Or did Roliana just copy last months spirit of the phoenix mc item with their Rilao the Phoenix that they have this week.

This looks like our menewsha's mc http://www.roliana.com/images/mi-bg.png I think they are doing something fishy.

link?

Opps sorry about that. adds. :)

...i don't realy think so they might have same the them. but whe don't even have backwings..
but even then are phoenix is more red then his blue orange red thing

I think they took the idea and made it match with their things. Seems too suspicious to me. (but I'm suspicious about the metal things in your dvd cases I have a weird feeling I'm being tracked by them.) I do realize the last bit is illogical.

Im sure its just bad timing on their behalf :) no one actually 'owns' the idea of a phoenix anyway ^^

With their timing it just seems a bit odd to me. I know no one owns the idea, it just seems wrong to me.

Didn't another site have a phoenix the same month as us as well? XD I guess everyone is thinking on the idea of rebirth this year. <3

Well, Roliana decided that the Phoenix would be their mascot since January, I think. (IT says it in the announcement at any rate). Plus it's not like we own the Phoenix idea anyway, like someone else mentioned Cruinne also released a Phoenix item and has it as their mascot as well as Roliana.

They probably did exactly the same as we've done in previous months.

We got nicely ahead with CI planning one time, then Gaia went and brought a very similar item out for their MCs of that month, so we had to scrap whatever that idea was and start again (I'm not telling you what the item was ;) )Because accusations of item theft get a bit tedious after a while, and if we'd released something a month after Gaia did..well, we'd get exactly what's being said in here.

We get accused of copying when we bring out a cloak or slippers because someone else had a cloak or slippers first, even if it's only vaguely similar (or not similar at all)..but there's only a finite amount of items on this planet, and there's only so many that are suitable for contribution items, all avatar sites are going to end up making use of the best ones, if they know what's good for them anyway. Because it makes sense as the users like these items, and because of that the site benefits financially, and financial benefits are used to create new features for the users..winners all round.

The fact that Roli's announcement states that this concept came about in January amuses me a little, they're probably fully aware that some people will be all "ZOMG!! U copied Menewsha!!!1!!. So they're covering themselves.
But I doubt very much that they did, it's just the way these things work, it's frustrating to have to keep ditching ideas because another site just brought out something similar, especially if you know an item is likely to be popular, despite some saying it was copied, then it's easier to just get it out there anyway. Than have the soul-destroying task of having to start from scratch with something else on a very short deadline. Especially if all the art has already been done.

Really, there's just too many avatar sites for these similarities to not crop up now and again, it's just one of those things :yes:

themes may be the same but i don't care. in the end i wanne hang around here
*plus i don't see any screaming whe stole the wing ankets idee from gaia
*plus its something the god pan had on its feets
*hens the discription when released.
you get the same things in faishon world
books your reading
and gods now what.
but jeaj maby the stole the theme :)

Ah, yeah, when i was on gaia i started noticing barely any similarities on this site and gaia. And at one point i believed that the two went hand in hand with one another, but as soon as i became a member of Menewsha, i learned out pretty quick that they dont lol but it's a good learning experience.

(*shrugs*) Similarities are okay I'd think.
As jellysundae said, there's bound to be similar items
due to the fact there's only so much of items you can make
that have already been taken by other sites, so you might as well just be like,
"Okay, they have this and we can have that, but that doesn't mean we can't have anything similar." XDD;; It's not like we or Gaia, or any avatar site was
the FIRST EVER to make anything like that. There's been things out there
with the same ideas, so people all just adapt from then. It's different
from copying, no matter how unfair or w/e it seems. XD That's also whys
theres such similar stories in those famous books, like Harry Potter.
You've heard of all those creatures before, so it's not like if you
also make a witch/wizard academy story, their going to sue you. There's
alot of ideas very similar. it's just based on the majority who actually favor them.

Hmmm, I have no clue, as I don't play on Roliana! Ah well... I'm sure it's nothing.

