--Well, this site is very boring and everything is censored. What fun is it if you can't even do violence? Do the administrators think we're all like six or something? Why do I bother coming here? Well, I know that all of these questions will never be answered because I contacted a mod and it takes her forever to get back to me. Well, I'm here now and I guess if you want to do something, ask. It probably doesn't even allow yuri because they're so prejudiced against everyone here. I don't even know why in staying on this site. And it's not you, it's the staff--

I don't know why I'm still here, but, however, if any of my threads are deleting again I am filing a complaint or blogging against this, since I hate this site yet I love it. I barely have any friends because nobody likes me since I'm weird. And I checked out the sister site, and am happy to say that it is a total pit there. And this is CENSORSHIP, and censorship is the complete opposite of a good thing, mind you. Soon politics will be banning censorship once it goes the way if the dinosaurs. We need to stop this. Did the African Americans stop with Martin Luther King when they were denied THEIR rights?!!!!? I think not. And, I shan't relax until this is dealt with.

To the side administrator(s), I humbly ask of you to pardon this and to at least converse and communicate with the Menewshan members. If you fail to do this, then I bid you farewell, and to the community of brainwashed, corrupt followers and cohorts.

| Very well. Have a nice day, folks |

I'm going to try and help you understand. Hopefully I can help you understand the mind frame behind why we do what we do. Menewshan staff cares very deeply about the site, and they uphold the rules so that everyone can be comfortable, not just to ruin your fun. Menewsha does allow users as young as 13 to join the site, hence why we must uphold the PG-13 rating. We are not the only site, nor is the internet the only place to create such a situation. The RPs you were requesting would have fallen in a category that would have shot way past PG-13 and even the R rating. In the very very least you would have fallen into the NC-17 category. Would you be for a 13 year old entering a movie rated NC-17?

Well whether or not you are or you aren't isn't the question here. We follow the same rules and restrictions as the movie theater and many other places. We've chosen to allow younger users, and so we uphold the younger rules. We do allow romance in an RP but it must have a blanket cover on it or it would push us outside that PG-13 rating. Its not about rights, its about rules. We aren't stopping you from having these types of RPs, we're just stopping you from having them here. We've even offered you an alternative.

If you ask about the four big No-no's we have. Well those are illegal. Plain and simple as that.

Yuri and Yoai are perfectly acceptable so long as they are within the rules. We also have never said violence isn't allowed, we've only asked that a warning be placed so that those with a weak stomach for such things have a way of avoiding it.

A final point here. Menewsha is a small community and its not as fast as a large company like...say Gaia. I assure you the staff, care very deeply. The staff here is run by a few extremely dedicated people who give what little time they have in their extremely busy lives to this place. The mod you contacted will get back to you the next time she gets on, she probably just hasn't seen it yet. Have patience with her, whichever one it was.

JennaTheYandere: As a PG-13 site, we have a legal obligation to protect our younger members from sexual predation.

The ugly truth is that there are folks out there on the interwebz who do attempt to lure kids into RL sexual situations. A lot of the time it starts with something "innocent" like sexy talk on a forum.

We do not, and will not, allow adult content to be graphically roleplayed here - it amounts to sexy talk.

I'm not sure how passionate Dr. King would have felt about Invader Zim smut, but I do know that protecting the innocence of children is a cause he felt worthwhile. :)

BellyButton: Cora: JennaTheYandere:

I hope you won't mind if I throw my two cents in.

Now while I can say that this site censorship is, to quite a few people, a nuisance at times, The fact remains is that these safeguards are put in place with the best intentions. They mean no ill will, no problems to you or to anyone else about what your taste is, but they are doing their job as site Moderators and Administrators about keeping things on the level, and keeping young people safe.

My friend was once hacked on this site, due to her being very trusting of the community. While I can certainly say that this may be a lapse in security, I think that only proves just how well the sites admins keep this place under control. The issue was dealt with, and my friends account was returned.

