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#51
Old 03-30-2012, 08:48 PM

-wants the menetrek shirts-

SO AWESOME !!

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#52
Old 03-31-2012, 05:41 AM

@Sha - thank you! I really shouldn't have those up there - Jelly said there is a similar item that hasn't been released yet XD So I dont' think they will ever be accepted. It makes me sad - I loved the shirts when I made them XD

Alrighty guys:

Shorts update. I recolored in red just to see if a different palette would change anything. Red is kind of my default palette XD

What do you guys think? Suggestions would be lovely :D


I actually think these look better:
I made the shade 1 and shade 4....less XD


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#53
Old 03-31-2012, 05:58 AM

The shorts are looking good. I just have one little question about them. Is the right side (avatar's left side) of the shorts suppose to look brighter/shinier than the left side (avatar's right side)?

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#54
Old 03-31-2012, 06:02 AM

@BBR - here is how I view the light source:


Sorry I have to draw this - I'm not connecting to the words right and left right now XDDD

But it should be shinier/brighter closer to the arrows and darker further away.

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Old 03-31-2012, 06:04 AM

Yeah, umm, hold on a sec. I didn't explain what I meant very well. So let me show you where I'm referring to.a

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Old 03-31-2012, 06:05 AM

haha okay~! Sorry XD

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#57
Old 03-31-2012, 06:11 AM

It's alright and it's partly my fault.
The second one does look better and what I was talking about isn't as noticeable. Also now that I look at it in paint the bright spot I was wondering about really can't be helped.



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Old 03-31-2012, 06:14 AM

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It's alright and it's partly my fault.
The second one does look better and what I was talking about isn't as noticeable. Also now that I look at it in paint the bright spot I was wondering about really can't be helped.


Oh I see what you are talking about - I tried making it darker but it looks way too dark there XD

But I just went in an took all of shade 1 out of that side - look any better?



And sorry my brain isn't working so well at 2am XD

PS -can I post in your thread yet?

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Old 03-31-2012, 06:20 AM

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Oh I see what you are talking about - I tried making it darker but it looks way too dark there XD

But I just went in an took all of shade 1 out of that side - look any better?



And sorry my brain isn't working so well at 2am XD

PS -can I post in your thread yet?
Yeah, I think that looks better now.

It's alright. I'm kind of half asleep right now myself. Plus for some reason my internet has decided it wants to be a pain and act up. Maybe it's telling me it's time to go to bed, lol.

Yup you can post in my thread.

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#60
Old 03-31-2012, 06:22 AM

lmao maybe it's a sign for both of us to go to bed XDDD *soooo tired* XD

I'm gonna go post there now :D

I'm glad they look better - I think they do - makes it look less contrasty!

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#61
Old 03-31-2012, 06:28 AM

Maybe so. *yawns* XD

Alright.

There is really isn't as much contrast now and there is also enough highlighting and shading with the other shades that it keeps that side from looking flatter than the other.

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Old 03-31-2012, 06:34 AM

Good I'm glad! Now lets see what Xuvvie and Jelly think of it XDD

*falling asleep here* gonna go to sleep. I left a lengthy reply in your thread - hope you don't mind! I wasn't critiquing to be mean - just trying to be helpful :D

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#63
Old 03-31-2012, 06:38 AM

Hopefully they like it.

Alright, I'll check it out tomorrow. I'm too tired to stay up any longer myself. I don't mind being critiqued and I'm sure that it'll be helpful.

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#64
Old 03-31-2012, 06:41 AM

Alrighty - good night BBR :D Hopefully it will be helpful :D

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#65
Old 03-31-2012, 07:33 AM

The lines still rather sharp and bold.
wrinkles are too pointy...
and there is one contradicting point I just notice.
Your short ourtline is very smooth to suggest that many wrinkles/folds on it.