As far as I am concerned it is probably something that wasn't ment to happen, but did anyway. It is silly but it seems that many people are doing the same sets as us or gaia, it is cause there is a finite number of awesome wing like creatures that exist in the world and not in the world.

Originally Posted by jellysundae

The fact that Roli's announcement states that this concept came about in January amuses me a little, they're probably fully aware that some people will be all "ZOMG!! U copied Menewsha!!!1!!. So they're covering themselves.
But I doubt very much that they did, it's just the way these things work, it's frustrating to have to keep ditching ideas because another site just brought out something similar, especially if you know an item is likely to be popular, despite some saying it was copied, then it's easier to just get it out there anyway. Than have the soul-destroying task of having to start from scratch with something else on a very short deadline. Especially if all the art has already been done.

Actually, I really don't think that they're just saying that to cover themselves xD
There was a contest to design Roliana a mascot back in January, and the winners were posted in February. As you can see, Roliana has had their phoenix design for months before Menewsha released the Spirit of the Phoenix, they only decided to release these Phoenix items now, in July, since it's Roliana's birthday month. (This was stated in some Roliana Discussion thread... forget where exactly)
So, if anything, though I'm not saying that was the case, Menewsha should be the ones being accused of stealing Roliana's phoenix design.

I'm not implying that they are in that respect, Creps :)
More that, putting that in the announcement would hopefully stop people from jumping on the "you copied..." bandwagon. A reminder more than anything I suppose.

Though having said that, some people will roll out the copycat accusation at the drop of a hat anyway, but it does tend to be people who aren't as aware as they could be of how forums work in general. As an example I'll use the people who go around other sites accusing them of "stealing" Gaia's emotes..you see them on every forum you go on, and on each one people patiently explain that no, no-one's stolen anything, those are default forum emotes..but a few weeks later another newbie will pop up and say exactly the same thing..

Ohh... sorry, I misunderstood your post :sweat:

As for the emote copying accusations, comes with the territory I guess xD;
Is that why you decided to make custom emotes? Or just because? xD

We made custom ones because we wanted lots of choice :XD
But I have to say, not having anyone accusing us of stealing Gaia's any more was very much an added bonus!

custom graphics are always better than default ;) sparks individuality between sites and gives us our own feel

<.< no pointing out that not all of them are custom tho, lol, one day they will...

It was decided that Rilao would be the mascot a long while ago. It was the result of a "Design our Mascot!" Contest. So really, it was the users who designed it. The pixel artists just made the item. n _n The timing as just off, was all.
Err, as CrepsleyKabob already said. > _>;

consider the time it takes to create a Monthly item...it usually takes a month lol

at times you can see upcoming MCs ideas, when someone post pictures of Gaia at a Convention. that and sometimes pixelers spill the beans about it to Users and then it just spreads all over the site ^_^

there are only so many things to think of. common sense Theme "Angels, Demons, Black, White, Wings" blah blah

i remember someone from Roli tried to make a "Point" in SF about how Gaia supposed took their idea for a Drumset *rolls eyes* just freakin stupid. even 4 Leaf (a Korean site) had a drum set long before Roli, i mean wow

get off the high horse.

It's a phoenix. Mene developers are not the first people to realize the existence of a phoenix.

Plus, if you look through all these avi sites they all have recurring items. Most sites have horns somewhere, and headwings, and slippers of some sort...
I doubt they copied us, it's just a coincidence.

People should stop with the whole 'OMFG U COPIED X SITE!1!11!!!" because it's a bit frustrating, to be honest.

i don't know but...i thought that design was picked in a contest? o-o

The idea of a phoenix is hardly original.
Waja's (Virtual Pet Site) had a Phoenix set of items months ago.
Anitaria (avi site) has Wings Of The Pheonix item. eCritters has had a pet Phoenix looking creature (Nyrial) for years.
Unless the item's an exact clone of another it's not really copying.