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Old 04-10-2010, 01:18 AM

Also, Magi, I'm going for a small animal, like a squirrel. :3nod:

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:19 AM

I live on Deviant Art.
I tutorial everything.
No luck :(

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:20 AM

Pie: Drawing just takes practice. I don't think anyone can really give you a few pointers and suddenly you're good.

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:21 AM

I've been practicing for three months. D:
You are right though.

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:22 AM

Plat, über cute! You did that do fast I love it!

So my parent said no to giving me the money for a new charger. I don't know how long this will put PM on hold but I'll try to keep you guys updated on the subject as much as I can. My dads solution is just to get a job but it's just not that easy so I'm going to keep trying to get the money from him somehow. And hopefully soon because it really is a pain having to use my iPod to come online. Thank god for wifi and easy to use touchpads!

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:25 AM

Pie: OMG 3 whole months and you're not an expert yet?!

Clearly there's something wrong with your pencils.

Seiki: If I were to lend you 90 dollars, when could you pay me back? <<,, 'Cause I'd like to do that, but I'm also kinda poor myself.

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:25 AM

I use photoshop D:
I don't know D:
I have all the concepts, but sucky execution.
*tries to draw Cami*

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:26 AM

Seiki, would you be able to do chores around the house to get paid?
I clean the house all the time and do yardwork sometimes, so my mom will just give me money from time to time when we're out shopping to pay for my work. And they use to pay my brother and I if we'd mow the lawns and clean the house. lol So you could try to work in a deal like that.

@ Pie - I agree with Cami.
Its not easy to just have someone tell you what to do. You need to learn and teach yourself.

And yes, dA is chalked full of tutorials of every kind.

Now you guys have me wanting to draw! :gonk:
I think i'll go snag my tablet. I need to finish a commission anyway.

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:31 AM

I have good coloring tutorials on DA, but not drawing D:

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:35 AM

Pie: Get a figure book and practice forms.

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:36 AM

It depends on what kind of drawing tutorials you're trying to search up
What are you looking for?

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Seiki Nova View Post
Plat, über cute! You did that do fast I love it!

So my parent said no to giving me the money for a new charger. I don't know how long this will put PM on hold but I'll try to keep you guys updated on the subject as much as I can. My dads solution is just to get a job but it's just not that easy so I'm going to keep trying to get the money from him somehow. And hopefully soon because it really is a pain having to use my iPod to come online. Thank god for wifi and easy to use touchpads!
I was feeling kind of bleh today so I thought I'd do something fun. Glad you like it <'3

I don't know if Cello's looking at you or your necklace though :rofl: Cello's a fashionable kitty X'D Glad you like v///v

Sorry about the charger, though. I know someone at school lost theirs once and since it was probably a digital media student they must have been going insane. x.x Good luck, man D8


When looking for tutorials, I am very specific about what I look for..

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:44 AM

I want to be able to draw any type of person. Preferrably Detailed, as I found a detailed coloring tutorial

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:46 AM

The best way to learn to draw people is to draw them naked first..from life....x.x

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:47 AM

- - -
i am 15.
if i did that my parents would think i am looking at porn.

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:52 AM

I know someone who at 18 had been drawing from life for at least 5 years.

Anywho, good luck with the commission, Su!

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:54 AM

I am going to try and draw.
Wish me luck too!

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Old 04-10-2010, 01:54 AM

Good luck :'o You can look at pictures of people that model for life drawing but have like a swimsuit?

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Old 04-10-2010, 03:32 AM

Pie why is that stuff in your siggy in humango letters.

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Old 04-10-2010, 03:56 AM

For people to notice it

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Old 04-10-2010, 04:33 AM

Cami <3 my parents will give it to me in time. I just have to be patient and wait it out. They'll get tired of me being mopey and give in haha! Thanks for the offer though! I would totally give it back to you but I would never ask that of you or anyone!

Su, I'm already under contract with them to keep the house insanely clean for forever because they're paying for the trip I'm making to Iowa next month anyways. You'd think that an extra hundred dollars wouldn't hurt much right? It's not like they don't have it to give to me. They just kind of want me to go without for a while!

