So only people who donate get to use the avi creator...how ridiculous is that. Just another reason to rarely visit this site.

Originally Posted by sky_angel

So only people who donate get to use the avi creator...how ridiculous is that. Just another reason to rarely visit this site.

sky_angel: It's either limit the amount of people who can access it, or don't have it at all. Besides that, you don't need it to visit the site do you? It's never been here before, so why need it now?

sky_angel:
Hey since you don't like it here, mind donating those panda slips to someone who might actually use them? :sarcasm:

Originally Posted by Insomniac

sky_angel: It's either limit the amount of people who can access it, or don't have it at all. Besides that, you don't need it to visit the site do you? It's never been here before, so why need it now?

yes we did use to have an avatar creator, that was open to all members...until it stopped being updated. So when are the membership fees for the site going to start, because that seems to be what is coming next.

All that I am saying is that I do not think that it is right having a service, especially one like an avatar creator, be limited only to those who throw away their hard earned dollars on virtual items. It should be available to all members!

WOW!!! great job!. this will be a great thing for menewsha to have! ^.^ you admins are great. keep up the amazing work. i cannot wait to test that out and make my dream deathknight avitar,

hope in the future you will make new ways to make gold ^.^ and ill keep refering people to join here (:

The money to run the site though, sky, has to come from somewhere. :/

Originally Posted by sky_angel

yes we did use to have an avatar creator, that was open to all members...until it stopped being updated. So when are the membership fees for the site going to start, because that seems to be what is coming next.

All that I am saying is that I do not think that it is right having a service, especially one like an avatar creator, be limited only to those who throw away their hard earned dollars on virtual items. It should be available to all members!

sky_angel: Membership fees make absolutely zero business sense. This is not a dating site, and it's not reporting your credit score.

Originally Posted by sky_angel

yes we did use to have an avatar creator, that was open to all members...until it stopped being updated. So when are the membership fees for the site going to start, because that seems to be what is coming next.

All that I am saying is that I do not think that it is right having a service, especially one like an avatar creator, be limited only to those who throw away their hard earned dollars on virtual items. It should be available to all members!

Sky, please. This isn't a corporate site meaning money isn't generated through sponsors or selling out their pages with a spam of ads. An avatar creator is a HEAVY burden on the site's bandwidth. They rely purely off donations which probably isn't a lot; I'm sure staff uses a chunk of their own money to run this site. Anyway, a creator isn't needed so I don't know what the problem is here. It's not like you still can't buy items or preview them. Even donating takes only, what, $3? Boohoo.
"Membership fees"? :roll:

I couldn't find the answer myself (though I might just be blind, lol) but how much do you have to donate in order to use it?

And, do you just donate once and you can use it, or do you have to donate like once a month or something?

No, you do not have to donate every month. Just once is enough, to my understanding. :)

Originally Posted by Voe

Sky, please. This isn't a corporate site meaning money isn't generated through sponsors or selling out their pages with a spam of ads. An avatar creator is a HEAVY burden on the site's bandwidth. They rely purely off donations which probably isn't a lot; I'm sure staff uses a chunk of their own money to run this site. Anyway, a creator isn't needed so I don't know what the problem is here. It's not like you still can't buy items or preview them. Even donating takes only, what, $3? Boohoo.
"Membership fees"? :roll:

I must not take up too much bandwidth if other avi sites are able to have it available for all members...for example zantarni.

Originally Posted by sky_angel

I must not take up too much bandwidth if other avi sites are able to have it available for all members...for example zantarni.

sky_angel: Zantarni barely has a 10th of the traffic we do

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Bandwidth is also a term being used very loosely for "capabilities". The server has limited capabilities to handle the high strain load the DAC creates.

Originally Posted by Iroase Delschatten

No, you do not have to donate every month. Just once is enough, to my understanding. :)

Okay! Thank you very much n_n I might end up donating a bit to play around with it :3

Originally Posted by Insomniac

sky_angel: Zantarni barely has a 10th of the traffic we do

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Bandwidth is also a term being used very loosely for "capabilities". The server has limited capabilities to handle the high strain load the DAC creates.

Well a lot of other sites have free avi creators as well, and if it is about traffic... gaiaonline has more traffic than this site, but yet they still have a free avai creator.

Personally I don't think it is about the traffic or capabilities of the site...It's about the money. If it wasn't then something would done to solve the issues.

sky_angel: Gaia Online, to my understanding, does not have a free dream avatar creator. TekTek.org is not part of Gaia Online. It is run by someone who is not part of the Gaia Online staff, to my understanding.

I don't mean to butt in with this, but Ernya has a free DA, on their own web site and I think they have about the same with you guys according to that web site.
I'm a bit confuse though, is the DA here only for people whom donate, as in, that is how it will always be?

CK's right, Tektek is nothing to do with Gaia and never has been, it is run by a Gaia user and he funds it himself using adverts. :)

Misfitt, maybe Ernya can manage with its avatar creator because that's a much smaller site? They will have nowhere near the amount of items that we do so their creator will put far less strain on their server.

This looks so cool! I wish I was able to use it but I can't donate anything unfortunately so it looks like I won't be able too :(
This avatar creator is a good idea though.

EDIT: I was reading the comments and found out about the MAC.....is that free? How do I find it??

Originally Posted by sky_angel

Well a lot of other sites have free avi creators as well, and if it is about traffic... gaiaonline has more traffic than this site, but yet they still have a free avai creator.

Personally I don't think it is about the traffic or capabilities of the site...It's about the money. If it wasn't then something would done to solve the issues.

Gaia Online makes -huge- profits, and they are a cooperation, and Gaia is all about the money (They were on the top ten most financially successful sites not to long ago). Tektek is owned by someone else who likely makes profits off ads by stealing all the Gaia traffic. Do you want ads here?

Would you rather this website goes under because the creators can't afford to pay for it out of pocket anymore? Ignoring just how much time these folks put into the site, there are very large bills associated with sites that have a lot of traffic. Trying to find a nitch to pay the bills isn't some big scheme to manipulate you out of cash. Money makes the world go round, even on the internet.

Unless of course this site simply exists via the power of god, and no one has ever put any of their own hard earned money or time into it, over and over again for the free enjoyment of people like you. Such a silly idea.

Just sayin <.<

Originally Posted by fireprincess

This looks so cool! I wish I was able to use it but I can't donate anything unfortunately so it looks like I won't be able too :(
This avatar creator is a good idea though.

EDIT: I was reading the comments and found out about the MAC.....is that free? How do I find it??

The MAC is no longer available as it was uploaded offsite and that could have created ownership issues over our items.

i think its great that menewsha has almost every aspect of it available whether you donate or not, there are so many other sites where you can use a minimum or moderate amount of the site and activities on it but when you donate there are a whole range of things that only then you can do

I love that there are no adds flashing all around the screen, and i reckon that's well worth having to chip in a little if you want a couple of extra things to use on the site. Because the DA creator is not in any way a hindrance to site use by not having it, i think its a great way to get a decent level of donations, and a really good-hearted way of running things too.

Its a balanced combination of the site and servers' capabilities, bandwidth vs traffic, finance issues and need that all balance out to make the way things are at the moment with the DA the best option in my opinion

Keep up the good work! I may have just joined, but I'm really enjoying the site and all the hard work you put into it is highly appreciated