Originally Posted by rockin904

I have the enitre original 12 issue limited comic book series from DC comics that came out in the 80s written by famed writer Alan Moore who also did V for Vendetta and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen series. Watchmen is a huge movie event to be released next year. Don't miss it!

Thanks MayuSatomiJuRei for the song info. I have been dying to figure out the name of the song!

Ooohhh. I totally envy you! A very healthy type of Envy of course. ~_^
But seriously.... I was at a little bookstore in the middle of downtown, and it was amazing, I found the Watchmen comic books there! I was a few dollars short though.... too bad I didn't have my card with me.

I'm so psyched about this movie coming out. Any time that they make movies out of comic books, I get nervous because I'm such a comic book geek, but so far they've done great jobs. The Watchmen was a huge surprise when I saw the trailer for it in Dark Knight. I'm also excited for them to start The Avengers, Wonder Woman, Captain America, and the Shield... I'm not sure which ones are rumors, and which are really being filmed though. Oh well.... doesn't hurt to hope!

But I'm definitely going to be at the first showing of the Watchmen.

I own all 12 issues as well :D I absolutely love the song they played in the trailer {The Beginning Is The End Is The Beginning by Smashing Pumpkins}

I just hope to god they don't dumb down The Comedian, he's the most horrid monstrous character yet you don't hate him for assaulting Sally. I absolutely hate Veidt though *stabbies Veidt*

So I will likely go see this when it is out, anyone have any idea what the comics were about? And what is the buzz about the movie. I haven't heard anything, so I figured I would just ask.

There is an existing thread on this topic. I will be merging both threads shortly. :)

I saw this movie at midnight the night it came out, HATED IT. So who ever is looking forward to it, good luck. I thought it was absolutely horrible. Waaay too much talking and no action, and too much sexual themes, to the point where I was feeling queezy.

My friend was in this! He was an extra, and in this one scene, he's right up at the front of a crowd! So cool!
Anyways, I want to see this movie, it looks good.

Oh my fricking God! This movie was bloody ridiculous.

I have always loved the graphic novel. The anti-hero which Moore is famous for is quite fascinating, but I never thought I would see Hollywood do justice to "Watchmen".

The movie has been in and out of production since the novel debuted and finally all the elements necessary came together.

IT IS PHENOMENAL. It is so true to the comic that I was floored. It certainly isn't appropriate for younger crowds, but neither was the novel.

The cinematography, writing, acting, everything are magnificent. This movie is soooo much better than "The Dark Knight."

If you haven't seen "The Watchmen" yet, go quickly. Even if you haven't read the novel or been a fan, you will thoroughly enjoy it!

The special effects were amazing. The soundtrack was awesome. The story.. well I guess I didn't fully get it. I kept feeling like there was some prequel I didn't know about. I suppose that's because I never read the graphic novel. Despite that, I did enjoy it and plan to buy the GN soon. :]

Yous should definitely check it out. it is the definition of a graphic novel! "Time" magazine called it one of the 100 greatest books of all time!

I can't wait to get the DVD, I felt like I missed so much. There was sooo much detail. But I'm a huge fan, so I'll wait for the "Director's cut." Supposedly they are incorporating the "Tales of the Black Freighter" animated film in the movie, just like in the book!!

I have to disagree with you purple_artemis. This was pathetic, they did an alternate ending, they barely stuck true to a lot of the lines in the comics and Rorschach was so bland. He wasn't as sociopathic as he is in the comics. The reason Snyder did an 'alternate ending' was because he felt the true ending was too 'complicated', how is it that complicated? Both endings involved Adrian destroying things, the comic involved half of New York, the movie involved nearly the whole world.

And was anyone else kinda grossed out by Laurie and Dan's extended sex scene in Archie?

I mean, I'm not saying sex is bad or anything, but I feel that they could have just implied it (the way the graphic novel does) and used the remaining two minutes for something more constructive, like explaining the ending (more on that below).

And also, I was getting tired of seeing Little Manhattan all the time. I think there's like, 4 or 5 panels in the comic that give us full frontal nudity of Dr. Manhattan. I mean, yes we know, he's naked and has a penis like all other men. But do we have to see it all the time?

I felt Rorschach and Nite Owl II/Dan Dreiberg were good though. I'll have to disagree with you, davyjoneslover, because I felt Jackie Earle Haley did a magnificent job beginning the Roschach we all know and love to the big screen.

Re: The ending.
Okay, I really felt Snyder could have easily used Squidy at the end, and this is how.

First off, just mention a couple of times that Max Shea and the others have gone missing. This can be accomplished through:
a. Some of the characters reading the newspaper and commenting on it
b. Showing the audience a brief shot of a newspaper article talking about the disappearances.

Secondly, when Doc is having his little memory trip on Mars, include the scene from the GN where he and Laurie go to visit Adrian in Antarctica. That is where we first see Bubastis, and it mentions that the cat is genetically engineered. It also shows the viewer the type of knowledge and genetic technology Adrian has at his disposal (technology that could, oh I don't know, CREATE A BIG ASS MOFO SQUID-ALIEN).

