That's an insane amount of work. Thank you for taking the time to explain it to us, it helps give us a better idea of what you're going through 'behind the scenes'. We thank you as well. I wish I could help troubleshoot the permission problem. I've done database work, though it's been a little while. I ran a community with message boards, my own database, no ads... all on my own. I remember all the stuff I would have to do by hand because it was my friend's home-brewed code. Good times! Anyways, thank you. I always appreciate it when someone explains things to me... and I get frustrated when people give me quip answers akin to the 'because I said so' that you would give a child. >.>