If you're not happy with the censorship, there are plenty of other sites worth checking out, this isn't the only one. But I would tell you that blogging against them is relatively pointless. There are many people on this site that trust the mods greatly, and this site does have a very strong community reputation. Doing something like that, would be an ant trying to stop a tsunami.

I hope you'll take my response into consideration, and understand that they're just doing their jobs. You can't fault them for that.

Originally Posted by Andraus

BellyButton: Cora: JennaTheYandere:

I hope you won't mind if I throw my two cents in.

Now while I can say that this site censorship is, to quite a few people, a nuisance at times, The fact remains is that these safeguards are put in place with the best intentions. They mean no ill will, no problems to you or to anyone else about what your taste is, but they are doing their job as site Moderators and Administrators about keeping things on the level, and keeping young people safe.

My friend was once hacked on this site, due to her being very trusting of the community. While I can certainly say that this may be a lapse in security, I think that only proves just how well the sites admins keep this place under control. The issue was dealt with, and my friends account was returned.

If you're not happy with the censorship, there are plenty of other sites worth checking out, this isn't the only one. But I would tell you that blogging against them is relatively pointless. There are many people on this site that trust the mods greatly, and this site does have a very strong community reputation. Doing something like that, would be an ant trying to stop a tsunami.

I hope you'll take my response into consideration, and understand that they're just doing their jobs. You can't fault them for that.

Hello, I do appreciate that you have politely taking this conversation into appreciation, and thank you for that :)

However, I believe that if Menewsha wants more members, staff should stop being so prejudice and discriminating against likes and dislikes. And, I'm all for thirteen year olds being admitted into an NC-17-rated movie, like someone said above. But on tons of other sites, I have written and roleplayed very mature situations, and the Menewsha staff flip the fudge out apparently with the site. Half the population of Menewsha is at least over thirteen years of age, and if children don't like it, I don't know, play Moshi Monsters or Animal Jam or something. Once again, I am powerless to tell a site webmaster how to do their job, but this is something pompously awful. But, once again, I do thank you for taking this into consideration. And, yes, I am against internet predation, but using your creativity for a fandom to write lemons? Like everyone on fanfiction.net and A03 is ridiculous. The population in that is younger than Menewsha, and that is a fact.

And, the sister site is far too dangerous. It's filled with things worse than a simple "lemon", they have inappropriate relationships being role played which is far beyond the fine line between being in love with your boyfriend and girlfriend and situations that aren't even love...they're lust.

Belly explained it perfectly
with young, impressionable kids
able to read what is written we're
responsible to keep it PG-13, period
It's not to stifle you, it's to protect them
I'm not sure of all the particulars but give mene a chance
I'm sure you'll make friends here, jenna, weird is wonderful =3

Originally Posted by BellyButton

JennaTheYandere: As a PG-13 site, we have a legal obligation to protect our younger members from sexual predation.

The ugly truth is that there are folks out there on the interwebz who do attempt to lure kids into RL sexual situations. A lot of the time it starts with something "innocent" like sexy talk on a forum.

We do not, and will not, allow adult content to be graphically roleplayed here - it amounts to sexy talk.

I'm not sure how passionate Dr. King would have felt about Invader Zim smut, but I do know that protecting the innocence of children is a cause he felt worthwhile. :)

Hey, that actually made me giggle at the end. Thank you for being polite, at least. :)

I'm on my tab and it keeps auto correcting on me
I personally like weird/unique people/personalities
I also think everyone should express their opinions
try to adapt to mene rules and give RP'S a try
You might find a great RPing partner =3

Yay \♡/ happy I made ya giggle

I just want to add something as far as the connection between internet predators and sexual roleplays.

Sexual conversations with minors over the internet is, in fact, illegal. Whether or not it's illegal where you come from isn't the point, it's illegal in most parts of the world and that's why Menewsha has to uphold the law.

In my own experience, I used to roleplay very mature things when I was a minor and through that I met an older man who ended up being sexually abusive. Granted, that's probably the worst case scenario, but as an impressionable kid, it's easy for some old pervert to get their kicks out of a sexual roleplay with a minor. In my experience, the police actually used me and my abuser's roleplay emails as evidence against him, because that basically counts as "sexting" which is also illegal for minors. Our graphically sexual roleplays were basically a gateway to him getting connected with me and him taking advantage of me.

