Men still think that they are on top of the human race! They still think they can own us hit us! Men need to look at reality and see that that time is over. Us women are already starting to be on top and men should just back off! >:O

Well, the only reason to assault someone is to protect someone innocent from being assaulted. And in this case it doesn't matter their gender, the right thing to do is to stop them.

Well, if your'e in a fight your'e probably wrong anyway. If someones atacking you, I thinnk you can atack back. How ever, if someone wants to be nobel of whatever, I don't care. That's just an advantage for me.

Normally men are much stronger than women, so it's unacceptable for a man to hit first because it's often like attacking a defenseless target. However if a women strikes first, then she makes it perfectly clear that she's not defenseless and should be more than willing to accept the repercussions of her actions. She shouldn't be treated like a child who can do whatever she wants with no consequence.

A man who just stands there and takes it is just as bad as a man who throws the first punch.

Originally Posted by justin

Men are expected to be nice to women. It's been like that for awhile. Women are allowed off of burning planes first, and to take the only life boats.

I think that it is the appropriate thing, because men are generally stronger than women. It's part of our genes.

one secound its not that youre held in high regard.its that we try to be nice because lets face it women are emotionaly fragile.+ its self preservation the more women the more kids the more the human race lives on

I'm going to ignore you, Taco, in the desperate hope that you're a troll.

Originally Posted by justin

Men are expected to be nice to women. It's been like that for awhile. Women are allowed off of burning planes first, and to take the only life boats.

I think that it is the appropriate thing, because men are generally stronger than women. It's part of our genes.

I agree. Women are every bit as SMART and IMPORTANT as men, but anyone who thinks we are equal in physical strength is blind. XD

Originally Posted by lostinausten91

but anyone who thinks we are equal in physical strength is blind. XD

Or intelligent.

In theory, men are always stronger than women. They're built to have bigger muscles than we are, since in nature, they'd be ripping each other to shreds over us, food, shelter, and pretty much everything. However, we don't live in a vacuum. Men and women don't all train their bodies the same way or get the same nutrition. Our bodies and backgrounds are all different, and unless you go to an area where women are actually forbidden from doing things like going to gyms and whatnot, you're just as likely to find a given woman stronger than a given man as you are the inverse.

It's just that men are normally physically stronger than a woman. (Other than the fact that women can give birth and what not that does make them strong)
If a woman smacks a man in the face it wouldn't hurt him nearly as much as the man hitting a woman in the face. Usually. There are some cases that a woman can knock the hell out of a man...
Women's facial structures are smaller and more delicate than a mans.

It is nothing but a sexist excuse but I believe it becomes an issue of giving what you get. A woman hits a man that means she provoked any response from the man but what is the likelyhood that they are both matched in strength? If the man hit the woman back with the same intensity as he was hit that would be one thing but that usually isn't the case.
I just say we shouldn't resort to violence no matter what your gender is.

I hate this stupid double standard. I think it is bullshit! Excuse my language please. If my buddy starts to punch me why should I take it? Why should it be any different than if a woman hits me? I don't care what anyone says, If I have to I will. I would never do so in anger though. Self-defense and last resort options are how I roll. I am a pacifist too, preferring to get my butt kicked in a video game than to duke it out on the streets, so I would probably take a couple hits before I started telling her to back off.

what ever happened to chivalry? i don't think anyone should hit anyone else, especially not a guy hitting a girl. and i don't think that's sexist at all. though if a girl does get all violent on a guy maybe he could hit her back slightly, not hard or anything, just to like defend himself and make the insane girl stop and chill out.

@ Amulet* If I hit a guy, I expect him to hit me with the same force.
I refuse to let guys treat me like a delicate flower just because of 'chivalry'.... never liked chivalry. Useless concept, made women seem helpless.

Originally Posted by Syraannabelle

@ Amulet* If I hit a guy, I expect him to hit me with the same force.
I refuse to let guys treat me like a delicate flower just because of 'chivalry'.... never liked chivalry. Useless concept, made women seem helpless.

i agree about the hitting back equally thing, its just that guys usually hit harder without realizing it. and that could get bad

I condone violence of any sort but I do beilieve in saying guys should not hit girls.
Girls are more delicate than guys. They are called the "weaker vessel" in the bible and it also says that you should treat others as you want to be treated. so You shouldnt hit period. Girls or guys.

Originally Posted by Liros

Personally (and this is from a woman's view, mind you!) I think that it is FULLY justified for a man to hit a woman... IF SHE PROVOKES IT.
That is my policy on ALL fighting. If one person provokes you, will not let you leave, or escape in a peaceful way, then you have EVERY RIGHT to defend yourself, irregardless of gender, age, or disabilities.

Now, I agree that it shouldn't be a double standard about not hitting women, however, age and disability SHOULD be taken into consideration in a fight.
If you are a grown man, and a nine year old boy throws a punch your way, it would be extremely wrong to hit them back. They are a child. Same with the elderly. The elderly could easily be killed by a punch or a push. A child is just too young have punches thrown at them, and there are betters way to deal with misbehavior like that (which is why child abuse is illegal).

If someone is getting in your face and threatening you, I don't see why being a woman should give you any protection at all. If you mess with someone, you better be willing to deal with the consequences of your actions.

And just because a male hits a female doesn't mean he's a jerkwad or a wife beater. It means someone pissed him off and got what's coming to them.

