Ok so I was watching the news yesturday morning and threse two girls form a Luthran school got kicked out for showing affection towards each other.

They sued the school and lost. The reason: The school is not a public domain.

They appealed it saying that the school was very public because they sold jackets and tickets to sporting events to the public. They lost again.

What is this world coming to if kids get kicked out of school for being in love, dispite the gender?

You opinions.

Well, it being a religious school, the school has every right to expel them. Especially since being homosexual is against alot of religions.

However, if it were a public school, it would be a different case. We have a whole buttload of homosexuals at my school (and most of them are my friends, but, I am straight.) And, since it's a public school, they can't expel them for their sexuality. If they choose to display their affection in inappropriate ways, though, they can get expelled for indecency.

I, personally, have nothing against homosexuals. I would never go for another girl, but some of my best friends are homosexuals. We have one rule. As long as they don't hit on me, we'll get along fine. NOw, as for guys, I'm a little more comfortable with them because, A. they aren't hitting on me (unless it's playful and meaningless) and B. I can totally see why they like dudes, because, I absoluteyl love guys, too.

But, all of this is just in my opinion, the whole schools kicking people out thing was just what i thought, it's probably not fact. It just seemed logical.

The very term "Lutheran School" makes the school a private entity and subject to their own regulations, period. It was just poor planning for the girls to think anything else would happen, given their location.

Now that they've been expelled, I suspect they're in a more comfortable public school where they can be open in their relationship. In all likelihood, getting "caught" was a way out from under the religious school in the first place.

Yea, I think that's wrong. :\

I guess it was because it was a Lutheran school, I don't know, but I still say it's wrong that you prevent someone from getting an education because of the fact that they like the same gender. I guess that's why you don't see many homosexuals showing PDA anyway.

that so messed up how can they do that!

i think they had no right to do that to girls, i mean they r just like everyone else. Maybe some kids at the school didnt like it or probably a teacher. but they still shouldnt do that. There just girls showing there affection like any other teen would towards another.. Where like scared of other girls are going to do it too??

Luthran school does sound like a school that dont let u do many things that other pplz can. =/

It shouldn't matter what gender you love all that matter is that you love that person. and you should be kicked out for it. It's not right. Homosexuals have a right to be happy, and i support those rights. No person should be judged on what gender they like.

Well, I know a guy who's gotten expelled as a result of getting "too frisky", according to teachers =__=, with a girl in the hallway at a Catholic school,
therefore I can see the reason why the Lutheran school would have expelled the two girls.
It was unfair in my friend's situation, and especially unfair in theirs,
but there's rules. If you break 'em, you pay.
Now, if you're going against the rules and against the religion, it's the same result (just faster). ^^;;
Do I think this is fair? Not really.
But this is how private Lutheran schools work.

Listening to the story, to me, it sounds like it wasn't a
"They innocently kissed in the hall and a teacher saw, then the teacher freaked out so they got expelled!" type of deal.
It sounds more like:
"They were kissing in the hall, a teacher saw them, the principal pulled them to the side and warned them not to do it again, the girls didn't take them seriously, continued kissing in the halls, and therefore after having been warned; saw the consequences, which were, in this case, being expelled."
...
I may just be saying that because it happened to Dennis (my friend),
however in court, if it were any other situation, the girls would have been allowed back into the school.

So if I'm correct,
I think the girls should have thought through what they were doing.
It doesn't matter how stupid authorities can be at times,
listen to them if you want to stay out of trouble, because they're in charge.
If this happened because they didn't take the warnings seriously,
I think they probably learnt a valuable lesson
... much like Dennis ....

Key word is Lutheran. It's not a public school, they were there by choice, so they can be kicked out because the girls can go to another school. This might not win me many fans, but I don't see anything wrong with this situation. Lutherans are very strict on their veiws of homosexuality. If the girls wanted to stay in the school, they should have taken that into consideration. If that was the lifestyle you wished to lead, why would you want to stay in a school that doesn't support that choice anyway?

I'm... going to quietly agree with Junizul, Gavril, and Tut'ankhamun, on this one. If the situation had occurred in a public school, we'd be having another conversation.

Yeah, you can't be all shocked and horrified that religious people have conservative views.

Depending on the group, Lutherans can be extremely strict.

Its a Lutheran school... And although its idiotic... The two were kicked out for being 'affectionate'.

If they were striping each other in the middle of the hallway.... Maybe that would be alright... but i would probably give them ISS for a few days rather than allowing things to escalate... If it was a hug.... a kiss... I wouldn't care. This is saying that i was a principle...

Ya see.... They couldn't do anything because of the fact that many religions (as said before) including the Lutheran religion oppose homosexuality. And although it is idiotic, if you follow that religion you are expected to be straight.

What i would have done is place the two in a public school, sure, no PDA... but they can express their emotions... Although sadly judgement might be a bit much...

So yes... The world has gotten to idiotic points... Religion is a weapon for some... a lifestyle for others. And anything they hate... They will use that weapon against it. In this case, it was homosexuality.

I'm sure if it had be boy on girl affection they would have been kicked, too.

It's a Lutheran school. A private lutheran school. They can't have possibly thought that they could sue them for violating the rules. :/

For them, it's like if you tee-peed a hallway. You still broke the rules set by the system and you can be justly punished for that.

If you were gay, wouldn't being kicked out of an extremely strict conservative religious school be a good thing, anyways? They should have known better, tbh.

Originally Posted by Junizul

I'm sure if it had be boy on girl affection they would have been kicked, too.

It probably would have been less punishment... Maybe a suspension... Because homosexuality is more taboo. Although again 'showing affection' was slightly vague...

the severity of the punishment is based on the fact of how affectionate they were getting and if they are the same sex or not.

Originally Posted by Flower of the Battlefield

It probably would have been less punishment... Maybe a suspension... Because homosexuality is more taboo. Although again 'showing affection' was slightly vague...

the severity of the punishment is based on the fact of how affectionate they were getting and if they are the same sex or not.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. :/
My friend, Dennis, got expelled for the same reason
and he really wasn't getting all that out of hand
(from what I've heard)
Apparently the teacher's last straw was when he was switching gum by french-kissing his girlfriend.

But both Dennis and his girlfriend (who was from a different school) were pretty stupid because the principle had warned him beforehand. =__=
...
then again, we do need to remember that the teachers' hated Dennis,
and were probably looking for an opportunity to get rid of him. xD

Well... Homosexuality is generally (no matter how stupid that is) a taboo thing... Religious people would have a hay day if they had found out the pope was a homosexual... Or some high figure such as Gandi...

As for your friend Dennis.. Well... if the teachers hated him... AND they had warned him previously with the strictness of catholic schools... So he had it coming.

Again with the catholic school homosexuality... Well... I have no idea what the details were... but i suppose it would all be based on the mentality of the staff (anti-homo or pro-homo)

I think it was wrong of the school to expel them. I think they should have explained to them that at school it wasn't allowed. But the Lutheran religion can be stuck in the old ways sometimes. I think the different religions need to realize the world is changing. People are getting sex changes. Women love Women and Men love men.
And there isn't anything they can do about it. It's just the way things are now.

While I agree that the girls have a right to express their affections to whomever they wish, the school is private and religious in nature. I suspect that there is a code of conduct that may include no public displays of affection or homosexual activity, but I'm not certain of that. The question for me is whether or not the school accepts public funds from tax payers or not. If they do, then the state has a right to push anti-discriminatory rules on them.