That is why they have the rules, to protect others. It's not because we're trying to hide them from seeing sexual content, it's to protect minors from getting into dangerous situations with selfish adults and frankly, I love that they have this rule set in place and I'm glad Menewsha continues to enforce it.

I do want to let you know that you can have a successful RP without graphic details.

There are many amazing books and stories written out there today that have been popular for generations that don't involve graphic sexual content.

In fact, I believe the best stories are written without sex and violence as it's main focus. The beauty in RPing here, in my opinion, is that you're basically writing and illustrating a story with another person. This makes it great for character development, plot progression and illustrating settings.

There's more to stories than just sex and violence.

Originally Posted by Ava The Vampire

I just want to add something as far as the connection between internet predators and sexual roleplays.

Sexual conversations with minors over the internet is, in fact, illegal. Whether or not it's illegal where you come from isn't the point, it's illegal in most parts of the world and that's why Menewsha has to uphold the law.

In my own experience, I used to roleplay very mature things when I was a minor and through that I met an older man who ended up being sexually abusive. Granted, that's probably the worst case scenario, but as an impressionable kid, it's easy for some old pervert to get their kicks out of a sexual roleplay with a minor. In my experience, the police actually used me and my abuser's roleplay emails as evidence against him, because that basically counts as "sexting" which is also illegal for minors. Our graphically sexual roleplays were basically a gateway to him getting connected with me and him taking advantage of me.

That is why they have the rules, to protect others. It's not because we're trying to hide them from seeing sexual content, it's to protect minors from getting into dangerous situations with selfish adults and frankly, I love that they have this rule set in place and I'm glad Menewsha continues to enforce it.

I do want to let you know that you can have a successful RP without graphic details.

There are many amazing books and stories written out there today that have been popular for generations that don't involve graphic sexual content.

In fact, I believe the best stories are written without sex and violence as it's main focus. The beauty in RPing here, in my opinion, is that you're basically writing and illustrating a story with another person. This makes it great for character development, plot progression and illustrating settings.

There's more to stories than just sex and violence.

Well, I'm sorry this had to happen to you ;/

I'm mistreated on all of my other sites by those who call "friends." I have a disease where I vomit constantly for months, and I'm looking to a dangerous point, near death soon. Yes, I look scrawny, thin as a toothpick now since I have this disease. By roleplaying mature situations, I oddly enough feel relaxed and loved. And I'm not an avid reader, but steamy books are my thing. "Fifty Shades of Grey" spanned a large fan base that was adapted into a movie. Why?!? People dig that kinda stuff. That doesn't make them internet predators, it just means they're different.

And, I have seen from Menewsha, that this site is not for me. How is it's cousin site different from it in terms of roleplaying?! Not just that but fiction writing, poetry, etc. Are we supposed to roleplay about getting to the letter M in our preschool alphabet?!?!
Love and, the s are beautiful things that form a bond that is unseparatable(sp? Sorry it's my phone and autocorrect), that enhance your love for a partner. I can understand why nasty unhealthy stuff and non con is against the rules, but saying that it is a bad thing in general is completely misogynist and misandrist, and turns against the nature that is so natural even animals do it.

Just saying, it's a natural thing that happens, everyone loves it whether they talk about it openly or not.

We haven't said its a bad thing, as you've mention its a very natural thing. I have two kids, I guarantee they didn't sprout out of thin air

We really are just saying that we have a children base here and that's a perfect target for predators.

Originally Posted by Cora

We haven't said its a bad thing, as you've mention its a very natural thing. I have two kids, I guarantee they didn't sprout out of thin air

We really are just saying that we have a children base here and that's a perfect target for predators.

Heh, that's okay. I understand. On a site called DeviantArt, people roleplay lets just say the show My Little Pony( btw I can assure you that I'm not a pegasister one drop, I'm just using it as an example. And yes it is natural. If it was a bad thing, why do lovers do it?)

