most women don't even know they're pregnant at two weeks. Someone needs to 'just put up with it' because they didn't abort a pregnancy they didn't even know about? Two months isn't even into the second trimester yet, so I don't know why that's so terrible either.

Are you kidding me. Rape = forced sexual intercourse. Unprotected Sexual intercourse can, not always, but can create a child. If someone is being raped they need to accept the fact that if a rapist is willing to fuck them against their will. The rapist probably also doesnt give a shit if a raped female becomes pregnant. So, If they get raped. They should be getting checked for STD's immediately anyways. Since being at the clinic they should get a 'scrapping' to be prevent a possible pregnancy.

...But not all girls (or guys) are ready to step up right away and talk about what happened. So the exam will probably come second, if it happens at all. Of course the first thing you should do is to go to a doctor, but most people don't for whatever reason. And you apparently think they should be denied an abortion because they're human beings who have human reactions?

Edit:: didnt read the full post *sweat*

Bad things happen in life that are hard to prevent. However, when they happen people need to do everything possible to take care of themselves after it happens. Human pride is one of the biggest downfalls. Yes, they are in shock but at the same time the thought runs through peoples head "What will people think about what happened." is one of the factors. People fail to take care of themselves so they should be given the right to getting the abortion 5 months into the pregnancy? It can take some people years to get over the fact they were raped. Some people never get over it. So you are telling me that people should be given an elongated window into the pregnancy because they were raped? I find that a bit much. I do not see what is more important than your own health after a rape.

Everyone should be given the right to an abortion. :\
Preventing the possibility of pregnancy would be going back in time to make sure your rapist doesn't come in contact with you. Making the mistake of not going to a doctor immediately should not mean that a woman has to carry her baby to term. A pregnancy should always be a wanted one.

If you realize you are pregnant, then the only thing you should be thinking about is being pregnant. I realize that an abortion is the hardest decision ever, but you should be able to make your mind up in a month or two, not five.

Do you realize how many rapes are reported? It's estimated less than 2% are. You know how few women, not including raped men for this, can pick themselves up and go to the doctor? How many few afer the fact have enough in them to even report it, get help and everything?

It's quite easy to sit here and spout off these words, but be in the situation and you will be singing a different tune. Not everyone can get themselves taken care of a few days after the rape.

I agree with you on that. I think that no one should have to carry to term it they don't want to. It is my right as a woman to do with my unborn child as I wish.
But abortion in the third trimester is wrong.

Morning after pill and I can think of a few reasons a person wouldn't rush to the doctors after a rape.
Maybe she's ashamed it happened or maybe she's not ready to deal with it in two hours.

The morning after pill is the best thing ever

Often many places give women extra of it when they come in to refill birth control, which isn't a bad idea to keep around. Some pharmacy's will also just give it out.

But even if a women can't get to a doctor within the next several days after a rape, does not mean she should be denied an abortion. A rape is something super horrible and painful to deal with.

And also, back when abortion was illegal, that's what often happened. Women were claimed they were raped to get one. Or you got one performed by someone in a back alley. Which is often the way many women went, and many women died from it.

Which making rape only abortions legal quite often hurts married couples and women not wanting to falsely accuse men.

It is so sad to me that anyone needs to debate this. I mean, I don't remember even one person on here saying that abortion should be illegal, so what is the issue?

How many of those rapes reported are let off as false accusations?
How can there be a percentage for reporting rapes if they dont know they happen? That is a false statistic that cannot be proven. If only 2% are reported how the fuck does anyone know about even 50% of the 98% remaining in that statistic. That is a fucking stupid statistic do not come back in here arguing that again without a reliable site to back up your fact.
If people are too goddamn ignorant to report such a crime. Then they are shouldn't be fighting for an abortion. If they cannot come to terms with the fact they were raped and they need to do something about it. They should not be raising a child to begin with if they have no common sense to take care of their goddamn self.

You are right, it is easy to sit here and spout off these words. It is also easy to come up and spout off senseless unproven illogical facts with percentages for reports.
I bet you have the perfect scenario for how you would act if you had a gun to head. But I bet it completely turns when you have one held to your head. This is a proven fact that people act different in the situations they have never been in. That is why we try to instill into people throughout their lifetime to know how to react in situations. It is the persons own fault if they let their fear take over their logical thinking once the situation itself has passed.

I'm not spouting bullshit stats, this has been a stat I have known since i have been involved with sex education and women's rights. Try going here to http://www.rainn.org/statistics, and even so, that's with stats going up, let alone knowing that very few are reported.

Most rape victims know the rapist, do you know hard it is to come to terms with your BF, brother's best friend, guy you were seeing, friend, etc. it is to have them rape you? Let alone be able to pull yourself together to get to the doctor. Have you ever been around a women who has been raped or molested? I can easily tell you from experience it's not soo easy as you seem to think it is. And no, quite often the situation hasn't changed after the rape.

