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Originally Posted by Amethyst Lavenlight
Men's bodies are programmed to take as much "booty" as they can get. It's how nature spreads its genes.
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Prove this, as it sounds like typical unscientific "men will be men" nonsense (and trust me, if you can't prove it, I can prove it wrong). While you're at it, prove that the only reason for sex is procreation.
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But it's still up to both the man and woman to decide whether to slip on a condom quick or not. Both have the same ability to be responsible, do they not? Or are you saying that only females can make responsible or unresponsible decisions?
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Unless you're referring to "female" condoms, no, it's not up to the couple to "slip on the condom" (provided there's one available), it's up to the man. If he refuses, it's up to the woman to refuse sex, which means resisting the rather pervasive idea that "it's already gotten this far, I can't really tell him no" and hoping that that same idea doesn't lead to her being raped and him getting away with it. Absolutely everything else is left up to women; birth control, "morning after" pills, abortions, abstinence (thanks to the mentality you demonstrated earlier, women are seen as the "gatekeepers" to their vaginas), everything. And if you realize this, then even if you do not include gendered language and feign ignorance of issues like power dynamics and men's implied ownership of sex and sexuality and women being framed as simply the providers, you're still putting nearly all the responsibility on women and very little on men when you say that reproducing is irresponsible and bad and "people" shouldn't do it.
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Not true. There are many Americans trying to adopt within their own country, but they've become so frustrated at the system that they're adopting Russian or African babies instead. Does that sound like discriminatory tastes to you?
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Yes true. Do you know how many children are up for adoption in the US, versus how many people are looking to adopt?
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Their economic position determines whether their child will grow up hungry, sick, and traumatized or happy, healthy, and full.
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Which is why I'm dead right now, seeing as how I was raised in poverty by a single mother. Oh wait.
Economic position only determines their lives because the poor are seen as having brought it on themselves, and poverty is seen as a problem which, if left alone (read: no assistance from those more fortunate), will fix itself because they'll all die out and then there will only be rich people! Lowering our population wouldn't fix poverty, since it's not too many people and too little resources but rather a few people who hoard all the resources, far more than they need, that causes it to begin with, but the way you're suggesting we do it would make life all the more miserable for those unfortunate enough to be born into poverty.
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But the main problem is that poor parents keep having more kids even when they can't even take care of one. It makes me wonder if child services has too much on its hands to handle all of them.
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You're aware that poor people aren't the only ones who abuse/neglect children, yes?
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Also, every human has rights, but from what I've seen, children's rights trump those of their elders. Everyone is always looking out for the child's best interests. And when those "feed the Africans" commercials come on, do they show adults? No, they always feature children. Why? Because people cringe at any injustice towards youngsters rather than their adult counterparts.
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Other people's sympathies don't excuse your suggesting we commit atrocities against adults for the sake of children. If you do not have a justification for it, drop it, because it's illogical and inhumane and incredibly shortsighted by every measurement I can think of. Children aren't an archetype, they're individuals who grow up to become adults. If you're being cruel to adults, you're being cruel to children, just a few years later.
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Which explains my point that it is a lack of technology (lack of knowledge of birth-control technology, more specifically) that's created this massive population of unwanted children.
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So you just completely skipped over the part where I suggested that society's insistence on women being baby-producers and subject to the whims of men is to blame for it as well? The stigma around Planned Parenthood proves that access is not truly access if you're shamed into not taking advantage of it when you need to.