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Old 03-31-2012, 08:20 AM

I'm just dropping in to say that the dress of DOOM (lol) in the collective post at the front is looking so much better now! The folds on the top look nice now :yes: The shading in the skirt looks nice, to me the bottom edge/drape seems a bit stiff and unnatural, but that might be just me. I'd say that a zillion points closer to being finished now :yes:

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#67
Old 03-31-2012, 04:13 PM

That's great news, Jelly!

Maria, I love the cranberry-colored shorts. In my (not) expert opinion, they're looking great!

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Old 03-31-2012, 04:18 PM

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The lines still rather sharp and bold.
wrinkles are too pointy...
and there is one contradicting point I just notice.
Your short ourtline is very smooth to suggest that many wrinkles/folds on it.
That makes sense - I never thought of that! I need to decide if I want that many folds and if so change the outline then....
I'll shade the outline a bit more too!

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I'm just dropping in to say that the dress of DOOM (lol) in the collective post at the front is looking so much better now! The folds on the top look nice now :yes: The shading in the skirt looks nice, to me the bottom edge/drape seems a bit stiff and unnatural, but that might be just me. I'd say that a zillion points closer to being finished now :yes:
OMG REALLY!? That makes me so happy! I named it the Dress of Doom because of the problems it's given me XD I still need to work on the shading on the bottom so it might make the drape better once it's finished to be honest. If it doesn't, then I can always change it :D

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That's great news, Jelly!

Maria, I love the cranberry-colored shorts. In my (not) expert opinion, they're looking great!
I like them better red personally :D But I'm biased and love red so that's just me XD thank you :D

EDIT:

Okay I've updated both the dress and the shorts....

Here are the updated versions:
- dithered the shades at the bottom to make it look more blended and not so harsh. Added just a touch of shade one on the bottom to give it some highlight.

- I took away a bunch of the folds because the lines really didn't call for them (thank you Xuvvie for pointing that out!) I also added some shade four to the lines because it made it look less harsh.

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#69
Old 03-31-2012, 06:11 PM

Now I see the short looks way better, due to it being logical. XD
but then, it does loose some fabricness of material.
the vertical line in the center, could stagger a bit to suggest the fabric's softness?
I don't think in real life, where your shorts clasp together at the 'crotch' area would be straight and wrinkle-less.

what you think?

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Old 03-31-2012, 06:15 PM

@Xuvvie - I'm glad it is looking better in terms of lighting and wrinkles. And I agree! I'll go update the crotch area XD
Have any suggestions for the dress?

EDIT:

Does that look any better at all or do you think it need more?

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#71
Old 03-31-2012, 06:25 PM

*tilts head* Honestly... I see no difference with BARE EYES.
but I am sure the line is not as stagger as I first visionalise it. You may make it more stagger, OR use shadow shades to shade wrinkles from crotch outward.

I personally think in terms of design, the end of the trousers could be better rather than fold over.
*search for pics*

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Old 03-31-2012, 06:27 PM

haha okay - It was subtle changes that I did so I'll attempt more XD

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#73
Old 03-31-2012, 06:29 PM

...I found some shorts design... then I came back... noticing the shorts is on a male base... -_-;;

edit~ By the way, your original version. The wrinkles and folds should not come from the outline.
It should come out from the center, crotch area.
I keep forgetting to tell you last few days
but nevertheless, it comes back to the same comments and suggestion(in sync) I came out with.

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#74
Old 03-31-2012, 07:06 PM

lol sometimes you have to knock me over the head with an idea for me to understand it XD Jelly wanted to see it on a male base and I just never changed it back XD

I changed the folds...took away the one coming from the side and put them coming from the crotch instead and i think it looks a billion times better...



and this is it with a little bit more to it - not sure if it looked too busy:

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#75
Old 03-31-2012, 07:21 PM

You can still darken the wrinkles and makes it more obvious.
looks rather subtle to me, maybe you can try until shade 5(dark). then slowly shade outwards, 4, 3, 2...
or add a few wrinkles at the lower part of the pants, from the center outwards.

 


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