Link. If that's actually true, it's a case I haven't heard about. Also, uh, no. The Bill of Rights is meaningless in schools, otherwise dress codes would be unconstitutional and children would be allowed to say whatever they like.



Ha! Right. See? I can do it too.


Every anti-gay hate group in the US is overtly Christian, usually having it in their name, often being run by a religious official of some sort. They're not the only bigots, and I never said they were. But atheists (aka non-religious; not the same thing) do not get laws passed. Muslims do not get laws passed. Jews and pagans and Buddhists do not get laws passed. There is not a single law that gets passed in this country that does not have at least sizeable, if not complete, Christian support. They're just too big a group not to determine the political landscape. And not only are politicians concerned about their "base" and making Christians happy, but they're almost always Christian themselves. And then, on top of that, we live in what could certainly be described as a Christian culture. Even those who are not Christians are still heavily influenced by Christianity (which is how we get idiotic statements like "Christmas is secular!").

Here's the thing: you don't get to decide that. See, the law of agape isn't as cut-and-dry as all that. Eternal, constant YHVH said he hated many people, and it was after going on his little "brotherly love" thing that Yeshua claimed all who follow him must hate their families and friends, must forsake them, because in order to truly follow him they must love only him.

Then you have the fact that you're not the first Christian with a Bible. The Christians who came before you, who murdered and tortured non-Christians and other Christians alike, who to this very day often support violent ideologies (anti-choice, pro-war, pro-death penalty, just to name a bit) read the exact same thing you did, and obviously took it a different way. You have no right to say that they weren't Christian, just because they didn't believe the exact same way you do.

And then, for modern-day Christians, there's a very easy out, one they employ often -- they just claim they don't hate gay people. They may say that YHVH hates gays, and since he did hate people according to the Bible it's completely possible, but if you ask them about their personal feelings, they'll tell you no, that they *love* gay people, they just want to make them change so they don't burn in Hell.

The issue is, all this about "they weren't really Christians" and "it's not JUST Christians", aside from being a clever way for the majority to minimize its numbers so they can foster the persecution complex they so desire, is just an excuse. Christianity isn't bad. Not my thing, but that doesn't mean it's not right for anyone. But a lot of Christians are. If you're really not like "them", like the Inquisitors and witch-burners and pagan-slaughterers and culture-eradicators and slavery-supporters and patriarchists and gay-haters and morality-legislators and people yelling about "PC" when what they really mean is "removing Christianity's 'special' status", then you can prove it by taking responsibility for your brethren, rather than trying to act like they don't exist.

As an aside, no, there is nothing that says the laws of the Old Testament "don't matter". In fact, Yeshua said exactly the opposite of that, that he did not come to do away with the old laws. It's just the Levitical laws, those applying strictly to Jews and mostly dealing with ritual purity, that Christians have no reason to follow.

Also, I like how you didn't actually address anything I said, including a question I asked you, but rather fractions of sentences from entire paragraphs.