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11-14-2007, 06:05 PM
IMVU uses less resources on your computer than Second Life, and is easier to get into.I tried SL, and left it after hours of struggling - I could barely move around or choose anything without my hard drive starting to read every other second. Sure, IMVU gets lag, but nowhere that bad. I recommend SL strictly only to those who have super computers - my poor 500+K can't handle that.
Personally, I find Alice and Hilda to be pretty accurate all things considered. It's a matter of preference whether one likes it or not, but it really depends on the developer's skill with what they make. At present, those are the only cosplays available, although Yuri's coat and Shania's native clothing are available - the rest just haven't been made yet :)
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11-14-2007, 06:11 PM
For me, the problem with SL wasn't lag--it just seems like there's nothing to do there unless you either want to shell out real money or can design clothes/graphics to earn SL money (although you need money just to upload, so...)
It was interesting at first, but got boring very quickly. I quit after a few days. And I never did really get to try making a Shania costume. Oh well.
I'll just stick to doodling and writing about the characters, I guess. :lol:
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11-17-2007, 05:41 AM
Did I understand correctly that we can design our own clothes in IMVU and SL? I haven't even visited those sites, but the thought of designing clothes intrigues me. :o
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12-03-2007, 04:16 PM
Whoa! This thread needs reviving.
Anyway, I feel like in a ranting mood today. XD
I'm not going to namedrop, but this user is a regular in Miko's thread and well...
I'm perfectly fine with people not liking the same characters that I do, otherwise it would be too boring, but really...when I know someone who likes a character that I hate to high heavens, I hold my tongue, out of respect to that person, especially if s/he is more or less an acquaintance. And, I feel as though I have outgrown the vile need to tear apart the character I hated at the first excuse that's handed to me. :lol:
Anyway, once upon a time, it would give me great pleasure to call Karin names: skank, slut, whore and other abominable things I can think of, but it could be that because I'm older now, I see that kind of behavior as really, really immature. But along with this er, 'maturity', I found out that I'm more sensitive too. For some reason, it irks me a lot to hear anyone calling Alice a 'bible-hugging bitch'. Especially, if this someone is one of the regulars at Miko's and Mushy's thread. >.>; Not only do I lose respect for this person, her mere presence irritates me right now. :o
Hey, I'm not saying we should like the same characters, but...I just thought for the sake of others, if you knew how much they adore so and so characters, you'd at least hold your tongue, a simple "I don't like so and so character." Would do. Why gratify that itch to say nasty things about that character you loath? I know very well that 'ebul pleasure' that sick satisfaction that gives you when you er, insult someone you hate, so I suppose I can understand that impulse...but meh, I realized now that 's one of the fastest way to lose respect.
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12-08-2007, 03:29 PM
Hey Alice. I tried to stick up for Alice as a character (not you, but your namesake XD) in that thread...trying to sound nice as possible. ^^;
Oh and um, anyone heard the news about the former employees of Nautilus? I wanted to mention it, because it's good/bad news. Good as in, they're making games! Sad, because they won't ever be working on Shadow Hearts again. :(
However, maybe that same flavor will add to the games they make in the future. ^_^
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12-08-2007, 11:20 PM
Aw Mushy, I hope you're not feeling responsible for that one. XD I knew from the start that she doesn't like Alice, but I never, ever expected it of her to say such a thing where I can see it. :o Well, it's not that I want to restrain anyone from voicing their thoughts/opinions, it's just that...at least, for my sake, won't you hold back a little? :lol:
I don't know why I'm actually relieved that there won't be anymore Shadow Hearts. :o I guess, I just had a taste of what could happen to the characters in Chaos Wars for me to become wary.
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12-09-2007, 12:51 AM
See, I had no idea that she disliked Alice at all, but it was rather intense dislike. o.O; I just really don't feel comfortable with a ton of character bashing. There's two female characters I find I intensely dislike, and yet when others bash them in a way I never would, it really makes me want to hate them less...
I didn't get to play Chaos Wars, so I wouldn't know. T_T Being that it's a crossover, I'm kind of glad you can exclude it from being canon, just in case it twists the game around too much. The chibi Shadow Hearts character designs were rather adorable in it though! XD
And I'm relieved and yet sad. I mean, whatever the company comes up with will likely be decent. From what I understand, Lost Odyssey does employ some kind of time based turn system for the battles, but I don't know any specifics. It's just something Princess was telling me a bit about.
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12-09-2007, 04:12 AM
I knew she mentioned it before, but not in that kind of tone. And when one has played Shadow Hearts Covenant first, and *hints* not liking Alice, I know that it's more than just 'dislike'...I just never expected she'd voice it out.
