Ok ,I Was watching an anime called death Note,And the Idea came to me,the main character who name is light is killing criminals to make the world a safer place,so do you think if the death note was a real object and it was in the hands of someone who would killing criminals,would this be good or bad? in your opinion.

Originally Posted by Flaregon

Ok ,I Was watching an anime called death Note,And the Idea came to me,the main character who name is light is killing criminals to make the world a safer place,so do you think if the death note was a real object and it was in the hands of someone who would killing criminals,would this be good or bad? in your opinion.

killing criminals?, dusent that just make him as bad as the criminal.

Originally Posted by shockwavev2

killing criminals?, dusent that just make him as bad as the criminal.

But he is doing it to make the would safer.That were it come to the Debate,Is the killing of criminals
*which lower crime,preventing more killing,rapes and other evil crime Form happening* a good or bad thing.

I've never seen/read Death Note. I'm assuming this character just finds criminals and kills them? Without a justice system?

No, I think 99% of criminals only warrant jail time. I don't think a vigilante going around and killing is making the world any safer--he's only creating more crime. I personally support the death penalty--but in extremely limited cases such as serial murders, rapists and sociopaths in general should they be caught before they kill/rape/maim several times. (This is where people go, "but if they haven't killed multiple times, how do you they are a sociopath?" Trust me. You know.)

They said it very well in the Batman comic-- as many criminals as Batman captures, his actions create just as many.

If you allow one person the right to kill at will, you should allow others to kill at will.

No. If the criminal is truly evil, a serial rapist/murderer or child molester or something, they deserve pain but not death...

there's no place in any world for vigilantes, people who take the law into their own hands have usually got a screw loose somewhere anyway.

it's sort of cool and heroic when it's in films or in comics, but that's only because it is fiction, if i found out a friend of mine was killing criminals i'd be scared!
How do they know if someone's a criminal? many innocents would die, or the killer would go completely off the rails, smoking people for double parking etc..

Originally Posted by Chemicat

No. If the criminal is truly evil, a serial rapist/murderer or child molester or something, they deserve pain but not death...

I a sure you that there are victims and the families of victims who would gladly disagree with you there Chemicat.

Originally Posted by stilettolover

I've never seen/read Death Note. I'm assuming this character just finds criminals and kills them? Without a justice system?

No actually he kills with a justice system... well kind of anyway. In I think volume one Raito, the main character. With the use of the death note, kills a man who was holding a pre-school hostage.

Originally Posted by stilettolover

They said it very well in the Batman comic-- as many criminals as Batman captures, his actions create just as many.

There is a difference in Batman the criminals know perfectly well that he would not kill them so there was not much at risk other than their freedom. But in death note the criminals know very well that they would be kill should they do something that Kira (Raito's alias.) considers a crime. I have watched many crime documentary and every time the polices tell the criminal that there was a probability they would get the death sentences they would being to telling the police everything they needed to know.

In my opinion what Raito/Kira is doing is not really that different from give someone the death sentences. The only flaw in Raito's logic is not everyone who is sent to jail is a criminal.

I believe thas something like a Kira would be bad. Sure, at first it'd seem like a great thing. Hey! Someone is finally killing all the horrible people in the world! There'll be no more bad-guys soon! =D

But, as said, there will ALWAYS be some jerk in the world. You can't get rid of them all. As long as we reproduce, there'll be some.

Also, a Kira would probably get lost in his own power & start killing people who are against him/her too. You don't want someone with that much power. It'll be like a Hitler, & do we want another devil-incarnate like him? OH GOD NO.

I read/ watch Death Note and it's freaking awsome! Woot! <3

Well anyways, I do think that it is wrong to do that. They deserve to suffer in jail. It's a good story line for a fiction book not real life.

I don't think it would be right cause the criminals that are being killed may not be criminals at all. The justice system in this world is not perfect and many innocent people do get wrongly accused. Also, the criminal was put in jail for a reason. If they were to die, they would have already :)

Originally Posted by stilettolover

I've never seen/read Death Note. I'm assuming this character just finds criminals and kills them? Without a justice system?

No, I think 99% of criminals only warrant jail time. I don't think a vigilante going around and killing is making the world any safer--he's only creating more crime. I personally support the death penalty--but in extremely limited cases such as serial murders, rapists and sociopaths in general should they be caught before they kill/rape/maim several times. (This is where people go, "but if they haven't killed multiple times, how do you they are a sociopath?" Trust me. You know.)

They said it very well in the Batman comic-- as many criminals as Batman captures, his actions create just as many.

If you allow one person the right to kill at will, you should allow others to kill at will.

i agree completely with everything that you said. (:

I want to say a won't use it but in truth I think I would namely to punish those that have done things enough to deserve it. Even if that makes me as bad as a criminal I'm just being truthful to myself.

Also Light wasn't just doing it as a purification, but he was bored. That's really an under lining theme in the manga

I own a death note. I made one, and it has a lot of names in it already. But I agree with the person that said that truly evil people deserve pain, not death. They should be cursed with eternal life, then be tortured for all eternity. There are fates worse than death, dear.

Originally Posted by Alexandrus Gambino

I own a death note. I made one, and it has a lot of names in it already. But I agree with the person that said that truly evil people deserve pain, not death. They should be cursed with eternal life, then be tortured for all eternity. There are fates worse than death, dear.