Plattu, I like it! Really. But I think it might be better for you to pm it to me so I don't lose it when I get my computer back haha!

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Old 04-10-2010, 05:10 AM

Thats always irritating. Sounds like something my parents would do.

Best of luck on getting that worked out, though.

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Old 04-10-2010, 05:36 AM

Pie -

Drawing takes a lot of practice. And the more serious you are about it, the better. If you seriously want to learn art then grab yourself pencil and paper and buckle down. It'll be a skill/hobby that will cause you great frustration and even greater freedom.

There are a few good sayings out there. I'm quoting a lot because I'm trying to convey something to you. The bolding is my own.

Quote:
Draw, as much and as often as you can. When drawing lies fallow, the skill diminishes. (Gene Black)

Do not fail, as you go on, to draw something every day, for no matter how little it is, it will be well worth while, and it will do you a world of good. (Cennino Cennini)

Keep a bad drawing until by study you have found out why it is bad. (Robert Henri)

Before you are able to draw, you have to learn to see, and you learn to see by drawing. (Mick Maslen)

We all have at least 100,000 bad drawings inside of us. The sooner we get them out and onto paper, the sooner we'll get to the good ones buried deep within. (unknown)
In three months, you are genuinely not likely to be any better than you were before unless you're taking serious classes and studying under someone directly.

If you're practicing from tutorials - practice what they teach. Don't just read them over and expect to be better for having looked at them.

You may not have the situation to go to life drawing classes with nude models (I haven't and never intend to do it, honestly - I've heard enough stories about nude life drawing sessions to be completely uninterested), but that doesn't mean you can't draw from life. You've got some great things attached to your body.

Draw your hands. Seriously. If you're left-handed, draw your right hand; and the opposite if you're a right-handed person. You can get the life-drawing experience that is genuinely going to help you without having to look at anything that will trouble your parents. Here are some scans I did from a few years ago of my own hand-drawings. HANDSy. I was challenged to draw 100 hands. I think I got to around 80 before I got distracted and stopped. If you look at the numbers, you can see how I progressed from the first hand I drew to the 50th hand I drew. I could see a visible and marked improvement just from doing those practices. I've had fewer problems drawing hands since then.

All I needed was a pencil and paper.

That's really all you need. Photoshop (or Sai or Painter or OpenCanvas or...) won't improve your skills. It'll just give you something new to work with. It's like being given oil paints when you've been working with colored pencils. There are entirely different sets of things to learn. And it's not necessarily worth learning what Photoshop can do for you until you've got at least some of the basics down.

Once you've drawn your 100 hands from life, draw 100 feet. Or 100 pictures of your dog/cat/parakeet/fish. Or go to a public area and draw the people you see there. (If they keep moving on, then draw something else.)*

And don't forget still life drawings. Set yourself up a pile of fruit and draw them. Or draw a handful of thumbtacks or Cheerios. Draw a tree you see in your backyard. Or the birdbath in your front yard. Draw what you see and try to replicate it as close to 100% as possible.

No... This won't make you be able to draw an anime/comic styled drawing right away - but it'll teach you the basics. Give you a foundation. So when you want to draw your comic/manga styled artwork (or invent your own style - whatever), you'll know enough about form and substance to be able to exaggerate or minimize things to keep the essence of something but still be to your tastes. So the mistakes you make are ones you want.

I say all this not because I'm trying to discourage or talk down to you - but because I genuinely want to help you. I don't want you to get the mistaken idea that a program will improve your artwork. Or that three months without improving means you're a bad artist. The programs are just tools. Three months is nothing. And, to me, art is worth all the time I invested in it and made me a more confident person.


*I will note that I haven't done this one yet. I've just heard it recommended to me.

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Old 04-10-2010, 06:45 AM

lol Wow, long post!

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Old 04-10-2010, 06:55 AM

Wow, Seiki.
Your inventory is insane. @[email protected]

 



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