I don't know why people choose to place the blame on Alice, for Yuri not 'moving on' and hooking up with Karin. :roll: Hulllo? She's dead, it's Yuri who refuses to let go. Why make Alice the ebul one just because your preferred pairing just wouldn't work? :lol:
Ah anyway, I don't mind her anymore. What with all the short posts she makes on yours and Miko's thread, I've gotten the impression that she's not a very happy person. I'm not going to get as cranky as her. :lol:
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12-09-2007, 04:29 AM
From her post, I only gathered she hated Alice for being so good. As cynical as she sometimes sounds, I often get the impression that good things, pure things - they're bad. I feel so guilty voicing those things but...that's how it came off to me. Alice might just be a trigger for more bitterness, unfortunately. People hate many female characters that are not so messed up and appear flawless to them...am I making any sense?
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12-09-2007, 04:49 AM
Oh, I wasn't trying to say that she preferred Karin for Yuri...although my words could be interpreted as such, I was talking about the Alice basher in general because Yuri didn't hook up with their preciousss Karin. :lol: Um, yeah that's what happens when I ramble. XD
She came off to me as a complainer actually, like nothing in her life works. School, her father, her sister, roommates, her car, her dog, why she even complained about the plug in the toilet once. :lol:
I have yet to hear her say something positive. XD It gives me the impression that she's not very happy, and I guess people who are goody-goody appears hypocrites to her, because she can't believe that kindness does exist in this world.
Um, I don't know how to associate with cynical people, not when they think that everything you do has hidden motives.
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12-09-2007, 04:54 AM
Yeah I know that most people hate Alice for that reason. They wanted Yuri with Karin.
Yeah, I don't understand all the cynacism either. It gets me paranoid to ever complain, as I find my life sometimes up and down, but I'm really quite happy. I have good friends, a great mom and brother, and sometimes a decent father...I have a lot of fun in life. If I'm unhappy about something, I really try to change it. And so when I see characters were they are "goody-goody" I don't see them too badly...I see them as strong characters. It takea a lot of will and strength to be kind and caring when you very well may never have that kindness and caring recieved well. And it's because people are so cynical. I got that from working retail - people never appreciated if you were kind to them. They would still be verbally abusive and even threaten you physically for really no reason at all. They didn't trust your kindness.
It's very hard to keep up that kind of strength, and that's why I admire kind characters the most. It's hard to be unselfish in a world that would so greedily exploit your kindness.
But really nice people do exist, and not everything in life is bad. ^___^
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12-09-2007, 05:28 AM
Ack! I knew people could be mean, but it's doubly hard when people are being rude when all you want is to help them. :x
I don't like to complain, unless I'm complaining about videogames/characters...but not about how my life sucks! I mean, it's not as if everybody else is having it easy. And I believe it makes it better for everyone to hear positive things than doom and gloom. :3 But I suppose it's all how one views things, like if they think being happy all the time is wrong, unnatural, it can't be helped. XD
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12-09-2007, 05:34 AM
I probably complain more than I should, but usually if something is really bothering me, I tend to be quiet and bottle it up and then accidentally lash out (oftentimes at people I'm not upset with).
I have ranted about video game characters I don't like. But when I see people complaining nonstop, and then they lash out at a character because they're too innocent and pure and obviously clash with Yuri...well, um, to be honest? It just sounds like bitterness to me. XD
I think it's better to be positive. People who are full of hostilities, bitterness, and all those negative emotions, affect the people around them like that. If you avoid doing things like that, and such, then it's better for people. Sure, not everyone is going to love you if you're kind, and that's tough...it's hard to understand. But if you keep being positive, I'm sure just like negativity, it's contageous to the people around you. :)
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12-09-2007, 05:59 AM
Yeah, that's why I like being around people who handle problems well, not that I want them to be all positive all the time, that's not human! But hearing nothing but negative stuff tends to rub on to people and then they'll feel miserable too.
I probably complain a lot too, but only my brother hears them. My mom said that bottling negative emotions may be the cause of my irregular period. I guess, I just don't want to burden people when I know they're having problems of their own too, unless I know that they don't mind hearing me whine. XD
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12-09-2007, 07:42 PM
Eh, I've had times I have bottled up anger, which isn't good. Dx Sometimes I vent to the wrong person, not realizing it, and um...turn to someone else. ^^; But usually, I try to keep my negativity out of friendships. I've had negative times in my life, that I'm ashamed about now, but I still even remember happiness with friends in those times. So...yeah. If that explains anything. ^_^; Not everything is bad.
Anyway, I suppose we're drifting off subject despite it starting on subject. But the whole thing is, that person is unhappy, and characters that aren't deceiving, aren't mean, tough...that kind of thing. It makes her believe such characters aren't real/possible. Well, I'm sure that's her central reason for calling Alice a bunch of vulgar names.