• I agree with you there.

Even some criminals would rather die that face a life sentence without possibility of parole. •

....Killing criminals or killing innocent people, it's still murder.

I mean....Maybe if they are in jail for doing something horrible, they should still get a chance to do the right thing, even if they chose to do the wrong thing the first time. It's still murder, no matter who you kill. Even if you have a good intention, you're still killing someone and that, in my eyes makes you the criminal yourself.

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L is justice. <333

Originally Posted by Noodles

....Killing criminals or killing innocent people, it's still murder.

I mean....Maybe if they are in jail for doing something horrible, they should still get a chance to do the right thing, even if they chose to do the wrong thing the first time. It's still murder, no matter who you kill. Even if you have a good intention, you're still killing someone and that, in my eyes makes you the criminal yourself.

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L is justice. <333

*Spoiler Warning* Don't read if you haven't seen the manga or have seen the newest ep of death note.



Well as the story advances L dies and 2 kid who don't play by the law take over to catch him.They have already kid napped people.Woulds there action be justified to catch light who is *kira* or would you condem their actions as it's is the only way for them to catch *kira* ?

There will always be someone who loves the criminal, whether it be their mother or daughter or brother or best friend... there will always be someone to lose if you take that person away.

I don't think a "real" death note would be good at all.

Originally Posted by Sandra

• I agree with you there.

Even some criminals would rather die that face a life sentence without possibility of parole. •

*nods vigorously* I remember when I was younger my Mom and I had this debate, and she had the perfect solution: Put them to work. All those jobs no one wants to do, all those jobs which are risky, give to the criminals. Make them give back to society and work. It's enough that we house (I realise that's a loosly used word here) and feed and clothe them, and it's all of our tax money that's going to the support of people who have chosen through their actions to forfeit the rights and privileges regular citizens have. So make them work to earn those things the rest of us work so hard every day to obtain.

After awhile the death note powers corrupted him though he started to do bad things, remember? At least in the movie, I don't think killing all criminals is a good idea, but if they are willing to take a life outside of self defense, I think their life should be taken.

Though I do not enjoy the thought of such an item in the hands of another in reality, and would for the most part object from the use of it, there could be a benefit from it as well.
Without the public knowledge of such an item most would interperate it as the "will of god" upon those who sinned. This could greatly decrease crime, pain, and suffering for the masses, if held in good hands. Who had good hands, that is another debate entirely. Machiavelli would have agreed with the use of such an item for ruling the masses, and his way of leadership, as distasteful as may it be is often the most effective as much as some might wish otherwise. I honestly think in the right hands it could be put to great use, and better the human existance for many, however trying to maintain the mental stability of the individual with it comes with a great risk. However what goes through the men and women who hold the keys to nuclear weapons, or biological weapons, similar degree of power, yet fact rather than fiction.

I've read the entire thing, and for those of you who have also read it, and even for those that have not, Yagami goes completely insane with his power. He'll do anything and everything to keep others out of his way, and he thinks of himself as more of a God than a human being.

I think that anyone that would be in possession of such a thing as a Death Note, of whom would actually have it in their mind that they'll get rid of all the scum, the filth of the Earth, would go corrupt with said power after a certain amount of time. I'm sure that everyone has an enemy, everyone has someone who they absolutely despise, and even though that person may not necessarily be "bad", per-say, they could be killed without hesitation just a month or so after the person comes in possession of the note. In the manga, at the start, Yagami hesitates in killing people. He hesitates because he still feels the humanity, and he still feels the guilt of knowing the people die by his own hand, his own doing. But as the series progresses, he becomes absolutely inhuman about the entire thing, killing people without the blink of an eye or a second thought. And any person could become like that. If you start killing people, even if you may flinch at first... it may become a habit, tedious and just yet another thing you do during your normal day. It would become like squashing a bug that you hate, or just as simple as watching television. And that's why it wouldn't be a good idea.

Anyone who becomes a vigilante in such a way as that can become corrupt over time... it just depends on how long exactly the time period passes when they stop flinching and caring about the work that they're doing.

ARGG
NEED.
BOOKS 7-12. *PANTPANTPANT*

anyway, lets give some credit to Kira. His intention was not to eradicate all of the criminals and bad people at first. He just wanted to create a more peaceful society and punish those who got away from punishment from the police. Some criminals get away with punishment you see, so Kira thought, "goodbye to you", (since his deathnote is not for torturing people, but killing them). But people with money and power go wrong in the head at some point.

But yeah I agree wit some of you, torture would be better than a death penalty. But this won't necessarily lower crime rates. The media reports the death of people, criminals maybe. But they wont report criminals being tortured =/
Those who are tortured dont get a chance to tell the world the consequences he got for being bad either.

I thought that Death Note had a great concept. But killing criminals does not make you any better than they were. ):

Originally Posted by Sandra

• I agree with you there.

Even some criminals would rather die that face a life sentence without possibility of parole. •

I agree completely. Pain can be worse than death. personally, I'd rather die than spend the remainder of my life in jail.

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  Light is a vigilante.
  Taking the law into your own hands is against the law, regardless if it's for what one might call a 'just cause'.
  
  You have to realize, everyone has their own personal opinion in what's right and what's wrong, so it's best not to make decisions like that.
  
  p.s
  I love that anime! Squeeeee. Are you reading the manga or watching the anime?