Please go tell the same thing to a women who has been raped and see how quickly the look of disgust comes over them for.

And if they can't come to terms with the rape, then why should they be forced to have the pregnancy that your demanding they carry because it took a month for them to discover after the fact they were pregnant? Your a horrible and ignorant person when it comes to women being raped.

Oh and a quick note: I call bullshit on your bolded statement in the quote. http://www.rainn.org/images/get-info.../60percent.jpg That is pulled from the site you provided. As well as the quote below. So before you start to try to give me a site as fact to your argument. Get your argument in line with the facts you are giving me.

Where is the statistic saying how they discovered the other 98% if they were not reported.

Rape victims are not the only people who have had fucked up shit happen to them. Do you have any idea how hard it is to get into a helicopter after seeing your friends, as well as 10 other peoples blood, body parts, and brain matter all over one? Yet myself and others have been able to because we knew we had to continue on. There were more important things then dwelling on the past.

It is because society accept people dwelling on the shitty parts of life. Since they accept it people find no reason to ever have a plan for anything but dwell on it. People know nothing more than to dwell and you cannot tell me I am wrong. Becuase that is the exact some thing you are saying.

I am not saying accept and get over it. I am saying they need to set their pride down for a minute and do what is needed to take care of themselves. Once that is done they have all the time in the world to dwell over things. God knows I spent my time dwelling over shit I have been through when I was able to. After the moment was not the time. There were things that needed to be done. Dwelling wasnt a luxury I was willing to risk my own life and health on. I miss my friends dearly, but I could not sit and sulk afterwards. I can't dwell and be like "Oh my god! I was molested 14 years ago. Oh poor me" It is done and over with. "I was beat as a child.I am insecure with myself." Should I spend months dwelling over things that have passed or should someone do something about it?

Out of all I just said, since the majority of it will be ignored answer this one question. Is dwelling on the rape more important than taking care of your health. It is not a mid-way question. It is a Yes or No question.

i dont agree with abortion at all, it isnt right in my eyes to end the life of another person simply because you cant cope with it or simply dont want it.

The words "life" and "person" are really the two fallacies in that sentence.

I don't see how an embryo or fetus of our species is not a person?. Is an unborn cat fetus not a cat?. If you opened up a dead pregnant cat and found unborn kittens, would you say there were the mother cat's extra cells or would you label them as unborn cats?.
Rightttt.....so I'd say an unborn person is still a person, a member of our species even if they haven't been born yet. An underdeveloped person, yet still a person.

Are some "pro choice" people afraid of the facts?. An embryo or a fetus is a person and when you abort that person, that person is killed. Fact is an abortion of an embryo or fetus is basically culling an unwanted person. However you wish to word it, doesn't change the facts. This is a living creature of our species that is underdeveloped.
Now you can argue that it's morally OK to kill this person under the circumstances.

PS: I support abortion as an necessary evil, but I will not resort to denying the facts sorounding it.

Tthis would be sorta like deciding it's OK to eat meat because you think we need it. Then saying since it's acceptable to eat meat, whatever animals that you killed for meat are not really real animals.
However you feel about eating meat, you cannot deny that the animal you decided to kill for meat is not a living animal.

I remember hearing about a woman that was denied the morning after pill by some bigoted pharmacist that had moral issues with it. I heard other things, but personally a relative of mine couldn't even get birth control to keep her cycles in check (so she doesn't bleed so much or something) without the snark and name-calling.

With things like that going on women may never fully be able to control what goes on in their bodies unless approved by everyone who's business it isn't.

Kudos to you and your friends for being able to move on and take care, but NOT everyone can and I'm surprised that you think that because you and your friends can that EVERYONE can. People are all different--they take things differently and need different amounts of time to process what happened to them and how to next proceed.

Remember, one size fits all can't be applied here.

If you use "person" synonymously with "human", then yes a embryo and a fetus are "persons". However, there's an extra little something that divides embryos and fetuses from everyone else.

Born persons are conscious and have some life experience (how much depending on age)--developing their quirks and personalities (personas).

Fetuses are definitely HUMAN, but they are not people. A human is simply one of our own species, while a person is an individual in society with a name and a birth certificate that has actually entered the world.

An embryo or fetus is just that, an embryo or fetus. Technically a living organism, but not a person. And yes, you are killing it, but you're not killing someone. You're killing something. See the distinction here?

Bad questions will get bad answers. :\
You're giving rape victims no time to heal or even process what happened. You're just expecting them to move on like nothing ever happened. If you're scared, and you don't have any reason to think there's an immediate threat to your health, then why suffer any more?

Yes I prefer the term people and persons to the term human because I find it more gender neutral.
I wish there were more gender neutral terms for fe- male and wo-man.

I don't really see special distinctions between the unborn and the born when it comes to near full term fetuses.
A pre-mature baby could be at the same stage as a late term aborted baby. I don't see the biological distinction, however I understand if a legal distinction has to made since later term abortions are sometimes necessary.