After surfing the web and discussing it with other gamers, I have come to the conclusion just how much I dislike Square Enix. Their games just keep flopping as of late, FF XIV flopped majorly. FF XIII, I know there are fans out there here, and I like it somewhat, but I really think the game could have been so much better. The sequel I cannot comment on since I have not played. Versus XIII I think will be this companies only redeeming game, if it actually is good. Kingdom Hearts 3 has disappeared into a nexus. They already have plans for FF XV and is in development! (I believe there is already a trailer of the beginning movie for FF XV) I seriously think they have gotten too far ahead of themselves.

FF VII Remake for PS3

Ok, this has been a rumor for years after the demo tech. Fans were riled up for years and some people still have hope. Some people think, let it rest. I have heard all of my RPG friends say that don't have a PS3 that if a remake did come they would buy a PS3 just to play it. Square Enix publically came out and said they would not make it until they made a game that would top it in every way. I hate to say this but that hasn't happened yet. Maybe graphics and sound have come a long way, but there is an element that is missing that Squaresoft had in their games that Square Enix just lacks majorly. To finish this thought, FF VII will never be remade just because if they stick to what they said it will never happen because they are incompetant of making a better game. When I say better, I'm not talking about just graphics, music, and playability-- but the ability to draw the player in and invest them in it.

Chrono Trigger & Chrono Trigger Ressurection

Take Chrono Trigger for example, just the nostalgic music, unforgetable characters, the various endings. So much that was able to be done. The combination attacks! The game brought tears to my eyes as a 15 year old. My friends and I talk about it to this day. Then of course once Squaresoft became Square Enix, the quality in the game to pull in its audience began to diminish. Fans took it upon themselves to remake Chrono Trigger give this old title that carried so much nostalgia life once again. I understand the business aspect of it, but they completely shut these people down with threat of legal action. They could have worked with them to recognize these talented programmers and artists-- but the resentful and jealous Square Enix shut them down I think more for the reason that these people made them look really lazy as not long back they re- released it on the DS Nintendo. I refused to buy it of course-- I have an orginal for the SNES and PS1. My word to square enix is but one --- PATHETIC!


I finish this thought with this, I guess in the world of games, making money is the bottom line these days, crank em in and crank them out, and a lot of games it shows. Companies could learn a lot from their fans just by simply listening to them.

Gah, I totally agree! I wish they would remake Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VII!!! But that's "too much work"!

The games nowadays don't really seem to have as good story, or characters as the old games did! Maybe it's just cause I was a kid then and those games were top of the line, but I hold to that. My nephews hate the older games cause "the graphics suck" Look here kiddos it ain't about these here newfangled graphics, it's story it's characters and replayability! Chrono Trigger came out, how many years ago now? But it's still amazing, and I still play it from time to time! I agree with you that it seems like it's all about the money!

Some companies do still try, and they do take input from fans, but not enough of them do this! It does show quite a bit, but sometimes it can be overlooked. Square Enix/ Soft, has always been one of my favorite video game companies, and is sad that instead of allow a remake, or do a remake of a game that would sell like hot cakes, they push out 50 new titles that no one wants to play because they're all seemingly generic crap. I could be wrong, I've never played through the new FF games, but from I did play, I didn't really care for, and have friends who did play them, and didn't like them at all.

Le sigh, maybe we could get a petition going for them to remake good games instead of pushing out what they're doing now? lol

Final Fantasy VII would benefit from a tiny facelift. To be completely honest I still find the game very playable. The prerendered backgrounds are still beautiful, and of course lego-lookin' Cloud doing the squats would be very strange if VII was redone in a style similar to say.. XIII. And Kole you are right, if they remade VII with the talent they had right now, it would be missing something, which I think is the charm of the original game.
I am almost 100% certain that the only thing that would convince Square to remake VII is if they were on the verge of dying. It would be just like the release of the original FF.
I knew a guy in high school who loved VII and all the spinoffs and shit but never played the original game cause OMG GRAPHIX SUX and I wish I could hate him to death..

It is unfortunate that that CT remake got shut down as hard as it did. I think the original is fine the way it is, but the guys doing the remake weren't even going to charge money for it so when Square does do an actual remaster of the game it better be damn near perfect or I ain't goin' near that shit. It's not right that Square charges money for something like that when other people could possibly do a much better job for free and they do it out of love for the franchise.

I actually enjoy "most" of the recent games that Square has released/published. Except for new the new Kingdom Hearts and the stupid XIII fabula crystal nova bullshit. It is amusing to see Square still making a Lightning game even after the negative reception of XIII and XIII-2.

And why the HELL would they spread out Kingdom Hearts across like, 5 different gaming platforms? That is just fucked up. I think the whole story has gotten to stupid levels of convoluted but they need to show some fucking respect for their fanbase and don't make them buy every damn console on the market just so they can enjoy the franchise.

