OTL - everyone likes the trim better....guess I'll mess with it and see...

Mariaria, are you using paint?

lmao yeah XD

I tried using bigger percentages of the dither....and you were right...makes it less blocky...

STILL using paint?
I was like thinking you can try something else. like gradient into golden colour.

Anyway, for dithering instead of pointy, now it looks blocky. DX
It just have this shape jutting out. Even for dithering, it should maintain the curve shape.

That is what I see. The dithering is not smooth, in terms of shape. it is more to rectangular/squarey.

About the brooch, I am talking about something like this.
http://www.myclassicjewelry.com/Imag...vesClips04.jpg

I'm going to keep the brooch for now - forcus on the dithering D: *gets to work* THANK YOU FOR RED LINES

The dithering is very subtle, only people like me notice it. XD
*arrogant alert!!!*

Dithering have shape too, remember.

Yeah I understand XD I don't want it to be just good...I want this to look great! and that will include the minor details XD

I think this is better...

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Er - I think this is even better XD

It is better, but I think you need to work on your shape in terms of curving.

Pixel Joint Forum: The Pixel Art Tutorial
Go to part IV. Things to avoid.
Read the one title Jaggies.
Look how to avoid the jagged effect.
Your dither shade is tidier but still squarey in general, on the right side of the fold.

Sorry for taking your time Xuvvie D:

I just completely redid that entire section XD As in erase and re-do lmaooooo

started with a solid, jaggie free, hourglass time shape in there and then added some different forums of dithering and tried to keep the shape.



---------- Post added 01-05-2013 at 03:34 PM ----------

and I just had to chase down my cat because I saw him walking with a lizard sticking out of his mouth D: Silly cat caught the lizard - but it was still alive!

Since you reshade... I still see jagged. the pixel should be corner touch corner direction for curve surface.
Your dither should always start with 50%, then slowly use the other %. Get rid of the other % first. Start with 50%. Then add back the other% pattern if it is not enough. However, you might consider to trim down the darker fold (upper part) line's dithering, too checkerboard.
What I see now, your darker shade between the curves have the best shape.

Okay - I worked ON ROUNDING it out......D:

and took away a lot of the checkerboard connections

http://i49.tinypic.com/1055q84.png
You don't seemed to catch how the jaggedness I am talking about.

To the right side, there are two lines, A and B. Your dithering looks like B.
Your fold is suppose to be have MORE curves at the bottom, therefore, your lines should be like A on the right side.
As it get more curve, the number of pixels is important as it gradually reduce. It is a kind of math equilibrium.

Another thing is... on the left side of, your zoomed in pixel.
There is this small letter a and b.
It is strange that your a is having 50% and b is having ?%.
That makes the whole shading uneven.
If you have 2 layers of 50%, it should follow all the way of the shape. Pillow shade it first, then trim or thicken it as you smoothen the shape.

OTL I'm sorry I'm quite terrible at this D:

I pray that this is a little better D:

Good! Can you see the difference? Of the shape? It is better and smoother.

Of course, now you have to gradually trim the 50% dither. Don't change the positions of all pixels. just...
Either erase that dither completely or make it into other%. use erase to reduce the 50% though.
trace your curve, remember the proportion of A line I mentioned earlier.

Besides, you just reshade one fold right? the one on the right (talking about the centre ones.)not yet shaded? It is ... very jaggy.

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PS~ I think your shade 3 area is very thick. slim it down 1 or 2 pixel.
1 = lightest, 6 darkest.

oh thank goodness D:

I will now work on slimming it down and that jagged area on the right D:

hopefully when I trim, it will bring shade 3 down

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Okay - I trimmed down that part and tried to make the right area less jagged and use less of shade 3

I think you need to trim down the upper part of the fold. As in reduce a layer of 50% and also push back shade 3. and shade 2 should also push upward along.
For the bottom hem, the left one, left curve corner (near the golden trim fall down corner.)have the best shading shape. See how slim 50% was at the top part and increase its area to 3 layers of 50% as it lay near the trim and then slowly slim out to 1 layer of 50%.
(1 layer = 1 pixel width)
Try to immitate that. The straighter the shade, less layer of dither, curver more layers of dither.

Sorry I disappeared - went to my fiance's because I won't see him tomorrow when I go back to Orlando D:

anyway - I tried lessoning the dithering in those places:

Yay! It looks much nicer now!!! The shape is alright now.
You just need to push back or dither in to make shade 3 thinner.
your shade 4, in between the curves, could need some more firming in terms of showing its pointyness, it is suppose to be pointy as it disappear.

OMG YAY FINALLY *DIES* XDD

Okay - I tried to lesson shade 3:

Still not pointy enough.
The disappearing part don't do dithering, just simple shading that shows it getting slimmer to the disappearing point.
Your other darker pointy shade works well. Those are the effect.

Okay - you mean more like this?

- make shade 4 in those places more prominent?

Me ish sleeping. I believe the remaining is simple to change.
You can proceed on others.
*claps*

Your shading could still be improved but I find that current status is fine, not everyone is pixel nazi like xuxu. I find it better to explain with picture, so I better get all my art debt done and do some tutorial about it.

Originally Posted by xuvrette

Me ish sleeping. I believe the remaining is simple to change.
You can proceed on others.
*claps*

Your shading could still be improved but I find that current status is fine, not everyone is pixel nazi like xuxu. I find it better to explain with picture, so I better get all my art debt done and do some tutorial about it.

bahahaha okay - go sleep D:

I'm going to work on it a bit and see if jellys can comment on it *will ping her*

THANK YOUUUUU <3

We post at the same time.

Yes, and... remember the A line I showed you earlier? The huge zoom in redline pic?
straighter slimmer, curver thicker. So, not pointy enough.
As far as I can see, because just now you reduce shade 3, you should also reduce shade 4 while you are at it. XD Which resulting I don't see the need to use dither for shade 4 at that space. Try to have some distance between the dither of shade 2/3 with shade 4.

haha - okay - yeah that shade four was just TOO much them - so I made it less and took some of the dither away - I had no dither and it looked tooo thick...so I added dither XD and I fixed a couple things on the train that were bothering me.