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Vanosa
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07-25-2007, 07:22 PM
I posted these on gaia and got a huge critique from them all but no one would explain anything except they are too muscular, this post isnt to show off my work so pls dont move it Im asking for help. First I would love some help from anyone that can point me in the right direction to some free anime drawing manuals that dont use circles and lines to make the face lol I have tried those and they dont work for me. Second I wanted to learn how to shade my drawings, I tried on the first one listed but I dont know if I did a good job or if its all wrong. Any help would be appreciated!
My Newest Drawing
2nd Drawing
This one was my first anime drawing
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Vanosa
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07-25-2007, 07:24 PM
oh also they said I had a great style but I dont know what they are talking about lol
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07-25-2007, 07:29 PM
Maybe they are taking about your masculines, muscles, hard girl style? lol
Wait. I'm gona try to help you. Which will be long to write.
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07-25-2007, 07:33 PM
I know you did some shading on the first one. But even then it's not aperente. You can look in my shop to see what big shading is, cause I'm a big fun of shading.
To shad:
-exemple, if you are to shade the skin. What I do is use the regulaire skin color first to do the basic color. Then add shades. In a sort of form light pressing to harder pressing. I use a dark skin color en the most dark part, brow. Because I put pressure on the color pencil gradually. it give a short of from going light to more dark tained color.
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Vanosa
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07-25-2007, 07:42 PM
wow yeah thats what im talking about yours is amazing! The problem is Im not sure where it should be dark and where it should be light lol
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07-25-2007, 07:44 PM
For the first one, the shoulders are a not big enough, but with the other 2 is ok.
Now to the all problem, in my opinion the distance between the eyes are not wide enough. Usually it's 1 eye between the eyes. or more in other manga style (but not my style). the position of the nose and mouth are good. And your cheast, abomdon lines are great.
The problem are your arms. They are too muscular. She's a girl, try to give her curves. Usually girl don't have big muscles or just no muscles at all. So the arms are usually just straite instead of curves. And there is the probleme of the erea under the boobs at the 2 sides. those 2 lines are not sepose to continue form the topper part. They are sepose to start under the boobs or just the curve should face inside instead of outside. And more hips for the first one.
And for hair try to make it with more detail, more curls.
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07-25-2007, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Vanosa
wow yeah thats what im talking about yours is amazing! The problem is Im not sure where it should be dark and where it should be light lol
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ok, try to imagine that you are the person that you are drawing. And try to place where the light hit's you.
Exemple: for the first one. Let's just say that the light is on top in front of the girl. Then you would have her hair in light.
Under the face, where the neck is, there will be shades. Cause the light come from the top and hit the head with will make a shade with what is under.
The light traval in strait line so try to think where it will go and where it will be blocked.
After I would shade the place under the boobs. A little inside the curves. under the arms.
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Vanosa
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07-25-2007, 10:16 PM
ok how about the hair? how do I make it look all glossy?
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07-26-2007, 01:15 AM
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crystal_wings6
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07-26-2007, 01:26 AM
Way better already. I will just correct 2 more things. *Going to use paint*
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07-26-2007, 01:43 AM
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07-26-2007, 01:52 AM
The first probleme is that the shoulder, it's good that they are widder. But there is also that they need to be more squire like. Even just looks at your avi and look at there shoulders.
The second thing is that your arms are a little out of porportion. THe arm usually is 2 heads. so mesure with that. And the hands. Can't be helped, I know it's difficult. They are just too small.
And for the second image. I put black line to show where the shades should be (and I think I forgot to put some under the breaths). It's getting good already, but they need more place. don't place then just around the edge, we don't see then that much.
And add more shades in the hair. The hair around the neck is usually the ones that is the most inside. Now to creat that illusion, you need to put a LOT of shades in that erea. And a LOT of shades on the upper part of the neck.
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07-26-2007, 01:53 AM
Oh, I forgot. Your girl's sides. They need to be curled in not out. Like What I did in red.
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Vanosa
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07-26-2007, 02:07 AM
Thx so much for helping me out :D Thats awesome how you did the stuff with paint, I never knew you could use straight lines to make the arms more proportional. I learned a lot here hehe :) Shading is prob gonna take me a while, but I think Im gonna catch on to manga pretty quickly I mean the one drawing I did, first listed on this post, was just yesterday, the one I just posted I did today so if there was a huge difference then, I prob will do a lot better with the tips you gave me :) I prob wont draw anymore tonight but plz check back and look over what I post to help me fix it :) I would really appreciate if you could. Let me know :) and again Thx sooo much :)
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Vanosa
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07-26-2007, 02:10 AM
oh and to let you know hands are prob my biggest problem with drawing ppl lol, let me set up a thing tho and Ill show you my drawings of non ppl and then post it here
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07-26-2007, 02:14 AM
I will alway be at the art discussion section to help. ^^
And your welcome.
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Vanosa
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07-26-2007, 02:24 AM
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Vanosa
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07-27-2007, 03:40 PM
Ok I did this one today, I think its a lot better but still looks somewhat the same lol. I did a different color theme, its an elven mage, but I still did the skimpy outfit to show more of the body structure.
yes I know I shouldnt use lined paper but I dont have any blank paper atm lol, Also I messed up on her hand when I outlined it I moved her fingers over so they are coming out of the center of her staff lol
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Vanosa
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07-28-2007, 04:30 AM
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crystal_wings6
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07-28-2007, 05:59 PM
Correction coming soon and please stop posting the same pic in different size one is ok. I can see all the details. No need for resize.
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07-28-2007, 06:16 PM
For the first one, the right eye need to be more bigger. The top of the head more. The arm is a little out of proportion and the stike is too big, her hand is not really holding it.
FOr the second one, the side of the face is not full enough. She's too short, normally we are around 7 to 8 heads.
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Caeluma
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07-28-2007, 10:57 PM
they are pretty cool
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07-29-2007, 08:20 PM
First things first it does look anime style although the face looks like a adult male face (which i like to put from 16+ )
anouther thing about the muscle thing is because of the arms, for now dont try and add arm detail till later on and when your truly ready it ont work otherwise, i used to attemtp it but it dident work out, but now i do because stuff has gotten to look stiff for me..
the hips kinda look musculer to buut... not that much really just try to experiment on the lines on places they would fit to go X3 maybe use references to help? i think theirs learning how to draw manga books that could help out with it 9think so anyway.. proberly dosent explain it but.. it hink they do have pictures for ref for it ^^ )
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07-29-2007, 09:48 PM
I have to agree with the other people. They look way too muscular. Also, they look a little plain. Try changing the styles and patterns on the clothes. You have a good base, but things look a little warped and out of preportion. I suggest you keep drawing, and save some of your old drawings. In a few years you'll be able to look back and see how much you've improved.
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