I tend to not bash characters from any games I've played. ^^; Not even the two that irk me a LOT. Heck, I don't even bash villians most of the time. :P I tend to ignore most characters I'm not fond of. Only two really bother me, like I said. Both are extremely selfish...
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12-10-2007, 02:15 AM
I remember that time Charis mentioned how her mom was afraid of Miko because she thought Miko had some ulterior, shady motives behind the gifts she sends Charis. :XD Miko's words were something like 'kindness from strangers do exist'. It's not prudent to be too trusting, but at the same time, it's hard for the sincere people when they're accused of things they'd never do.
Err yeah, back on topic. I'm well aware that some people think that someone like Alice can't be real, that they find it difficult to believe that someone would be that unselfish or naive. It's not as if Alice is that innocent either, she's very suspicious of Yuri on their first meeting, only she had no choice but to stick with him because she'd be lost on the field. XD It was only after Zhaoyang village, when he had risked his own butt again to protect her did she start to open up. I've always wondered if Alice did get the rude joke Yuri said that night, looks like she did. :lol:
Anyway, can't blame other people for thinking Alice is fake. I ought to be more understanding and sympathize with them rather than er, get irritated with them. :3 There's a limit to everything of course. XD
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12-10-2007, 07:49 AM
Yeah, I remember that, and Miko saying that too. :3
I think Alice understood Yuri's rude comments. XD And yeah, she was very suspicious of him. And while she may be innocent, there are things she's done that no others would have - she's used a bible to belt several enemies, not just monsters but corrupted humans as well. She's tough, whether people want to believe it or not.
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12-13-2007, 02:16 AM
I'm getting tired of browsing through boring threads just to find something to say and earn gold. :gonk: Why can't I just be more talkative about other stuff rather than just things that interests me? :gonk:
Anyway, Alice may seem too timid, or a softee, but even Yuri can't sway her when she sets her mind on something. Bet he was surprised to find out how stubborn she is! :lol:
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12-13-2007, 10:13 AM
I hadn't really been here much, except on like charis's quest thread and this one...XD So I haven't really gone looking for convos to earn gold by chatting. Are there no hangouts? :(
Yeah, that's one thing I've noticed. Alice is pretty stubborn and ambitious, despite the fact that she appears innocent. I mean, she's faced a lot of enemies, including those masks. The average person probably wouldn't be able to stomach meeting Atman. She is STRONG.
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12-13-2007, 10:32 AM
The reason why I'm trying to earn gold here is that I saw an artist here that I'd like to get art from. XD
I think there are hangouts forum, but...heh, I only talk to you and Charis, the rest are post&run. :lol:
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12-13-2007, 12:32 PM
Good luck! Going to add more to the Yuri x Alice shrine soon? <3
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Alice Elliot
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12-15-2007, 11:00 AM
I have a few ready to be posted, if only I can find enough time to get it done. :domo: It's just that it takes me a loong time to update just the fanart section. :gonk: Time that I don't have right now...but next week, I have plenty. :twisted:
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12-21-2007, 06:30 PM
Oooh, that's cool. :o
I'm sure you on break now, and can update the Yuri x Alice shrine some more? ^_^
I'm going to update the KiyoMado shrine after Christmas a little more. My brain is confuzzled from the holidays. I hope to have plenty of time after then to get more pictures posted. <3
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12-22-2007, 03:26 AM
Yes, I'm on break now...except that only after Christmas do I have free time, right now we have guests everyday, from distant relatives, old friends and the like. :gonk: It's quite tiring, but it only happens once a year. XD
To top it all, my friends got married on the 20th. We knew this beforehand, it's just that it slipped my mind completely until the day came and I found out that I have nothing to wear! T_T
How's your shrine? Did you update some more?
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12-22-2007, 01:21 PM
Hehe, sounds really busy. Hopefully you'll get more time after Christmas. Posting on forums in-between getting candies made, buying presents - I'm exhausted and can't concentrate much on html. XD
Didn't you say you'd seen an artist here that you were going to hire for another Yuri x Alice (or them separately).
I still want to draw Yuri and then a Yuri and Alice for your shrine, but I'm practicing a lot more. I got my tablet and I'm trying out free programs Tal showed me that I've downloaded. Too bad I don't have Photoshop. I'm trying to just scribble poses and use the layers for stuff...
I have some stuff that came with my tablet, and one a Photoshop but I don't know how it works.
Anyway, I don't know how it will turn out, but I'm hoping that eventually I can draw more Shadow Hearts characters! ^_^ I'd love to draw a decent picture of Margarete. :P
I put some pictures in the shrine but I'm pretty sure I messed up on the thumbnails... :(
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