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Old 11-03-2011, 09:55 AM

For a moment, try and forget about whether or not such things to honestly exist and pretend that they do. Debating about whether or not alternate realities and things like that even exist can get messy and completely negates my topic here.

I've recently entered into an interesting discussion with my friend on this topic. To summarize, we are questioning each other on things like, "What if the reality you are experiencing now isn't the one you started in?"

I stated right off the bat that I wouldn't care, because even with all my stress here I am perfectly content with the reality I have. She, on the other hand, said she would want to go back because maybe it would be better there.

In continuation, I asked her about the people that she had met here; her closest friends and loved ones. I had her consider that if she weren't in her "right" reality, then maybe she never met them in the "correct" one. If she went back to the reality where she never met these people, her life would be drastically changed because of that.

So, Menewsha, what are your thoughts on the topic?

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Old 11-03-2011, 02:26 PM

I'd want to explore every reality I can. Not to find something better, but to find people I perhaps wouldn't have met. I would be very sad to leave those I've already found, but I want to explore, I want to keep moving forward, and perhaps a day may come when I've reached the end of how much I can bear, and I may crave and attempt to find my way back, back to those I once knew.

I view life itself as a journey forward, it's one step in front of the other, and the pursuit of the unknown.

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Old 11-03-2011, 11:29 PM

You have an interesting view on this, Codette. You must be a strong person to consider being able to do such a thing. I know I couldn't leave behind what I have right now. You'd likely find some very interesting things on your travels if it were possible to do any form of "reality-hopping".

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Old 11-03-2011, 11:33 PM

How does she know her other reality is better? Does she remember it? How does she know she didn't come to this reality to escape the horrors of the old one?

There are alot of questions that come with a topic like this. If other realities did exist I don't think I would take them. As bad as this one has been to me at times in the past....its still my reality. Another reality might be substantially worse off and then when I took this road not taken.......I lose the road I took the first time.

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Old 11-03-2011, 11:39 PM

She doesn't; which is exactly why I started talking to her about it more heavily. She isn't pleased with some aspects of her life here, but the thing with this topic is that it's hard to really know what would be waiting for you in another reality.

The fascinating thing about this subject is though, that we create so many different possible realities for ourselves with every little thing that we do. Each time you choose one thing over another, the option not chosen becomes another reality that you could have gone down and experienced things differently; even if only slightly.

It is kind of fun to think back to how things could have differed if you'd done ___ over ___. You just have to remember that it might not have gone the way you assume it would have. If you choose to go to the store instead of not going to the store, you could avoid a 9 car pileup that may have taken your life. However, you could also have missed a life changing event that would have brought good fortune. Life is fun that way.

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Old 11-03-2011, 11:44 PM

Life is an adventure worth taking. No matter what reality becomes of your choices, don't regret them. Stand behind them and move on. Even if they are bad choices....learn from them.

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Old 11-04-2011, 01:15 AM

if it was troublesome to go back; i wouldn't go through the effort; clearly the two realities weren't different enough to cause me to notice the move, so going back would probably just be more inconvenient.

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Old 11-10-2011, 09:35 PM

So.... right now we're existing within a single reality, reflected by an alternate reality. In both, I am extremely interested in your post and the subsequesnt replies. I type a response and submit it.

In the alternate reality, my reply is extremely long and well thought out. Particularly thought evoking, and resulting in a torrent of praise and further enlightened discussion.

In THIS reality in which we currently and continue to exist, I typed that same long, though evoking post. But then the f'ing power went out for all of 1.5 seconds and now its gone. So I typed this instead.

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Old 11-11-2011, 12:36 AM

Maybe if you feel up to typing out that long post you can put it up here and give us all something more to discuss. It's very irritating to put all that work into a post just to lose it though.

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Old 11-12-2011, 01:19 PM

Just to throw a spanner in the works here. If we lived in an alternate reality we might not be having this discussion or maybe the theory of alternate realities might not exist. Perhaps in one alternate reality, alternate realities don't exist. Think o that like a one way window. You can enter one way but not come out through any other.

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Old 11-12-2011, 01:22 PM

@Pyro- that is a good point.

Then you come down to the choice of weather it would be worth taking that leap.

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Old 11-12-2011, 05:08 PM

That's a really interesting thing now. I'm pretty sure that if there were alternate realities, I wouldn't want to see them, well, unless it would be possible to come back anytime I'd want.
But then I'd miss what would happen in "my" reality, during the time of my travel, wouldn't I? And maybe the choice of travelling through the alternate realities would create yet another one.

The more you think about it, the more complicated it seems, really.

