As a woman I would have to say that men have every right to defend themselves if being attacked by a woman. I will not break if you hit me. I don't feel its right to say that a man can't hit be, simply because I'm of the fairer gender. If I hit a man, he should hit me back. End of story.

. . .Can't we just not hit each other?

I'm fine and dandy with being nice to people, but you should be nice to someone not because they have ovaries.

Originally Posted by whompus

. . .Can't we just not hit each other?

I'm fine and dandy with being nice to people, but you should be nice to someone not because they have ovaries.

Thank you.

Stop the violence man! PEACE!

I sound like some hippie wow.

But I agree. Just because we were the "weaker" species for thousands of years doesn't mean anything. If I hit a guy and he doesn't hit me back. He is a coward.

But I shouldn't hit that guy to begin with.

Originally Posted by Tsukipon

[COLOR="Blue"][I]If I hit a guy and he doesn't hit me back. He is a coward.

Or a pacifist. Watch who you insult.

Originally Posted by Philomel

Or a pacifist. Watch who you insult.

Pacifists are cowards.

If they won't defend themselves and get beaten badly, then they are cowards.

My parents always told me never to hit a girl. My dad was very strict about this. Never was I to even think about it. I think for him and me, it is more out of respect than being physically stronger. The same thing goes with calling my mom or sister a B*tch. I am never to do that. I got my butt kicked for it once. I never did it again.

I think, no matter what gender you are, it is just easier to walk away. I am all about not being in pain. If I hit someone, my fist and wrist and arms are going to be hurt and that other person is going to be hurt. If someone hits me, it is going to hurt. I avoid that, thanks much. I'd rather talk about it. (unless I had to protect myself but no one has ever wanted to fight because I talk them out of it)

Karma sucks, that's what I believe... you hurt someone else, eventually, you will be hurt just as bad or worse later down the road.

As for doing "womens work", I don't think that should exsist anymore. there are some pretty tiny women out there doing mens work and there are some pretty buff men being stay at home dads. We live in AMERICA, where everyone is equal and, unless you can't physically do it, everyone should do each others work and help out.

Originally Posted by Tsukipon

Pacifists are cowards.

If they won't defend themselves and get beaten badly, then they are cowards.

I erased my original post so the more biased mods don't have anything to bitch about.

I do not see how not lashing out in anger and hatred and choosing not to perpetuate a cycle of violence is cowardly, and I think it says something about you that you think that.

Originally Posted by Philomel

I erased my original post so the more biased mods don't have anything to bitch about.

I do not see how not lashing out in anger and hatred and choosing not to perpetuate a cycle of violence is cowardly, and I think it says something about you that you think that.

Biased mods? Was it bad? Were you insulting me? I don't care. Be childish.

Everyone has a right to defend themselves. I'm sorry but if I am getting beat down, I am not going to let it go down without a fight. That could be a life and death situation. I can understand if I like, smack somebody and they don't fight back. It's not being a coward, it is being the adult person. But if someone is punching you and kicking you, what are you going to do? Wait for them to stop? If they stop? People who fight back are wrong?

That is why there is self-defense.

Now I ask, what does that say about me? Hm? Since you are the "all-knowing guru" and you know "Everything about everyone"?

How about "no hitting ever"?
I don't care what gender you are, you shouldn't hit anyone, nor should you accept being hit by anyone.

Originally Posted by Tsukipon

Biased mods? Was it bad? Were you insulting me? I don't care. Be childish.

Everyone has a right to defend themselves. I'm sorry but if I am getting beat down, I am not going to let it go down without a fight. That could be a life and death situation. I can understand if I like, smack somebody and they don't fight back. It's not being a coward, it is being the adult person. But if someone is punching you and kicking you, what are you going to do? Wait for them to stop? If they stop? People who fight back are wrong?

That is why there is self-defense.

Now I ask, what does that say about me? Hm? Since you are the "all-knowing guru" and you know "Everything about everyone"?

I think it really depends on a case-by-case basis. Just because someone doesn't fight back when they are getting beat up, doesn't make them a coward. Quite the contrary, they may just be weaker in general, may not be the best of fighters, or are just waiting for it to stop so they can go on with their lives.

Plus, some people just don't want to fight, and are stubborn enough to show it to their opponent by not hitting or fighting back when they are being beaten. They are martyrs, so to speak.

Pacifists aren't necessarily cowards. Just because they don't like to fight or want to doesn't mean that they won't defend themselves if they are being beaten. When circumstances change, so do people's views.

if a woman deserves to get hit, then she deserves to get hit & should thut get smacked. simple as that. :\

I think this first time reading a debate topic here is probably going to be my last.

Frankly, though, people who claim that not fighting back makes one a coward and deserving of a 'beat-down' are perhaps simply victims of their own bully mind set. Abusive types all feel entitled to the 'punishments' they deal out. No amount of arguing is going to convince an abuser that they are in the wrong. It is inevitably something that 'they brought on themselves'. Whatever unwitting offense was committed, be it as simple as having a hiccup in the middle of the abuser's self-important tirade of what-have-you, these think-with-your-fists types wholeheartedly believe that the violence is their rightful reaction.

As I said, I'm not coming back to this thread, and possibly not to the whole Debates section of the forum. When this popped up in the live thread posts feed, I had to come see what it was about. Now I know, and I see it's nothing new.

It's not just men who can be abusive in a relationship. I've heard plenty of stories where the wife was the abusive one. I don't think physical abuse is right, no matter what gender you are.