Oh, I didn't know that applied to music shows as well

Yeah, they're not 'newly' established style and tempo anymore I remember 'Face' was a pretty unique concept for Kpop.

I guess since a lot of Kpop is similar to each other and I like it regardless, I like them too, even though they were supposed to have been different.
If I go in without expecting them to get creative, I like their songs as much as any formulaic group. I liked 'GoodBye Bye' a lot for example.

I just don't think they deserve to lose their fanbase :/ although it's understandable that after they change concepts into something more generic the fans that enjoyed them before may not anymore, I also think other groups who change concept or image often don't suffer similarly. I think it's also to do with Pledis sending them overseas and not promoting them much in Korea for a long while. (And I like to blame that the most because heh me )