Still, I would be pretty scared to discover different realities. Probably I'd start regretting certain choices, thinking, well if I did this instead of that, then THIS could be "my" reality instead.

But then, I wouldn't want to leave the people I met. What if I would forget about them completely during the change of realities? What if I wouldn't forget them, and would miss them so much it would be just way too painful? Would I still know them in the reality I decided to abandon? If there are alternate realities, do we change them during our lives, not even realising it? If yes, then when does it happen? Or are these alternative realities just living their own lives?

There's just too many questions, which then lead to different ones. Uh. And no answers. Oh, well I made myself sound like I was 100% sure that these kind of realities exist. :P

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Old 11-17-2011, 12:11 AM

I wouldn't even want to KNOW about my alternate reality... I have always lived my life with a firm philosophy of 'no regrets', even though I've done/experienced some things that most people WOULD regret. If I were to go to an alternate reality, it would basically be saying that my current life is 'wrong' somehow.

Another thought (totally inspired by Doctor Who, in case there are any Whovians on here) -- if you were to jump to an alternate reality, wouldn't you feel guilty about abandoning your friends and family here? If you're in a relationship, would you just leave your significant other to try to live without you?

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Old 11-17-2011, 09:46 AM

Certainly a big fan of the good Doctor, but when solely considering the emotional attachment factor... I would have no regrets. Actually, I find it quite ironic (but am in no way demeaning or depreciative) that in your first paragraph you vaguely outline a "no regrets" lifestyle, but in your second paragraph the one having chosen an alternate reality is left stuck on pondering the decision.

Before we can even begin to ponder any alternate realities, we have to be aware of our own. Technically, we ARE aware in that we're conscious. We're also aware of that consciousness- we have conscious awareness; ie the ability to think. The fact that we've stated so proves it and that's why the stating so matters.

To think about something means to question it- even if you are making the statement, "I want cake!" You initially had to answer the question in your mind, "Do I want cake?" To think is to ponder- to ponder something is to question it. To think is to question.

Now that I've mentioned our conscious awareness, we're (maybe unconsciously (or subconciously but we're not getting that deep tonight)) thinking about it. Questioning it. Our awareness of ourselves makes us question ourselves. Also, humans having been around for so long, we've begun to answer ourselves. Our biggest questions are why are we here and how did we get here? The answers we've formed....are religions. The next questions being how should we live our lives and continue to coexist? Our answers for this are called government.

It is our awareness that has caused us to question our reality and we have ultimately acted on that questioning to form a world around us based on how we percieve it.

"Awareness" includes being aware of our actions and intentions. What our actions imply, and how they affect others. How everything in the world acts and reacts, cause and effect- being aware of the nature of actions. Ultimately, being aware is knowing whats good and bad- the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Based on what we allow, what we accept, and what we enjoy, we have formed a reality in which we exist. This is reality, and now you percieve it. Perception is reality.

Our subject is ALTERNATE realities. Alternate perceptions. Although there is infinitely more to be said, I would say that I am aware that we are currently as this very moment in this reality, which we can not help (to an extent) but percieve for what it is, which is reality. The only realities which are subject to change based on our perception are our memories, because people remember them/ percieve them in different ways....so memories are alternate realities.

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Old 11-17-2011, 11:13 PM

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Certainly a big fan of the good Doctor, but when solely considering the emotional attachment factor... I would have no regrets. Actually, I find it quite ironic (but am in no way demeaning or depreciative) that in your first paragraph you vaguely outline a "no regrets" lifestyle, but in your second paragraph the one having chosen an alternate reality is left stuck on pondering the decision.
That's why I said I wouldn't even want to *know* about an alternate reality... it seems like such a huge thing that it would be nearly impossible to not consider the possibilities once you knew about it.

In the second paragraph I didn't necessarily mean *I* would be regretting the decision (although it is ENTIRELY possible that I would) -- I just meant that I believe in general, most people would wonder from time to time if they made a mistake in switching realities. If it helps any (though if you're a Doctor fan, you may have picked up on this), I was thinking of Rose Tyler. Sure, she [SPOILERS] ended up in a reality where her dad's alive, where her mom is, and where she can be romantically involved with a human version of the Doctor, but I've always had such pity for her -- despite my 'no regrets' deal with my own present life, I know if I were in her position, I would be spending the rest of my life thinking about the 'real' Doctor, if he's ok, who he's with, if he's missing her. Sure, she got her 'happy ending', but at the sacrifice of leaving behind someone who she *knew* loved her. [/SPOILERS] I can't help but think that anyone who would switch realities would have to wonder how the people they left behind would be faring.

 


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