And, let's just say people ship two characters from the show, or with an OC( original character.) These two people love the show and want to make a roleplay about it Lets say Rainbow Dash and Big Macintosh, and they do a scene where it is lets just say a little bit "mature.") These people never talk about this kind of stuff OOC, and it's only a shipping lemon thing. But thank you for understanding

I trust if you give this site some more time, it will be easier to adjust. I understand you have your own preferential tastes, and that things may not be to your liking, but there are good people here.

I never said sex was bad,

All I'm saying is that not everyone thinks like you and sexual role plays are an easy gateway for younger members to become subject to abuse.
And regardless, sexting and sexual content is illegal for younger members.

I understand being bored, but there is so much more to life and so much more to a role play than sex. In real life sex isn't all there is in life. Yes, people have sex but that's not all they do. People have jobs, people travel, people make friends, build thins, have conflicts. Sex doesn't make the world go around.

I'm not trying to put you down, I'm just saying, to expand as a writer it may be helpful to learn to stray away from putting emphasis on sex and more emphasis on story.

Originally Posted by Ava The Vampire

I never said sex was bad,

All I'm saying is that not everyone thinks like you and sexual role plays are an easy gateway for younger members to become subject to abuse.
And regardless, sexting and sexual content is illegal for younger members.

I understand being bored, but there is so much more to life and so much more to a role play than sex. In real life sex isn't all there is in life. Yes, people have sex but that's not all they do. People have jobs, people travel, people make friends, build thins, have conflicts. Sex doesn't make the world go around.

I'm not trying to put you down, I'm just saying, to expand as a writer it may be helpful to learn to stray away from putting emphasis on sex and more emphasis on story.

Yes, I have written fiction aimed towards a younger audience before. It's just that I like drama and gore to spice it up a bit :-)

And I enjoy traveling, music, poetry, yes there is so much more to life :3

but without the romance, the kiss, the love...I will not let anyone tell me love is wrong. It is not wrong, it's the most beautiful feeling in the world

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And, btw, Quizilla(now defunct, only due to the lack of use and being bought by a different company), DeviantArt , and all the rest allow that content, why doesn't Menewsha? Just asking out of curiosity. I can understand that the majority of this site are all good people. I can already tell that :-)

But, due to the boringness that is irrelevant to any mature role plays, nobody is even asking. I would be happy to as long as there is some sort of romance in it. But apparently kissing someone is abuse to all of the prudes. You can't call a little natural hormones abuse :/

I'm not talking about romance, I'm talking about graphic sexual content with minors.
Some minors may fall under the radar but places, like deviantart, do have rules against minors viewing graphic sexual content. I know this because when I was a minor on deviantart, mature content was hidden and couldn't be accessed until I turned 18.

Kissing isn't wrong and love isn't wrong.
But sex and sexual content with minors is against the law. That's to protect the minors.
No one here is trying to make you upset or trying to censor you, personally. The reason for the PG-13 cap is because sex and sexual relations even in role playing is illegal with minors. And considering that this site attracts minors means that Menewsha cannot legally let minors be involved in sexual role plays with adults.

It's all in protection of the younger members. And it is the law of many parts of the world. Menewsha is not above the law. And as I said, I'm glad that the admins care so much about their members, it says a lot about the community to me that they spend time enforcing their rules and filtering out the creeps.

Kissing falls well within the definition of PG-13. That's certainly allowed. As Ava said, Mene's rules are in line with external concepts of what is explicit. We're not here to censor the human narrative at large, we're here so that that which is adult content is not something anyone can find themselves in the midst of. Mene is like an all - ages club - the bar isn't open because minors getting into alcohol is unsafe.

