Originally Posted by ElysiumFate

@Infinity: Your last statement made plenty of sense. Hormones are something that NO ONE can control. I think that everyone goes through a "craphead" stage, so to put it, as a teenager. There is no teenager alive that hasn't made ten thousand mistakes. I understand why you're more accepting.

Little kids can most definitely lie. I remember doing it...and I admit that I don't remember being taught how to do it...

Little bit off topic.... I remember exactly who told me how to lie. When I was little i had a babysitter;(who i hated) and this babysitter had this little witch of a daughter who lied all the time. Before I knew it I found myself lying as well, which i had never done before. It frightened me.

@Yumiko: Eh. It's not off topic. It's just the way the debate went.

I'm pretty sure that was what happened to me. I had to go through day care, and I was bound to learn at some point.

Still a case of nature over nurture, in my opinion.

I think the worst one depends on who's watching it, Age wise.
For me, I'll have to go with violence.
Why? Not really sure.. maybe because it's a little scary. sometimes just WATCHING it isn't really much of an effect but if you place yourself in their shoes you'll see what I'm talking about.

I don't really think that one is worse than the other. it really depends on the maturity of the children watching the movie/tv show/video game that determines whether the movie is age appropriate or not. I remember that I watched the Highlander Series from the time I was about 12 and it has everything in it sex, violence and mature content but my parents felt that I was mature enough to handle the content and they made sure that they were around to answer questions and to make sure that the tv show was not doing 'permanent emotional damage' to me. I am a firm believer in that it's not the movies, music, tv or video games that make children violent or have disrespect toward others. I agree that it is an inborn trait in humans to be violent however, it is the parents' responsibility to channel that aggression. Not everything can be blamed on the parents but to risk bringing a cliched example into this, there is no way that the parents of the kids who shot up Columbine were totally ignorant of their childrens' distress. Depression and the anger and violence that sometimes accompanies it does not just turn up over night. And the desire to kill others does not just turn up over night.

It is the children who embody the anger and aggression but it is the parents and the adults around them that are responsible for recognizing it.

Originally Posted by Wat3rElem3nt

I don't really think that one is worse than the other. it really depends on the maturity of the children watching the movie/tv show/video game that determines whether the movie is age appropriate or not. I remember that I watched the Highlander Series from the time I was about 12 and it has everything in it sex, violence and mature content but my parents felt that I was mature enough to handle the content and they made sure that they were around to answer questions and to make sure that the tv show was not doing 'permanent emotional damage' to me. I am a firm believer in that it's not the movies, music, tv or video games that make children violent or have disrespect toward others. I agree that it is an inborn trait in humans to be violent however, it is the parents' responsibility to channel that aggression. Not everything can be blamed on the parents but to risk bringing a cliched example into this, there is no way that the parents of the kids who shot up Columbine were totally ignorant of their childrens' distress. Depression and the anger and violence that sometimes accompanies it does not just turn up over night. And the desire to kill others does not just turn up over night.

It is the children who embody the anger and aggression but it is the parents and the adults around them that are responsible for recognizing it.

You're right, things like that don't crop up over night. However...

Your last line is what catches my eye. Following that line of thought, you could say that it is the person who commits suicide that has the problem, so to speak, but it is the people around them, including of course, the parents, who should have recognized the person's despair. But the truth is that far too many times, no one around that person saw anything wrong. You hear it all too often from the family and friends of one who has killed themselves how the person seemed fine. Albeit, just as often, others sit in judgment and say they must have been blind. People like that are oftentimes VERY good at hiding their inner emotions and pain. Children can hide their feelings as well. It's not so cut and dry.

lol, well, I think both should be on equal terms. Especially since the more you limit things, the more people get curious about it and they seem to learn more finding out about restricted stuff than about non-restricted stuff. The restricted stuff just kind of perks people's interest and they find themselves wanting to learn more >.< I know that over here in North America sex is rated higher than violence, but then you seem to find that the younger population seems to know more about sex than violence ._. it kind of defeats the purpose of it all when you think about it ._. I don't know about the European Countries, but I heard that violence is rated higher than sex and I also heard that although sex is know to the younger generation, there seems to be a ton of a lot more fighting ._.

Well, if my porn suddenly lost all of the sex, it wouldn't be very much fun! And violence is good too, sometimes. Didn't we all love Fight Club?

In my P.O.V I really think Violence is worse thn sex in movies bc its really basically something you learn in health class is sex lol and the violence their showing in movies is like telling kids or whoevers watching you shud do this do i mean their both bad for showing it but more violence

In my opinion violence has more influence and is more ‘dangerous’ than sex. Sex is a natural human instinct that you’re going to feel and do, most likely, seeing it or not. I know violence is too, but usually the less you see of it the less the chemicals in your brain trigger to commit it in every day life. (So I heard back in high school. (Well, about the chemical thing.) Granted there’s still going to be violence, but there would probably be less ‘stupid violence’ if there was less of it in movies and on TV.


NOTE: I love violence in movies (especially if it’s bloody), so I do support it, but for this discussion this is my opinion.

I'm from America, and I dunno about everywhere else, but over here, we are SERIOUSLY hung up about sex. You see violent crap on television all the time, but suddenly it's shocking beyond all reason when you see some chick topless. "It's on public television! My child could see that!"
The disparity between people's opinions on sex and violence is disappointing.

I'm not sure why you consider sex "bad". I'm hoping you meant specifically in movies.

If that's the case, I don't think either is inappropriate, and I don't really agree with the age limits put on movies at all, but if I had to choose, I would say violence is far worse. Sex in movies is generally fairly unrealistic, which is harmful, but violence is potentially more harmful because, when a child sees something in a movie, she assumes that it is an accurate portrayal of reality. When this something is violence, she may come to believe that it is acceptable to harm someone else, especially if they're a "bad guy", or worse, that when you hit or shoot or stab someone, they aren't hurt that badly.

Of course, none of this is a problem if her parents are responsible enough to inform her of the differences between a movie and real life, but that of course is asking far too much.

i agree with philomel