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Cindy bear 04-13-2008 06:47 PM

Should Middle-School Kids be allowed to go on FaceBook?
 
Well this is a question that I have been thinking for a while now. I am still negoiating whether or not I should allow my children to use these "sites" to communicate with their friends (well when I get children when I grow up of course)

Also...

Is:

Facebook JUST "a social utility that connects you with the people around you?" or is it entirely more than that?

For those who believe that Middle-School Kids should be allowed to use these sites, even though they don't fit the age requirements, here are some questions that you can possibly answer for us:
- is Facebook benefiting them
- **to the above question** If so, how?

However, if you do not believe that Middle-School Kids should NOT BE allowed to use this site, explain your reasons here. Some possible questions that you could ask yourself:
- this is a "site" that kids could get attached on easily
- how they should use the time they waste here, and do something else productive
- is facebook affecting the grades of children?
- are children given the opportunity or chance to bully others?

But in conclusion, please give me opinions as to: "whether or not MIDDLE-SCHOOL kids should be allowed to go on Facebook"

Urboros 04-13-2008 06:59 PM

I think they really shouldn't be allowed, one because the internet is a major distraction even to me in college >.> It may cause grades to go down.

Also the middle school kids are getting lazier, I'm not sure if its the internet or just the attitude of the current society. Like changing channels on the TV if they can't find the remote they just watch the current channel...I still get up and use the button on the TV.

Then theres the question are they just on face book? Do they click on links? are they looking at inappropriate pictures or text? Rule #34 if it exists there is porn of it; and the internet is one big porn cest pool. (for me anyways)

I has to do with age and maturity of the kid in the end as well as what the parents want.

Cindy bear 04-13-2008 07:04 PM

Thank you for expressing your opinion, Urboros ^^

When I was surfing around to see some old high-school friends, I came across alot of kids, who seemed like they were still in the 8th grade.

So it made me wonder why Facebook isn't doing anything about this problem. Also, giving the others the opportunity to look at your profile, not knowing whether or not you've disabled it, is quite a problem as well.

Who knows whose taking down your information, you know>?

Vickicat 04-13-2008 07:04 PM

Facebook.
 
I don't think they should let middle schoolers on Facebook. -_-; Facebook started out as a thing just for college students. It was exclusive, and that was nice. It was different from all the other sites like Myspace who anyone could just sign up for. I thought the concept of it was pretty neat. Then they allowed high schoolers on there. I don't have anything against high schoolers, some of my friends are still in high school, and I've got them on my Facebook, and it's nice, but still, where do you draw the line? The site is for students, and high schoolers don't have a school email like college students do. And the email was what you had to have to sign up. So now anyone can go on there and say they are in high school and not give an email address. At least college and high school students are fairly close in age. Middle schoolers are much younger than college students and really don't belong in that community. Plus, most sites where you can talk to people online require you to be thirteen. Other than eighth graders, middle schoolers are younger than that. So I don't see how that would really work. And the eighth graders can wait a year and join when they are in high school, so why open it up for one more grade to join? Really I don't see the point in it.

Erathene 04-13-2008 07:04 PM

Middle-school or whatever age kids should be able to go on whatever sites they like. If they want to use facebook, myspace etc they should be allowed to.
Although I think that parents need to closely monitor what their child does online. It's far too easy for predators to lure children with the use of the internet. Even if it's reviewing internet history and cookies once a week, or blocking unsuitable websites, parents have to watch out for their children. None of this "well I don't know how to use the internet" talk, go out and learn how to use it and protect your kids!
I don't think using the site benefits them though, just gives them something to do with their free time. Keep in contact with friends, play games, share photos, isn't that what they would do outside of school without the internet anyways? :)

vadeil 04-13-2008 07:06 PM

i say they should not, if they need to talk to friends they can call them or spend time outside. i can see them being on it allot and grades slipping. also you can never know what they can get into on these types of sites

but if they must be on it monitor them and restrict time.

I'm 16 and i don't have a facebook, or any types of thos social sites. because i gravely dislike them.

Wendy Darling 04-13-2008 07:15 PM

Er, last time I checked, Facebook was only available to young adults ages sixteen or older. That doesn't include middle schoolers.

It's a group for high school and collegiate groups, mainly. Facebook actually started as a place strictly for college crowds to join up on their university network. Then it migrated to high school.

I'm pretty sure they don't even allow middle school children to sign up on the site. There is an age limit.