Originally Posted by JennaTheYandere

[/COLOR]And, btw, Quizilla(now defunct, only due to the lack of use and being bought by a different company), DeviantArt , and all the rest allow that content, why doesn't Menewsha? Just asking out of curiosity. I can understand that the majority of this site are all good people. I can already tell that :-)

But, due to the boringness that is irrelevant to any mature role plays, nobody is even asking. I would be happy to as long as there is some sort of romance in it. But apparently kissing someone is abuse to all of the prudes. You can't call a little natural hormones abuse :/

These sites do not allow the viewing of mature material to minors and have a filter built in which menewsha does not and therefore cannot act in the same way. And to note, FF.net does not allow MA fanfics at all. Just because the mods do not actively moderate does not mean the material is not against their rules.

Romance is not the least bit forbidden here. Nor is mature love between consenting adult characters, which I think you are misunderstanding. There is no rule against the idea existing, so long as it is not explicitly written out which would count as pornographic material. If you wish for these elements to exist, use WFTrpg, the sister site where this material is allowed. You are perfectly welcome to write these things on a site such as that.

There are other things to do on menewsha besides rp smut because this is a forum not explicitly for writing/rping. Accept that this site, like most, has rules. You debating things will not change this, so accept and move on.

Originally Posted by Kat Dakuu

These sites do not allow the viewing of mature material to minors and have a filter built in which menewsha does not and therefore cannot act in the same way. And to note, FF.net does not allow MA fanfics at all. Just because the mods do not actively moderate does not mean the material is not against their rules.

Romance is not the least bit forbidden here. Nor is mature love between consenting adult characters, which I think you are misunderstanding. There is no rule against the idea existing, so long as it is not explicitly written out which would count as pornographic material. If you wish for these elements to exist, use WFTrpg, the sister site where this material is allowed. You are perfectly welcome to write these things on a site such as that.

There are other things to do on menewsha besides rp smut because this is a forum not explicitly for writing/rping. Accept that this site, like most, has rules. You debating things will not change this, so accept and move on.

This quote is a perfect example of how freedom of art is censored on sites such as these. I have better things to do than to swear at Menewshans, like someone just did to me on a different thread. If natural sexuality is censored, just asking, why isn't cyber- bullying and extreme harassment like I have seen on a page explaining the specific reason I was leaving this site. Also, like pretty much everywhere, we have to pay to use the internet, and it's using up a lot of it. So id request for this account to be deleted. I have reported the individual whom was cussing at me, and telling me I cannot handle mature content, when this apparently is a site built for three year olds and under. This is why I am requesting this, since this site is not all that I thought it would be at first. Like everyone, I have to study and take care of family, and I have a disease, as I mentioned above, where I am near death and excessively vomiting. The doctor won't take me because they are taking their time, choosing to disbelieve the urgency of this situation.

Thank you,

---------- Post added 09-28-2015 at 09:38 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Kat Dakuu

These sites do not allow the viewing of mature material to minors and have a filter built in which menewsha does not and therefore cannot act in the same way. And to note, FF.net does not allow MA fanfics at all. Just because the mods do not actively moderate does not mean the material is not against their rules.

Romance is not the least bit forbidden here. Nor is mature love between consenting adult characters, which I think you are misunderstanding. There is no rule against the idea existing, so long as it is not explicitly written out which would count as pornographic material. If you wish for these elements to exist, use WFTrpg, the sister site where this material is allowed. You are perfectly welcome to write these things on a site such as that.

There are other things to do on menewsha besides rp smut because this is a forum not explicitly for writing/rping. Accept that this site, like most, has rules. You debating things will not change this, so accept and move on.

Please explain how minors pretending to be adults roleplaying on the sister site is any different from roleplaying on here.

And, yes, I have done smut on DeviantArt.

I'm actually younger than 22. I had to say I was, and apparently nobody here is willing to agree with me. Since it's full of harassers pretending to be friends. There is no plot, no love to roleplaying. I'm not letting you tell me love is wrong, or anyone else. I'm actually, I'm never going to tell you or anyone else my real age simply because you will never find it out. However, I am NOT 22. And that's the only clue I'll give out. This site literally has millions of devoted harassers on it. Without a little drama or violence, there's nothing to rp about. Nothing. There needs to be love. And, yes, maybe I will use the sister site. Maybe I'll use every site BESiDES this empty domain.

I hope the little eight year olds swearing at me get what they deserve.