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Alice Elliot 12-22-2007 05:08 PM

Show the shrine page to me after Christmas, I'll be free by that time. :)

Yeah, there's an artist here but she's pretty expensive. I have to earn more because there are plenty of competitors. :domo:

Mushy Kylo Hendricks 12-22-2007 06:52 PM

Yeah I don't have time to work on any of the shrine before Christmas...especially not with online events. >.<;

Good luck trying to get a slot! What Shadow Hearts character will you have her draw?

Alice Elliot 12-23-2007 09:50 AM

To get a slot, I have to sell everything on this avatar...which I'm all of a sudden hesitant to do. I mean yeah, it's gold and red, not the blue and white colors of the real Alice...but hehe, lately I only want to dress the avatars with nice items, not necessarily imitating the true outfits. >_<

Hehe, just a few days more and it would be Christmas.

It was around this time when I played Shadow Hearts Covenant...back in 2004. Even though it came out around September was it? I didn't want to touch it, not when I knew they followed the bad ending. For months, after the announcement of SH2, I pretended it doesn't exist. XD

A Shadow Hearts game without Alice in it just feels...empty. At least, that's how I felt. For some strange reason, I love this character more and more as time passes...which is strange because it's human nature to get tired of things after a while right? But not with Alice. I don't know what it is exactly in her that enchanted me like this. *_*

Mushy Kylo Hendricks 12-23-2007 04:40 PM

I like the outfit you're wearing on that avatar now. I know Alice wears the white and blue outfit in the games, but I like to dress Madoka on gaia up in other things as well. It's really fun to see what other things work...^_~ Especially in fanart. I love seeing characters in something they would wear, only it's not the same thing they wore in the games.

I've never understood how people just get tired of something. I think it's okay to get into new things, but my love for Shadow Hearts hasn't died. In fact, when I come back to it, it just seems all the more amazing when I've played other games. I don't know if that makes a lot of sense, but that's really how I feel about it. I'm in love with the story and characters.

As you know, I did play Shadow Hearts: Covenant first, though I wasn't even halfway through when I acquired the first game and started to play it. That might have something to do with it - though I still finished Covenant before I finished the first. I was a little frustrated at times because I didn't know who Alice was, and it made me angry with Yuri for not talking more about her...haha. Though I realized he would have then talked to Karin, since she was always there...

I guess I just felt that Alice was a lovely character. I tend to like badasses like Yuri. I know that this pairing has been used as an example for people who don't agree with Yuri and Alice, but I'm using as it my backup for why Yuri and Alice can work - Squall and Rinoa. Squall's a teenager that seems completely antisocial, and Rinoa comes in and is fueled with a lot of energy. She's also a teenager. Yuri and Alice are much older, and Yuri's got nothing against people around him, he's just...on the leud side. XD

Alice is more gentle in nature; not bullheaded like Rinoa can be...

I don't know what it is, but Alice just seems...understanding. The kind of person I would want to talk to. People like Karin intimidate me in real life.

To say that the game felt empty, I can definitely see. You've fallen in love with the first set of characters - it's hard not to be in love with them. And then for one to be missing, it's just kind of wrenches the wound open a bit, doesn't it?

Alice Elliot 12-24-2007 11:44 AM

I always thought it would be great to have a friend like Alice, motherly, sisterly all rolled into one! :lol:

And she's not going to do it because she had to, but because she sincerely cares. :) I guess, I like her because she's not judgmental, understanding and all the goody goody things that some people find fake. XD

At the beginning of SH:C, I wanted to punch Yuri in the face...and just ask him, "Do you even miss Alice half as much as I do???" I felt as though he was already on the road to forgetting her, was about to embark into a new relationship with Karin. I guess that made me even more hostile towards her. :lol:

I felt Yuri redeemed himself when he tried to revive Alice. Rather than be moved by that scene, I was more relieved actually. XD I was all like "So you still care for her after all!"

In all honesty, if not for Shadow Hearts, I wouldn't be here at all, chatting online, I mean. >_<
I never felt the need to socialize through the internet before until the lack of SH fans here pushed me to seek other fans online. :3

I'm glad I did. I wouldn't have met you, Charis and Miko otherwise. <3

Mushy Kylo Hendricks 12-24-2007 06:45 PM

Hehe, I thought the same thing. Alice actually does remind me of a couple of people I know and love. Personality wise I mean. ^^; I do have a cousin that has light white/golden hair and blue eyes and could easily pull off an Alice cosplay but she doesn't have the same personality. XD

Yeah, there's nothing fake about her; just bitter people that don't think good exists in this world because they only remember and create the negatives. ^^;

I remember the scene in the Neam Ruins where he remembers her, and she's mentioned at the beginning, but the first time I played it, I didn't know who she was. T_T I just know that I was sitting there going, "I want to play the first game now!" Which I didn't have at the time.

I didn't socialize much until Shadow Hearts either. :3 There were some interests, and I suppose something might have pushed me...but I remember loving Shadow Hearts and having a myspace because my cousins talked me into it, and most people didn't really like Shadow Hearts/had even heard of it. Too many people told me Final Fantasy was ultimately better - that made me angry, and almost resentful towards trying FF. ^^; I eventually did, but on my own. Not because someone bashed my favorite game and told me there was something better. :evil:

I'm really glad I got on livejournal for Shadow Hearts. <3 I'm the same as you - I wouldn't know the amazing people I do if it wasn't for Shadow Hearts.