Originally Posted by CrossHatch

Gah, I totally agree! I wish they would remake Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy VII!!! But that's "too much work"!

The games nowadays don't really seem to have as good story, or characters as the old games did! Maybe its just cause I was a kid then and those games were top of the line, but I hold to that. My nephews hate the older games cause "the graphics suck" Look here kiddos it ain't about these here newfangled graphics, it's story it's characters and replayability! Chrono Trigger came out, how many years ago now? But it's still amazing, and I still play it from time to time! I agree with you that it seems like it's all about the money!

Some companies do still try, and they do take input from fans, but not enough of them do this! It does show quite a bit, but sometimes it can be overlooked. Square Enix/ Soft, has always been one of my favorite video game companies, and is sad that instead of allow a remake, or do a remake of a game that would sell like hot cakes, they push out 50 new titles that no one wants to play because they're all seemingly generic crap. I could be wrong, I've never played through the new FF games, but from I did play, I didn't really care for, and have friends who did play them, and didn't like them at all.

Le sigh, maybe we could get a petition going for them to remake good games instead of pushing out what they're doing now? lol

A remake for FF VII would be awesome and yes it would be a lot of work, but if they do it right the end result would be extremely favorable as now there is a new generation that would appreciate as well as the generation who enjoyed it so many years ago.

That's the problem with Square Enix, most of their ideas are only half baked and suits and ties are probably running the company and all the creativity that was once the cream of the top has run dry in my opinion. The only game I care to see is how Final Fantasy XIII Versus will look and play when it finally comes out.

Many tried to get a petition for remake of certain games but Square Enix doesn't care about its fans and it shows.

@ Risque - I like old graphics as they can be fun and the old Final Fantasy VII still has replay value to it, it still has it's charm to me, but still would love to see a remake perhaps maybe add extra content while not disturbing the integrity of the game.

As far as the Chrono Trigger remake they did not long ago on the DS, while the game itself is not bad but the fact they retained the same graphics and just added some slight content shows that they are just plain lazy trying to wring a wet rag dry. Again, signs of suit and ties... I refused to buy it since I basically had it on the PS1, I mean why would I buy another "slightly" altered copy? Yes, if they remake it, it'd better be damned perfect I agree or I'm sending them a you suck letter personally signed by me.

The only game that I liked recently were the Dragon Quest games... other than that the others have just been mediocre... nothing to write home about--in my opinion. Yes, thirteen is just mediocre too... not really all that great and doesn't allow exploration until the end which is retarded and unlike previous games.

Kingdom Hearts, I gave up on the series after the I saw how many spin offs they made after the first rumors of KH 3 was spoken of and has not been mentioned in years... so much for that idea.

Bottom line-- Square Enix is basically just riding the coat tails of its former glory and eventually the well will run completely dry.

They announce that they would never even attempt or have any plans to make a Final Fantasy VII remake nor even a remaster version of the of the game. They feel as though if they did they would get huge backlash and don't feel they can make such a feat that would make the game how it was in the past.

However they are making a remastered Final Fantasy X, which I am really excited about. Which is rumored to be released on Vita next year, or the PlayStation 4 in 2015.

But what ever the case is, I agree that Square Enix is losing it's touch as the great JRPG empire that it once was. Releasing memorable titles such as Final Fantasy VII and Xenogears is but a thing in the past for them. The direction of the company right now, buying out game companies and producing WRPG is the new trend I'm seeing by them instead of focusing on developing great games is slowly losing them loyal fan of the franchise.

I can see Square Enix become just a publisher and no longer a actual game company in the near future if Final Fantasy XV doesn't win fan back in 2016.

Originally Posted by Keeg

They announce that they would never even attempt or have any plans to make a Final Fantasy VII remake nor even a remaster version of the of the game. They feel as though if they did they would get huge backlash and don't feel they can make such a feat that would make the game how it was in the past.

However they are making a remastered Final Fantasy X, which I am really excited about. Which is rumored to be released on Vita next year, or the PlayStation 4 in 2015.

But what ever the case is, I agree that Square Enix is losing it's touch as the great JRPG empire that it once was. Releasing memorable titles such as Final Fantasy VII and Xenogears is but a thing in the past for them. The direction of the company right now, buying out game companies and producing WRPG is the new trend I'm seeing by them instead of focusing on developing great games is slowly losing them loyal fan of the franchise.

I can see Square Enix become just a publisher and no longer a actual game company in the near future if Final Fantasy XV doesn't win fan back in 2016.

I read in one article that they said it wouldn't happen until they made a much better game that outsold the original FF VII, which I guess you could say your right in the sense because that will never happen. I've already lost faith in the series, I'm already hearing complaints about FF XIII Part 3 and it hasn't even come out yet! If they stick to the storyline and keep it the same only with better graphics, voice acting, and slightly better battle interface without changing the integrity of it, they can do it successfully and maybe through in a little extra content without altering the story.