If I'm wrong, however, I wouldn't ever let my children be on Facebook. I know that's hypocritical, coming from me as I have one (yet I'm starting college soon), but when I was in middle school, I didn't know about half of the things that Facebook contains. I'm not saying it's a terrible site; there aren't very many filters at all on there, and practically anything goes (save raunchy pictures). It's a lot more private than a Myspace would be, but at the same time, the games and applications that are offered are -- putting it nicely -- sickeningly addicting.

When I was in middle school, I was on avatar sites like this (for a younger crowd), or pet sites like Neopets. I think that would be a much better option than a Facebook for your kids.

Rainy 04-13-2008 07:15 PM

Middle School
 
I don't think so, why should they be allowed to? Being in high school, people should be mature enough to decide what comments to post on facebook, cause others might see it. In middle school? I don't think they care if others see some absurd quote or picture on their profile.

Steve the Garden Hose 04-13-2008 07:16 PM

I believe they should be allowed to.
Why should they HAVE to do something productive all day long?
My best friend's parents think they're doing good by making him study every waking moment of the day, but they're only hurting him.


EDIT- Whats a middle school?
xD

I thought you meant high school.

Jali 04-13-2008 07:21 PM

I don't think anyone under the age of 16 {maybe even older} should be aloud to go on websites such as Myspace and Facebook.
I think it's completely pointless and ridiculous! ><
I hate how this generation of kids are all about computers and instead of going outside to play with their friends, their wasting away infront of a computer!
Kids are supposed to be outside, playing in the sprinklers, making mud pies!


They could call their friends on the phone, text message them, talk to them on an instant messanger!
Why do they need to have an online profile, giving all this information away { that their friends probably already know } ?
People other then their friends { maybe pervs } are looking at their profiles, at all this information.
It's just straight out dangerous!

Quote:

- this is a "site" that kids could get attached on easily
I don't really see how it could be so attracting to kids. It's not like the web pages have a bunch of bright colors and cartoons.
I think that because all their friends are doing it, because they see their older siblings doing it, they think it's cool. BUT IT ISN'T!

Quote:

- how they should use the time they waste here, and do something else productive
Get off your butt! Do something active! Play a sport, do some art, invite friends over, make mud pies, do little kid stuff!

Quote:

- is facebook affecting the grades of children?
I really wouldn't be surprised if it was and i'm pretty sure it is! I remember when I used to have a myspace, i would just ALWAYS be drawn back to it even if i was supposed to be doing homework.

Quote:

- are children given the opportunity or chance to bully others?
Yes! There is probably way more bullying then there used to be because now kids that are too shy to bully someone to their face can do it through the computer with no fear at all!


DOWN WITH MYSPACE AND FACEBOOK!

Sagitar 04-13-2008 07:27 PM

I don't see anything bad on facebook. there are far worse places than facebook.

butterscotch 04-13-2008 07:31 PM

Why just Facebook? I don't see why you would consider banning them from one networking site and not all of them.

I also don't see why it shouldn't be allowed, you know very well even if a child wasn't supposed to be on a site they'd do it anyway if they wanted to; it isn't hard to sneak around online behind your parents' back unless you have some sort of parental controls set up. And even then they could just use it at a friend's house. What if they ended up getting into some kind of trouble and were afraid to come to you because they weren't supposed to be on it in the first place? I think it's wiser to just teach them how to be safe online than attempt to ban them from something they'll likely use anyway. If you keep the communication open there's less chance of them doing something really stupid.

@ Jali: How many middle schoolers do you know that run around "making mud pies"? Times have changed and kids are growing up a lot faster than you'd think.

Jali 04-13-2008 07:34 PM

OOPS.
Thats true xD
When I wrote that part I wasn't thinking of middle schools in particular.
It's just my little siter, who is in elementry, had a myspace at one point!
And in elementry, kids should be making mud pies!
I really don't like how times have changed.
I hate all the new fancy technology that is taking over little kid's. D;

butterscotch 04-13-2008 07:37 PM

Oh okay. :P

I do agree that elementary school is a bit young.

Cows Go Moo 04-13-2008 07:41 PM

It really depends on what you mean as a middle schooler. An 8th grader is maybe since they're already able to use a number of sites by that age. Any younger is a no. It isn't necessarily productive, but it doesn't need to be in the first place. another thing is that I know many students with face books and they mostly get A's and B's. On the other hand I think parents should approve first before letting their children make an account. One thing though, is that it helps people keep in contact with those who can't be contacted through phone or IM.