Third, show the scenes on the island with all the "disappeared" people, like Max Shea. Maybe even have a couple of them talking about how they've been gone so long that people probably think they've gone missing/been kidnapped.

I really think that those three factors combined would have justified using Squidy at the end.

Here's the only issue. The movie was nearly three hours long! While it felt like half that while you were in the theatre, any longer and it wouldn't have been marketable. While I would have loved more of the real story to be portrayed, unfortunately that would have taken a great deal longer and no studio is going to promote a three and one half hour superhero movie!

Yeah, I could see how that would be a problem.

But having characters mention the disappearances of the artists and whatnot wouldn't take up time. It's just inserting a line here and there.

And showing Laurie and the Doc in Antarctica doesn't have to be a long scene. A brief mention that they went there, and a brief description of the cat. Probably a scene about as long as that sex scene on Archie.

Showing the island would definitely add some length though. However, the current movie runs at about 162 minutes (2 hrs, 42 mins.) Adding the island scene could possibly push the movie to 3hrs, but I don't think it would exceed that.

But I understand where you are coming from.


Oh, and I remembered something that also bugged me about the movie: In the novel, Doc delivers the epic "nothing ever ends" line to Adrian at the end. In the movie, Laurie says it to her mom because "she knows Jon would say something like that." I feel this was an unnecessary change, but that's just me.

The ONLY issue I had with this movie, as I utterly loved it otherwise, was that ... it was SO LONG. ^^; I hadn't really been expecting to lose half my day when I'd gone to see it. Not that I minded, ultimately, but it hadn't sunk in just how LONG the movie was until I'd walked out of the theater and went, "Whoa... since when have I walked out of a matinee showing and it been DARK outside... o_O;"

I AM sad for the loss of squidy, but you can only do so much with the time you're given, so I understand. =( Maybe they'll have something cool about it on the DVD extras? xD; (Is it sad, that I look forward to seeing what they include in the extras? lol)

As much as it seems that I may be ragging on the movie, I have to say that the opening montage was absolutely awesome!

It definitely did a wonderful job of summing up the entire backstory of the comic in about two minutes. And I'm not a Bob Dylan fan, but playing "The Times They Are-a Changin' " was just great.

I thought the movie was great.

And I liked the movie ending more than the book ending. gasp

I know, blasphemy.

I have a lot of respect for Snyder now. I didn't think they'd go full frontal with Dr. Manhattan, but I was pleasantly surprised. Good for them.

And yeah, the opening credits were amazing.

I think the movie ending was okay, but I wasn't really satisfied with it.

I mean, up until that point it is shown that the Doc doesn't give a flying crap about whether humans live, die, or have sex with horses. This is an attitude that he is shown to have throughout the whole movie and it is something that Laurie knows, and no doubt the military and the government know. I'm fairly certain Doc works for the government in this movie as well as working with Adrian, because he is still shown doing all his stuff in Vietnam. Considering the fact that he is a walking bomb, it would be logical that they (the US government) know everything about Manhattan and have him on surveillance all the time.

So why doesn't somebody say, "Hey, even though this guy left for Mars and doesn't give two shits about humanity, that doesn't mean he wants to kill us. He doesn't hate humans, he's just apathetic."

I just find this to be an important plothole. =/

But they have "proof" that Dr. Manhattan did it. Also, he "gives" people cancer. They have all they need to believe it was him.

I don't think it matters if the government knows about John's feelings (or lack of) toward humanity. All they know is that he's the most powerful being in existence, and that as far as they know, no other person or object could have done what they think he did. We the audience know different, of course.

Also, it's possible both sides were looking for a way out of the impending war but were too scared/dumb/whatever to back down. Dr. Manhattan gave them an excuse.

I finally got to watch the movie on Thursday and I've read a couple of chapters from the book prior to watching it (I haven't finished it yet). I enjoyed it and I was informed about the ending being different from the book. And Rabid Rainbow, you're not the only one who was turned off by the sex scene in Archie (and not to mention the fact that the music playing in the backgroud didn't fit at all). However, I actually wasn't bothered by Dr. Manhattan's nudity at all (but that's just me).

@Degnne: Ah well, I didn't think about that. xD

Overall though, I liked the movie although I was getting a little bit uncomfortable with that loooooong sex scene between Dan and Laurie. *sweatdrop*

Originally Posted by Rabid Rainbow

As much as it seems that I may be ragging on the movie, I have to say that the opening montage was absolutely awesome!

It definitely did a wonderful job of summing up the entire backstory of the comic in about two minutes. And I'm not a Bob Dylan fan, but playing "The Times They Are-a Changin' " was just great.

I have to agree with you. I loved the opening montage, and actually deciding to show that Blake was the one who shot Kennedy whereas in the comic, it is only implicated, was genius. I think they should have actually said more of the lines that happened before his assault on Sally though rather than just muting most of the voices.