Alice Elliot 12-26-2007 02:53 AM

Off topic: Mushy, I'd suggest buying some collectible with your gold, that's more than enough for 2 December items. The only way to get them is through the exchange, unless of course you're saving them for an outfit you plan to do. :3

Mushy Kylo Hendricks 12-26-2007 05:26 AM

I'm not familiar with the exchange. Most exchanging and marketplace stuff, I tend to feel rather stupid about, and shy away from. XD

Alice Elliot 12-26-2007 06:02 AM

oh, first you look for the thread title that sells what you're looking for. Usually they have [s] Dec CI's or something like that. Sometimes you can just check each thread and look for the post where they list the items they're selling. Most shop thread here are buying and selling thread.

Then you just post an offer, but be sure to check the price guide so you'll know that your offer won't be too low or too high.

Now trading, if you're asked to go first, and you're buying something, you can't start the trade without adding an item first, so usually, you just add anything and then just remove the item later. Gold is added at the bottom of the trade window, click accept and wait for the other to confirm it. But, there's no notice for the trades, you'll have to check it manually. :3

Sellers are really nice, at least the ones I've met. :)

Mushy Kylo Hendricks 12-26-2007 06:21 AM

Thank you for all that info! ^_^. I tried already, but before I could post or PM, they were snatched up. I'm lazy I suppose tonight. I'll be back on tomorrow. Got some days yet. I like the items. <3

We should probably get back on subject now. ^^;

Alice Elliot 12-26-2007 06:38 AM

Truth be told, they're being lenient on the rules right now. Just the other day I pm'ed a mod about the posting style of a certain user because she was using all the tags possible, underline,bold,italic,size,color and there's a[list] tag too. But...it seems nothing was acted upon because the user still continued using the same style, and the mod told me that they'll be implementing some changes in the future about how tags won't affect gold earning.

Oh, check the mp threads too, they're being used as a hangout...not that I'm saying we should deliberately break rules because everyone seems to be doing it. :lol:

I just thought that conversations like the ones we're having should be just fine as long as we don't turn this into a spam fest. XD

Mushy Kylo Hendricks 12-26-2007 03:23 PM

Oh okay, I understand. I just didn't want either of us to get into trouble about it. I think in the end, it still relates back to Shadow Hearts because you're used to the MP and everything so you can buy art for your Yuri x Alice shrine. <3

I'm usually bad about approaching people in the marketplaces and exchanges, whereas I am starting to open up more in forums - though I still tend to hang out in certain spots, not posting everywhere.

I think it'd be neat if tags couldn't earn any gold. I'd like to be able to use quite a few without it seeming like I'd purposely inflate gold or something. ^^;

Alice Elliot 12-27-2007 04:45 AM

Um, I tend to feel 'detached' whenever I approach any sellers, all business-like, if you know what I mean. XD
I mean, I'm not out there to make friends >_<;; it's the item I'm after not their...erm, approval or companionship, as ebil as that makes me. :lol: So, I'm really comfortable with trades, as long as I have enough gold. And...believe it or not, most of the people here are kind, they want the new ones to stay and not to be turned off because someone had been too impatient to explain how trading works here. XD

Anyway, Tal sent me a Yuri/Alice christmas pic. Yeah, too late for Christmas but I'm very pleased with his gift. :D I'll be updating the shrine in a little bit. :twisted:

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...LilHelp00a.png

Mushy Kylo Hendricks 12-27-2007 02:14 PM

In real life I kind of feel intimidated to approach people in stores so online, it's the same. Well, offline I had to do it as my job, but as someone helping them, not someone asking for help. *has never been good at asking for help* Dx I know here it's not asking for help, you just do the transaction, but it's just easier to do things on the selling side of things, rather than the buying. XD

Hehe, I saw that earlier! <3
I LOVE Yuri and Alice's face in that picture! I'm glad he got around to finally giving you some art. :twisted:

They both look like they're having fun. ^__^ Tal does some amazing artwork. :3

Alice Elliot 12-30-2007 05:13 AM

Now that the event is over, I'll probably won't return here, unless they have another event. :lol:

I'll see you in Roli or Gaia. <3

Oh, before Charis kills me for going off-topic. I'd end this post on-topic. XD

*actually doesn't know what to say for she had said everything about loving Alice and etc. etc.* XD

I think the reason why I disliked SH:C is for its crazy endings...like how the director/writer just went with Karin's ending disregarding the plotholes that resulted from it. The same way for adding that extra scene in the good ending where Yuri went back in the beginning of SH1. Yes, their message is simple: Karin is Yuri's mom, and the good ending offers Yuri a chance to save Alice this time, to 'correct' his mistakes. But, the director didn't think further/beyond that simple message. Perhaps lack of time or other alternatives bound his hands, I don't know, but really, if you're going to pull a stunt like that at the end, iron out the inconsistencies first.

Like...consider how the fans would feel, it's like the first half of SH:C was focused on building up Yuri/Karin. Then comes the second half, and suddenly *BAM!* It's not going to happen! Yuri still wants Alice.

Or how it's literally impossible for Karin to be Yuri's mom considering they're of the same age. Wuh? Anne replacement theory? Nuu sir, the director himself said she's Karin. Would you go against his words? :lol:

Or how the good ending could alter everything in SH:C. Well, I'm pretty sure Nicolai would have still done something with Apoina Tower, even if he didn't curse Yuri...he's just that ambitious. Would Karin be there? I don't know. O_o; Would Yuri and Alice be in Domremy? I don't know.

Which is why, they should have stopped with the scene where Yuri and Alice floated away. That was good enough, they didn't have to add that beginning of SH1. ...Unless it's the world Yuri secretly prayed for, a world where Alice won't have to die. :3 And by that, I meant it's a separate world from the 'original' where SH1 and SH:C took place. In other words, his personal heaven.

Hehe, I could continue rambling, but I have to go now.

See you later Mushy, in Roli or Gaia. <3


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