Although, of course, I don't advocate violence at all, for any reason other than for survival. 8D


Oh, and also, for the whole "girls are weaker than guys" argument: They don't HAVE to be. Hardly any guys actually go work out at a gym, so if you wanted to be a buff enough woman to take on a man, you have every opportunity to train yourself and be that way. It's your choice not to, and you should take that into account before you mess with a person.

To the men: Never hit a girl.
To the women: If you hit anyone, expect to be hit back.
To humanity: Stop using violence to make your point!

Humans are the one and only, exclusive, super-special species bestowed with the gift of extensive verbal language. Use your words, people! The only time a person strikes another, is if they are not witty enough to come up with an adequate verbal response.

To the men: Never hit a girl, unless she hits you first.
To the women: Never kick a guy in his junk. If he stabs you back, you deserve it.

I believe that if you can dish it out, you should be prepared to take the same amount back.

Two cents:
Girls who sing about Equality shouldn't be hypocrites and say 'Well men can't hit women then'
I believe that a lot of Feminists are really just looking to be the better species, and not equal at all.

i understand if you were attacked or something but just to hit a girl this is not in my realm of idea, i play hit like very light hits with my girlfriend and our friends but not like how me and my bestfriend hit that would just be brutal, i am sure i would be dumped...so in short i do not believe in hitting a girl, UNLESS! for self defense.

Originally Posted by Le Pomme

I believe that a lot of Feminists are really just looking to be the better species, and not equal at all.

And I believe that the people you're describing are not feminists, as saying men can't hit women while women can hit men is portraying women as the weaker sex, too meek to defend themselves, too fragile to deal with what men can. I also believe that the vast majority of the people who believe this don't even describe themselves as feminists, since I've never once met one who does, and I'm surrounded by women who believe men should never hit women even if their lives depend on it. So I'm confused as to why you felt the need to insult feminism when talking about an idea that is inherently sexist against women.

Originally Posted by Philomel

And I believe that the people you're describing are not feminists, as saying men can't hit women while women can hit men is portraying women as the weaker sex, too meek to defend themselves, too fragile to deal with what men can. I also believe that the vast majority of the people who believe this don't even describe themselves as feminists, since I've never once met one who does, and I'm surrounded by women who believe men should never hit women even if their lives depend on it. So I'm confused as to why you felt the need to insult feminism when talking about an idea that is inherently sexist against women.

I feel the need because all the women I'M surrounded with in MY town like to call themselves strong independent women but they bash men all the time, and yet contradict themselves with how they should be treated 'special' if not equal.

I'm confused as to why you would jump on one thing so quickly, maybe you consider yourself feminist? If so, sorry for insulting you.

Originally Posted by Le Pomme

[B][COLOR="YellowGreen"]I feel the need because all the women I'M surrounded with in MY town like to call themselves strong independent women but they bash men all the time, and yet contradict themselves with how they should be treated 'special' if not equal.

That is not the same as calling oneself a feminist. Those are women who may very well be strong and independent, but who obviously still think of women as less than men, they just only apply it when it seems to work in their favor.

I'm confused as to why you would jump on one thing so quickly, maybe you consider yourself feminist? If so, sorry for insulting you.

Yes, proudly. And I don't know what you mean by "quickly". And it's not that you insulted me, you didn't. You insulted feminists and feminism as a whole by saying that "a lot" of feminists are what you described, which is not really feminism.

I guess my feathers just get ruffled at comments like that, because it's so akin to a lot of arguments I've heard from anti-feminists about feminism in general, that we're just wanting special treatment or don't really know what we want or are just a bunch of man-haters. However, I realize your comment wasn't hateful in nature, so please don't think I'm attacking you or anything.

Well you see this is sort of a split way for me, I actually don't have a definitive answer for this. I don't condone violence at all, I think all forms is wrong, I hate war and meaningless gun fights and stabbings so I could argue that men should not hit women or women should not hit men.
I do think all the stuff about men being genetically stronger is a load of gook too, I mean women can do everything that men can, fair enough it may be a bit hard for women to do some things that men can I don't think that any gender has superiority in any sense of the matter.
So I really can't contribute much to this debate, sorry.

Well, it's been a sort of guideline for society for a real long time. Women are built differently in a biological sense, and in a large, large majority of cases, cannot hold their own physically against a man. I'm not talking like a Brazilian Martial Arts Blackbelt chick against a frat boy here, I mean normal women, whose best tricks are to just kick male opponents in the groin.

The average male tends to resort to physical contact in a conflict, whereas women tend to be a bit more underhanded. I don't find this to be bad, I just find it to be different.

Out of respect to females, I don't believe men should hit women in any average situation. A punch coming from an average male, even if he's not REALLY hitting hard, will deal a lot more damage than a punch coming from an average woman.

I think there are better ways to handle situations than fighting, and I really don't think much of either person in a fistfight I come across.

But it's true, women can get really mad and start hitting guys. Some women outright take advantage of the 'Dont hit women' double standard. But I think it would not to be too difficult for the targeted man to subdue her. I think it would be best for the man to show who's in control by just putting her in an armlock or something, there's so reason to really hurt another person, especially when they stand at a far lesser advantage.

Angry guys out there: show you're the better person by NOT hitting back. Just because she hit you does not justify returning violence.

But if she's got a knife or something, then that would be a different situation.