So they are remaking FF X? I never go to the end of that one, although many of my friends are huge fans of FF X. Yes Xenogears was awesome, I would love to see that game remade but like FF VII it was an epic one which I think they have the same idea, especially since I saw Xenoblades? I haven't tried it, I played Xenosaga I but wasn't too impressed.

I see Square Enix diminishing into a publishing company completely almost going back into the shadows. Another company will come along eventually but I'm still waiting and watching, hoping we get a good old fashioned RPG without it being online like Dragon Quest X. I think the game looks good but having to put it online to me means it's going to just be a money magnet. If I'm going to buy a Wii-U and buy the game I don't want to have to continually pay an overpriced subscription fee. I may try it but usually games like that I get bored of fairly quickly. So I usually go to the free-to-play when the urge hits.

Originally Posted by Kole_Locke

I read in one article that they said it wouldn't happen until they made a much better game that outsold the original FF VII, which I guess you could say your right in the sense because that will never happen. I've already lost faith in the series, I'm already hearing complaints about FF XIII Part 3 and it hasn't even come out yet! If they stick to the storyline and keep it the same only with better graphics, voice acting, and slightly better battle interface without changing the integrity of it, they can do it successfully and maybe through in a little extra content without altering the story.

So they are remaking FF X? I never go to the end of that one, although many of my friends are huge fans of FF X. Yes Xenogears was awesome, I would love to see that game remade but like FF VII it was an epic one which I think they have the same idea, especially since I saw Xenoblades? I haven't tried it, I played Xenosaga I but wasn't too impressed.

I see Square Enix diminishing into a publishing company completely almost going back into the shadows. Another company will come along eventually but I'm still waiting and watching, hoping we get a good old fashioned RPG without it being online like Dragon Quest X. I think the game looks good but having to put it online to me means it's going to just be a money magnet. If I'm going to buy a Wii-U and buy the game I don't want to have to continually pay an overpriced subscription fee. I may try it but usually games like that I get bored of fairly quickly. So I usually go to the free-to-play when the urge hits.

I honestly didn't see the point of a part 3 for the Final Fantasy XIII series. Part 2 was honestly not even needed in my opinion.
*SPOILER HIGHLIGHT TO SEE* ->The death of Sarah was really not even needed.

You really should give Final Fantasy X a chance. It's one of Square Soft's finer works before becoming Square Enix. XenoSaga was okay. It wasn't as good as Xenogears because only about 3 people from Xenogears actually participated in XenoSaga.

I'm looking into investing in a Playstation 4 because but probably end up buying the Xbox720 because the controller is just so hand friendly.

Originally Posted by Keeg

I honestly didn't see the point of a part 3 for the Final Fantasy XIII series. Part 2 was honestly not even needed in my opinion.
*SPOILER HIGHLIGHT TO SEE* ->The death of Sarah was really not even needed.

You really should give Final Fantasy X a chance. It's one of Square Soft's finer works before becoming Square Enix. XenoSaga was okay. It wasn't as good as Xenogears because only about 3 people from Xenogears actually participated in XenoSaga.

I'm looking into investing in a Playstation 4 because but probably end up buying the Xbox720 because the controller is just so hand friendly.

I still haven't finished FF XIII yet, I'm just doing side quests right now trying to get strong. The grid system always messed with me in FF X, but I can see how it would be good, I may go back and play it through as I still have a copy of it. I eventually want a copy of F X part 2,

Xenogears was a really epic game, I played through it twice and thinking about doing it again now that we're talking about it lol. I got halfway through the first Xenosaga game, it wasn't bad but I didn't think it really kept me glued to the television screen grinding and playing so to speak. I do like the Star Ocean series... Star Ocean 1 and 2 are great, I never finished three... because I lost my copy of it for some dumb reason for the first disc. Then I got the forth one which is Star Ocean Late something... anyway I'm at the end almost but it takes forever to get to the final boss... so that's the only thing holding me up and my friends have warned me to get all in my party at level eighty or higher because the boss is just so sickeningly annoying to beat.

Traditional JRPG lol... I will stick with PS4 Just because that's the system I like. Xbox 720 should be really good but who knows... the Wii U was just a fad... my friends who work at gamestop tell me that it was really nothing to write home about... yes it was a notch or a notch and a half up from the Wii but not too much better really other than its easier to access online with it I think.

I have to say I lost interest in Square when they made FFX. I did not like that game nor the second one. Just because plot and game play were to simple and not at all challenging. I also was angry at Square when they announced Project X for xenogears fans.... It turned out to be the title for the FFX project.... Then they told Monolithsoft they could not make Xenosaga into Xenogear's prequil.