@Jali:That's is waaaay too young for a Myspace ._.

Cindy bear 04-13-2008 07:47 PM

Oh, and I forgot to include sites like Myspace as well and etc.

I was just using Facebook as an example. But yes, I've seen younger people, as young as 9 years old, post their pictures in Myspace as well @[email protected]

Cherry Who? 04-13-2008 07:57 PM

Well, it depends. If they are under thirteen, then definitely not, because people under thirteen are not even legally allowed to join. (They still do, but they shouldn't)

Secondly, it depends on how smart they are. I'm not saying your children are dumb, but if they don't have the common sense not to add every single stranger they see to their friendslist, then no, they should not be allowed to join. If they're the kind of kid that would go head over heels over some cute stranger online just because he called them pretty, then no. That's asking for a whole word of Dateline-worthy trouble.
But if your kid is over thirteen, and will use it only to talk to their REAL friends (not total strangers), then I don't see why they shouldn't be able to.

Urboros 04-13-2008 07:57 PM

Ah cindy bear about that, you can actually google my name and come up with all sorts of websites that I'm on. :roll:

I try to be a vague as possible with personal information <.<
Profile? stalker! actually my Mene profile is lacking I'm waiting for the big update.

Mythium 04-13-2008 10:28 PM

I'm 13, and I have a myyearbook and myspace account. My parents don't know I do, cause they would freak. I made my accounts so that only my friends can see them, and my friends are my family and my actual friends that I see at school everyday.

I'm not even going to bother with facebook because I can already get to my friends on other sites.

I don't think you would be able to do anything about your future children getting accounts that you wouldn't like them to have.

Teenagers are capable of many things, since we were born in a computer age and all.

Allura Minelle 04-13-2008 11:13 PM

Honestly, I would NOT let my children use facebook.

At first, I was thinking facebook is much better than myspace because it's safer, but then again, if these kids are adding people they don't know, these people will find your location, because facebook has networks for schools that give away WHERE you are.

Plus, facebook is a network for HIGH SCHOOLS and COLLEGES. Middle schools do not have a place on that website.


I would not allow them on their own. If they are adding people recklessly, it could be dangerous, but then again, people don't free add like they do on myspace...

What you could do is allow them to use these websites on the one condition that you have their password and that you are allowed to monitor those they add.


Also, it is true that you will not be able to stop them. They'll eventually find a way.

And you'd be shocked with the youth these days. Alot of them are taking provocative pictures and have weed symbols on their sites.

Good luck!

extraordinary_rebel_13 04-20-2008 08:16 PM

I'm in 8th grade and i have a Facebook. I like it more than Myspace, because it doesn't have as many ads and inappropriate things.
My belief is that if someone knows how to be safe on the InterWebs, they can have a Facebook or Myspace or whatever. I have 58 friends on my Facebook and of them, i know 57. The last one can only see my limited profile and all we talk about is Harry Potter.
Some of the sixth graders at my school have Facebooks and i don't think they should. Yes, i had to lie about my age, but only by one year. Kids lying by three or four years... that just isn't cool.

Bread Chan 04-21-2008 12:07 AM

It isn't aimed for middle schoolers. I wasn't even allowed to wear PANTS until High School, I just can't see how these kids can easily just give away their whereabouts right under their parents noses.

LadyGenivive 04-21-2008 12:15 AM

I don't think so. I think if they have a private myspace then it's a different story, but I know little 13 year old kids that have public myspaces that are in potential of danger by giving out their wereabouts. I understand that some people ie: My 13 year old brother, want to have a myspace, and I think thats fine as long as he is careful which I know he is, and makes sure that he only friends people that he knows in real life, he has me on there because I am going to colege soon, and he wants to keep in touch, yes we could talk over the Phone or IM, but he wants to see pictures of me too, and honestly I don't have a problem with the way he uses his myspace.

I have a problem when 12 year old girls sign up on myspace and put their picture up for all the world to see and the sad thing is, is they're normally too stupid to have a private myspace and put in personal information. That's when I get pissed at kids having a myspace...

Ariel 04-22-2008 12:40 AM

Well, it's better than Myspace, but it's target audience isn't really kids. It was originally for university and college students. Personally, I think they should have kept it that way but that's just my opinion.

Invert 04-22-2008 01:47 AM

I'm not sure if facebook is necessary.
If your child finds facebook as a life and death situation,
just make sure they don't talk to strangers, only friends they know...
and a whole lot of obvious basic procedures for safety, anyway.


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