Now you say what about the newer stuff Square has made. Sadly I have never had money to spare on games since I got out of high school. Haha life just hasn't been cushy for me I never have spare dollars to buy fun things.

I do worry about remakes of epic games. If it is done it could harm the old games. Never polish a gem or it could break that is my way of thinking.

Originally Posted by MinakoAxule

I have to say I lost interest in Square when they made FFX. I did not like that game nor the second one. Just because plot and game play were to simple and not at all challenging. I also was angry at Square when they announced Project X for xenogears fans.... It turned out to be the title for the FFX project.... Then they told Monolithsoft they could not make Xenosaga into Xenogear's prequil.

Now you say what about the newer stuff Square has made. Sadly I have never had money to spare on games since I got out of high school. Haha life just hasn't been cushy for me I never have spare dollars to buy fun things.

I do worry about remakes of epic games. If it is done it could harm the old games. Never polish a gem or it could break that is my way of thinking.

Well I only disagree with you on one thing. A remake on Final Fantasy VII would be awesome... and if they did manage to somehow mess it up we still have the original is my way of looking at it. It's on them if it flops, not us. I personally don't think Square Enix will last very long if Final Fantasy XIV flops again. I heard they put a lot of money into trying to make it much better than their last attempt.

I never really got into Final Fantasy X myself so I can definitely relate to you there but I did like Final Fantasy XII even though it was a bit different.

I never got to play beyond FF X-2 after that I moved in with my step mom and she through out all my video game and anime and banned me from getting any more... She thinks they are products of the devil. Now I just have no money to buy such things.

Originally Posted by MinakoAxule

I never got to play beyond FF X-2 after that I moved in with my step mom and she through out all my video game and anime and banned me from getting any more... She thinks they are products of the devil. Now I just have no money to buy such things.

Ugh! Now that is just sad! I hate to hear that. No parent should do that to a child. I'm not saying you're a child or anything but that is just silly.

Originally Posted by Kole_Locke

Ugh! Now that is just sad! I hate to hear that. No parent should do that to a child. I'm not saying you're a child or anything but that is just silly.

Funny thing is my real mom supported my like for video games and anime. It was heart wrenching to move to a home that banned things like that.

Originally Posted by MinakoAxule

Funny thing is my real mom supported my like for video games and anime. It was heart wrenching to move to a home that banned things like that.

I cant stand that kind of restricted living. As a thirty-four year old I would not tolerate it.

I just thought i'd put in my two cents. i don't really pay much attention to companies when I buy games, but on the topic of the Final Fantasy series...I have to say that while the graphics are beautiful in XIII, the gameplay is honestly a bore. the first game was pretty much a movie and just mashing one button, and then the second game was pretty much the same, though there was the added having to use the characters I found the most annoying to play through the game.

I won't hold it against the company about the characters since that's a personal preference, but the gameplay just really sucks >.> And when i heard they were making a part three... i think they've overdone it. Lightning was a great character, she has a good design, but they've overdone her story at this point.

If they somehow screw up Versus XIII, I don't know if they'll be able to come back from that unless they can pull a new title out of their uhm...yea...and have it be something absolutely brilliant. I kinda wish the preview they had at Comic-con last year for some software they were using to design games had actually been a concept for a game, it looked pretty cool.

I do believe Square is a dying gaming giant.... They just get worse each year and I see nothing that is going to save them lately. I might be wrong but that's what it looks like to me.

Originally Posted by Aoi Kazuya

I just thought i'd put in my two cents. i don't really pay much attention to companies when I buy games, but on the topic of the Final Fantasy series...I have to say that while the graphics are beautiful in XIII, the gameplay is honestly a bore. the first game was pretty much a movie and just mashing one button, and then the second game was pretty much the same, though there was the added having to use the characters I found the most annoying to play through the game.

I won't hold it against the company about the characters since that's a personal preference, but the gameplay just really sucks >.> And when i heard they were making a part three... i think they've overdone it. Lightning was a great character, she has a good design, but they've overdone her story at this point.

If they somehow screw up Versus XIII, I don't know if they'll be able to come back from that unless they can pull a new title out of their uhm...yea...and have it be something absolutely brilliant. I kinda wish the preview they had at Comic-con last year for some software they were using to design games had actually been a concept for a game, it looked pretty cool.

The graphics are good and the stories are usually mildly interesting... but the game play lacks severely as the game is too linear and not enough side quests until the very end. You are almost totally overwhelmed with it when you can just beat the game and quickly go to the end. They should have had costume changes and other features.

Part three seems a bit too much like you said. They have a trailer already online for Final Fantasy XV which to me they are spreading themselves thin. I think Final Fantasy XIII Versus may be their final chance ... otherwise A remake of FF VII may be their last hope. FF XIV looks like it will flop once again.

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@Minoakule - Yes the game giant is coming very close to their true FINAL fantasy.